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Fighter of Year Right Now?
Fans are starting to talk about “Fighter of the Year.” I think Pavlik blew his shot against Bernard Hopkins who blew his against Calzaghe. Antonio Margorito’s name has been prominent. “The Tijuana Tornado” did a number on the rugged Miguel Cotto and Kermit Cintron. And then, of course, there is Manny Pacquiao who has won two big ones so far this year. In the unlikely event he whips Oscar in December, he becomes a slam dunk for the award in my opinion.
If Calzaghe becomes a true “Legend Killer” by beating both Hopkins and Jones in 2008, he becomes bona fide contender, but if Jones beats both Joe and Tito Trinidad in the same year, well, who knows what might happen when the ballots are cast?
But wait, what about Vic “The Raging Bull” Darchinyan, who has fought three times this year showing tremendous improvement with new discipline and focus.
Antonio might well get it, but if I were casting a vote TODAY, it would go to the “Raging Bull” out of Australia by way of Armenia.
Who would you vote for-today?
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Tough one. If Pac beats ODH, it's got to be him. As it stands right now, I'd probably go with either Margarito, Calzaghe, or Hopkins.
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CFH
Tough one. If Pac beats ODH, it's got to be him. As it stands right now, I'd probably go with either Margarito, Calzaghe, or Hopkins.
Pac def gets it if he beats Oscar. If Calzaghe beats Jones that's also pretty sweet year on paper. Hopkins has a loss to Calzaghe even if people think he won. A loss is still a loss and Fighter of the Year needs to be winning that year. Hopkins def wins performance of the year though.
Margarito is fighter of the year at this point though. Pac and Calzaghe need wins to pass him.
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Pacman if he beats Oscar.
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Well Vic the Vulture does deserve mention, IMO he should have got the nod against Gorres. Thats 3 good wins in 08 for Vic the prick.
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Don't count out ODLH, he could just give it to himself if he beats Pac.....
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hopkins for me unless manny wins then its both of them
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No Contest
Well Vic the Vulture does deserve mention, IMO he should have got the nod against Gorres. Thats 3 good wins in 08 for Vic the prick.
Yep; it's no contest!:foruml10gc5:
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Hopkins? with one win over a guy two weight classes below him gets fighter of the year? That would be a shame. Much props to him for taking care of Pavlik, but seriously, not that much..
Vic is definate candidate. Don't forget the people Mijares took out before stepping through the ropes with Vic.
Marg hasn't been active enough to earn this IMO.
Pacman takes it away by longshot with a win, and Calz is next if Pac loses.
But let's wait and see if Steve Forbes can get another fight in before the end of the year and shake up the SWW division..
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The problem for the Raging Bull is he had a draw earlier in the year. That blemish will probably keep him from getting the nod even though it was close and against a quality fighter.
If Pac beats De La Hoya, it goes to him hands down. Winning the Ring championship at 130 versus Marquez, then winning a title in his 5th weight class, then beating a bigger man two weight classes up...couldn't argue with that. Three wins between 130-147 pounds.
If Pac loses, I think it will go to Margarito or Calzaghe (if he beats Jones). Jones would have an outside shot with a win.
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if pac wins then its him.
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ClubberLang
The problem for the Raging Bull is he had a draw earlier in the year. That blemish will probably keep him from getting the nod even though it was close and against a quality fighter.
If Pac beats De La Hoya, it goes to him hands down. Winning the Ring championship at 130 versus Marquez, then winning a title in his 5th weight class, then beating a bigger man two weight classes up...couldn't argue with that. Three wins between 130-147 pounds.
If Pac loses, I think it will go to Margarito or Calzaghe (if he beats Jones). Jones would have an outside shot with a win.
It really wasn't that close I'd say vic won by 2-3 rounds, and they didnt score a knockdown, that would have given him the SD.
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ClubberLang
The problem for the Raging Bull is he had a draw earlier in the year. That blemish will probably keep him from getting the nod even though it was close and against a quality fighter.
If Pac beats De La Hoya, it goes to him hands down. Winning the Ring championship at 130 versus Marquez, then winning a title in his 5th weight class, then beating a bigger man two weight classes up...couldn't argue with that. Three wins between 130-147 pounds.
If Pac loses, I think it will go to Margarito or Calzaghe (if he beats Jones). Jones would have an outside shot with a win.
It really wasn't that close I'd say vic won by 2-3 rounds, and they didnt score a knockdown, that would have given him the SD.
There were some close rounds in there, IMO, but in any case I'm thinking along the lines of which way most voters and publications will think and I doubt they pick someone who had a blemish on his record within the year.
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No Contest
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ClubberLang
The problem for the Raging Bull is he had a draw earlier in the year. That blemish will probably keep him from getting the nod even though it was close and against a quality fighter.
If Pac beats De La Hoya, it goes to him hands down. Winning the Ring championship at 130 versus Marquez, then winning a title in his 5th weight class, then beating a bigger man two weight classes up...couldn't argue with that. Three wins between 130-147 pounds.
If Pac loses, I think it will go to Margarito or Calzaghe (if he beats Jones). Jones would have an outside shot with a win.
It really wasn't that close I'd say vic won by 2-3 rounds, and they didnt score a knockdown, that would have given him the SD.
There were some close rounds in there, IMO, but in any case I'm thinking along the lines of which way most voters and publications will think and I doubt they pick someone who had a blemish on his record within the year.
The latest is the greatest!
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6. Wladimir Klitschko
5. Vic Darchinyan
4. Juan Manuel Lopez (if he wins)
3. Chad Dawson
2. Joe Calzaghe (if he wins)
1. Manny Pacquiao (if he wins)
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Close call for me,I have to go with Margarito based on the decisive nature of his to huge wins but real shame no match to end the year on.
Vic is interesting,although I don't care for him his last two were very one sided against top competition ??But the draw can be looked at as a blemish OR yet another match against top ten fighters on even terms?Hmm
Manny off of one sided dusting but almost everyone had the feeling Diaz was keeping that belt warm for Manny's coronation at light and very few gave Diaz a shot. At the risk of throwing matches,Marquez kept him on even terms IMo and Pac nicked a one point fight...to some.His carnival with DLH has yet to happen
Hopkins,No.Calzaghe,No....Dawson is on the cusp of doing huge things I believe,09 will be huge year.Imo....maybe lower p4p entrant should he continue improvements.
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as of today it is hopkins
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ClubberLang
The problem for the Raging Bull is he had a draw earlier in the year. That blemish will probably keep him from getting the nod even though it was close and against a quality fighter.
If Pac beats De La Hoya, it goes to him hands down. Winning the Ring championship at 130 versus Marquez, then winning a title in his 5th weight class, then beating a bigger man two weight classes up...couldn't argue with that. Three wins between 130-147 pounds.
If Pac loses, I think it will go to Margarito or Calzaghe (if he beats Jones). Jones would have an outside shot with a win.
I see alot of "IFs." Margarito has it right now. IF Pacquiao wins, then he takes it, HANDS DOWN. IF Pacquiao loses and Calzaghe wins, then it's between Margarito and Calzaghe. But IF Pacquiao loses and Roy Jones wins, then he's gotta be up there. Then he will have had victories over Trinidad and an undefeated Calzaghe.
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As it stands Margarito but if Pac man wins you have to give it to him
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Right now at this very moment, it's probably Margarito.
If Pac beats Oscar, then it'll be Pac, no doubt.
If Pac loses and Joe wins, then it'll be Joe.
If Pac loses and Joe loses, then it'll be Margarito.
If a nuclear bomb explodes and Billy Dib is the only human left alive on the entire planet, then Billy Dib will win Fighter of the Year.
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SweetPea
Right now at this very moment, it's probably Margarito.
If Pac beats Oscar, then it'll be Pac, no doubt.
If Pac loses and Joe wins, then it'll be Joe.
If Pac loses and Joe loses, then it'll be Margarito.
If a nuclear bomb explodes and Billy Dib is the only human left alive on the entire planet, then Billy Dib will win Fighter of the Year.
That's hilarious!
I beg to differ though. If Billy Dib were to survive, the yearly honor would be discontinued.
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No Contest
Don't count out ODLH, he could just give it to himself if he beats Pac.....
Oscar is so good at manipulating people that he would probably manage to award himself even if he lost against Pac. Or even create a new category of "The guy who challenges the P4P champions of the year" award.
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LOL very good;D Oscar has changed alot over the years i used to really like him
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mrodub
LOL very good;D Oscar has changed alot over the years i used to really like him
I am an Oscar fan myself but I can't give him credit for having fought Forbes and Pacquiao back to back. I understand that because of his always wanting to fight the best he gets to have a break this time but he really is making this fight with Pacquiao seem like his greatest challenge. Maybe even his most dangerous opponent. But if you ask me, Pacquiao is the one in danger, not Oscar.
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SweetPea
Right now at this very moment, it's probably Margarito.
If Pac beats Oscar, then it'll be Pac, no doubt.
If Pac loses and Joe wins, then it'll be Joe.
If Pac loses and Joe loses, then it'll be Margarito.
If a nuclear bomb explodes and Billy Dib is the only human left alive on the entire planet, then Billy Dib will win Fighter of the Year.
Organov?
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Might be Calzaghe if he wins against Jones..
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JT Rock
Might be Calzaghe if he wins against Jones..
Probably should be, as he will forever be known as "The Legend Killer."
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JT Rock
Might be Calzaghe if he wins against Jones..
Probably should be, as he will forever be known as "The Legend Killer."
how is he known as the legend killer, he barley won a SD against 43 yr old hopkins. and i doubt he can ko roy.
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I'd say Hopkins. I'm no fan of him but he put on a masterful display and I think he deserves the credit, he was a joy to watch for once. Awful to see Kelly get beat like that though I'm a big fan of him and he will bounce back.
Close second is Margarito
Vitali deserves a mention too for his performance after such a long lay off.
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JT Rock
Might be Calzaghe if he wins against Jones..
Probably should be, as he will forever be known as "The Legend Killer."
how is he known as the legend killer, he barley won a SD against 43 yr old hopkins. and i doubt he can ko roy.
He BARELY beat Hopkins and calls himself a "legend killer." If he beats Jones he'll ram that down our throats. He SHOULD be called the "grandpa mauler." JONES PLEASE BEAT HIM!
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I believe the question was "right now", so all the "if" statements about Pac and Calzaghe aren't relevant.
Right now, Nard Hopkins gets my vote. The vulture destroying Mijares wasn't as great as a 43 yr old putting on a clinic against a heavily favored world champ.
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Right now i say Tony Margarito with his wins over Cintron and Cotto.
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I go Margarito, Juanma and Vic 3rd
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THE THIRD MAN
I go Margarito, Juanma and Vic 3rd
Wow. Juanma. Forgot about him. Good one.
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THE THIRD MAN
I go Margarito, Juanma and Vic 3rd
Wow. Juanma. Forgot about him. Good one.
I love Juanma, he is my fave at the moment but Margarito deserves to be fighter of the year in 2008.
And you have to give credit to Vic, i have been a harsh critic but he has answered critics the best way known and that is to KO good opponents and to unify any title in any divsion puts him into the top 3 for this year IMO.
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THE THIRD MAN
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THE THIRD MAN
I go Margarito, Juanma and Vic 3rd
Wow. Juanma. Forgot about him. Good one.
I love Juanma, he is my fave at the moment but Margarito deserves to be fighter of the year in 2008.
And you have to give credit to Vic, i have been a harsh critic but he has answered critics the best way known and that is to KO good opponents and to unify any title in any divsion puts him into the top 3 for this year IMO.
Solid post, mate!
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Joy or Roy depending on who wins and and how they win.
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It's Joe unless Manny does the impossible.