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My Roy/Joe prediction.
When the fight was made there was heavy talk about Joe fighting Pavlik after his victory. This was a big fight building up and I just knew that Roy couldn't possibly win a close decision - it would hurt a big event for boxing. Now that Kelly is out of the equation and Joe is saying the gloves will be hung after this bout; there will be no gift decisions imo.
So now I ask: Even at this stage of Jones' career, does Joe, without the possibility of a gift for a super-fight, really outbox Roy Jones Jr.? Roy seems to be interested in a big Hopkins fight now. Do the judges favor Roy over Joe now that something big for boxing follows a Jones win, where as nothing at all follows a Calzaghe win?
This is just my view on the politics of boxing which we all know can be very crooked - this is something I don't think we've thought about enough. I'd like to know what you guys think on this? Is it something to worry about or no?
Now.. to the actual fight.
I personally don't see how Roy LOSES this fight. But I said the same thing about Bernard, lol. I think what Bernard did though, was show that Joe can very easily be out boxed.. but you need to mount some kind of offense as well. If roy fights a similar fight to the one Bernard fought but with a higher punch output, he wins handily IMO.
And this is what I predict. I can't see Joe contending with Roy even today and obviously I can be very very wrong. I don't see joe knocking him out.. and I don't see Roy being an idiot and taking any rounds off. If Joe were to win, it would be via Split Decision, and I don't think he can win a Split Decision at the brink of Jones/Hopkins 2.
I see the fight going as follows.
First few rounds are very slow. Both men look respectful, Joe is trying to mount a rhythm and get comfortable. Joe begins to loosen up from round 4 on up and keeps Roy shelled on the ropes for the majority of the fight. Joe has alot of holes in his defense when flurrying and roy will take advantage of these, possibly scoring a KD for a few more pts in one of the mid rounds and winning a UD.
I see Roy making Joe pay for every sloppy flurry he throws and eventually it makes Joe very respectful. It may slow down his punch output infact, and allow Roy to work a little more from the center of the ring. Roy wins on counter punches Alone in this fight IMO. When on the ropes, he works his way back into the center and outboxes joe there. That's how i see the fight everytime I picture it >.<
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
Well I hope your right but if Roy comes in not in some type of top form he will eventually either go back into the ropes and try to survive or if he realizes it earlier may go all out and try to finish it in which case Joe only has to bide his time and make Roy come forwards and keep him moving.
The fight will eventually go the other way if this occurs.
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
Roy has never been the type of fighter to stand toe to toe with anybody so I think its safe to say he is not going to out fight Joe.
At this stage of his life he does not have the legs or sharpness to pick Joe off with big shots all fight long.He fights for less than a minute a round.
I think it will be a good fight with Joe being to busy for Roy and with Jones going backwards for most of the fight landing the odd good shot now and then.
Calzaghe to win on point.
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
Jones way well win the first 3 or 4 rounds imo, but I think at this stage of his career he won't be able to keep pace for 36 mins and JC will probably win on work rate. Hope it's a great fight.
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
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Originally Posted by
tysonbruno
Roy to win KO round 1;D
LOL.
Could you imagine the reaction?
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
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Originally Posted by
tysonbruno
Roy to win KO round 1;D
:oYou have to be joking,or be on drugs,or both.:o
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
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Originally Posted by
porkypara
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Originally Posted by
tysonbruno
Roy to win KO round 1;D
:oYou have to be joking,or be on drugs,or both.:o
Im joking but christ it would be funny in here sunday morning if it did happen LOL;D
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
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Originally Posted by
tysonbruno
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Originally Posted by
porkypara
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Originally Posted by
tysonbruno
Roy to win KO round 1;D
:oYou have to be joking,or be on drugs,or both.:o
Im joking but christ it would be funny in here sunday morning if it did happen LOL;D
Well I dont think I would call it funny but I know what you mean.
When Joe went down against Hopkins the whole of Wales held its breath in shock.LOL
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
A lot depends on the judges, and whether they favor effective aggression over winging punches. After watching the Calzaghe - Hopkins fight, and others, I get the impresion that judges often have a hard time telling whether or not punches make effective contact.
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
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Originally Posted by
intoccabile
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Originally Posted by
tysonbruno
Roy to win KO round 1;D
LOL.
Could you imagine the reaction?
I can imagine mine - I'd have to change underwear ;D
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
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Originally Posted by
bcollins
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Originally Posted by
intoccabile
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Originally Posted by
tysonbruno
Roy to win KO round 1;D
LOL.
Could you imagine the reaction?
I can imagine mine - I'd have to change underwear ;D
LOL;D it would be great
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
Roy's only chance is to take chances, let it all hang out, and hurt Joe bad with his straight right early. That punch is going to be there for him, just like it was for Hopkins, but he's going to need to stun him with the right and clean it up with the hook. Hopkins didn't really throw the cleanup hook - he pot-shotted in and out with the right. Jones is going to need to stay in the pocket long enough to get off 2 or 3 punch combos before he moves. It's his only shot, because that's the only way he's going to damage Calzaghe.
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
I think its safe to say its going twelve, Roy hasnt stopped anyone in six years, and Calzaghe well i still dont think he is a light heavyweight, i think Roy is to long in the tooth Calzaghe will win this comfortably in 12.
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I think its one of those where anything could happen.
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Jones chin will fall short and he is going to get knocked the puck out.
Calzlappy in 8
:lickish:
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
Im looking for Jones to pull off the upset here.
Roy needs to get Joe's attention early with thudding right hand leads anywhere they can find a home. Make Joe think just a little about throwing the busy flurries that only expose him.
I think if Roy can give Joe a moment of pause in the first 3 by letting his hands fly a little harder, he puts a big dent in Calzaghe's pitter- patter- points- plan.
I also think Roy is plenty quick at 39, and plenty crafty yet. I thought he did a fine job starting the rebuilding of himself after his losses, and although I thought Tito looked too small in their fight, Roy danced and boxed and thudded beautifully. Looked fantastic in fact.
Im picking Jones Jr to win the decision here.
I think we might finally see genuine concern, with some wonderment sprinkled in, on the face of Joe in the first few rounds. Roy's gonna be like nothing he's tangled with.
Now then. Im a big Calzaghe fan, too. Part of me would like nothing more to see him retire undefeated. And although you hear alot of talk about how old Roy is, or how long in the tooth and detiorated he is, I still give Joe props for fighting him in his farewell bout. If I was Joe, I could think of alot of easier final fights than RJJ.
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
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Originally Posted by
intoccabile
I don't see how Roy LOSES this fight.
I can't see Joe contending with Roy.
I don't see joe knocking him out.
I don't see Roy being an idiot and taking any rounds off..
I see Roy making Joe pay.
Should have gone to Specsavers
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
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Originally Posted by
intoccabile
I think what Bernard did though, was show that Joe can very easily be out boxed.
Right, yet he couldnt but he could with Pavlik, hmm, the plot thickens eh;D
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F*ck me, Joe can still throw lighting combinations!!
There is deffinitly power there too, you can hear it though the pad, he must just tone it down in the ring for fear of hurting his hands.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGOyyz4fZCg
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ross
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intoccabile
I think what Bernard did though, was show that Joe can very easily be out boxed.
Right, yet he couldnt but he could with Pavlik, hmm, the plot thickens eh;D
Noticed I pointed out workrate is key too.
Bernard without any real offense got a split decision on just defense alone, lol.
If Jones fought a simular fight with the addition of more punches, we have a winner.
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
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Originally Posted by
ross
F*ck me, Joe can still throw lighting combinations!!
There is deffinitly power there too, you can hear it though the pad, he must just tone it down in the ring for fear of hurting his hands.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yGOyyz4fZCg
Enzo does most of the work....
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Anyone else notice how small Roy looks next to Joe?
His fists are smaller and his head is tiny!!
http://www.braggingrightscorner.com/...esla092308.jpg
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
Joe in round 6. As Joe has stated he's gonna pick and sit down on his punches rather than throw flurries.
Jones legs look really shaky in the openning 2 rounds and if Joe hasn't taken him out by then, then it will be around the 6th.
Jones just doesn't have the movement to keep out of harms way for long enough and his chin is not there anymore.
Could be reminiscant of Lennox vs Tyson.
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WelshDevilRob
Joe in round 6. As Joe has stated he's gonna pick and sit down on his punches rather than throw flurries.
Jones legs look really shaky in the openning 2 rounds and if Joe hasn't taken him out by then, then it will be around the 6th.
Jones just doesn't have the movement to keep out of harms way for long enough and his chin is not there anymore.
Could be reminiscant of Lennox vs Tyson.
His chin isn't there? He took a clean left hook from Trinidad who hits significantly harder then Joe.
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
Here's how I see it, If Roy fights, and can sustain it for 12 rounds Calzaghe loses this. Roy is too fast, his punches are straighter and he is the better boxer. That being said I think he will likely get his clock cleaned. Roy will mostly likely not be able to keep up with Calzaghe's work rate, and he will either get stopped or lose a lopsided division.
Not only is he not Hopkins, he doens't have Hopkin's ability to not get hit cleanly off the ropes. Roy does have good defense, but the problem is he waits for his opponent to finish throwing their punches instead of countering. Old Roy would have countered Calzaghe into oblivion, and then come forward and knock him out. But this version of Roy will sit there and when Calzaghe is done throwing his combinations he will look to counter, but Joe will have already widened the distance.
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shame i havent got half an hour today but will look forwad to watching it tommorw
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Holy shit Roy's hands are still so fast. Joe throws combinations in a way anybody could be fast, he doesn't bring his hands back after punches, and he doesn't put a lot behind them. Individually his punches aren't crisp whereas Roy not only is throwing crisp punches where each one lands solidly, but he also throwing them much faster. Its incredible.
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
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Originally Posted by
WelshDevilRob
Joe in round 6. As Joe has stated he's gonna pick and sit down on his punches rather than throw flurries.
Jones legs look really shaky in the openning 2 rounds and if Joe hasn't taken him out by then, then it will be around the 6th.
Jones just doesn't have the movement to keep out of harms way for long enough and his chin is not there anymore.
Could be reminiscant of Lennox vs Tyson.
I doubt Tyson was never(even if he reached his potential) anywhere near as good as Roy is. And Calzaghe doens't not only have the power Lennox had, but he isn't as good as Lennox was.
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
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Originally Posted by
tysonbruno
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Originally Posted by
porkypara
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Originally Posted by
tysonbruno
Roy to win KO round 1;D
:oYou have to be joking,or be on drugs,or both.:o
Im joking but christ it would be funny in here sunday morning if it did happen LOL;D
i would be posting from saturday night til sunday afternoon if that happened;D
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Re: My Roy/Joe prediction.
Who are the betting lines picking as underdog?
