Roy Jones is going to win!

Ive said it, this is how i feel. I have a feeling hes going to pull it out and shock everyone. I can feel it. So anyone and everyone who wants to brag if im wrong, use this thread against me...i dont care. Roy Jones fan from the beginning and to the end bitches! Yall must of forgot but dont worry Roy hasnt and hes going to use everything hes got and beat calzaghe down! Bhop knocked calzaghe down with a straight right, roy gonna do that all night. The anticipation is killing me, i just wanna see this fight!

haha me too obviously i want JC to smash him up but theres a small part of me that can't help thinking Jones will be well up for this and it's his last roll of the dice.
Just get a little feeling this is gonna be an absolute classic and Jones could pull out some magic:-\
Hope i'm wrong but...........anyway we shall see soon enough and yeah i'm getting rather excited about this one:cool:

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haha me too obviously i want JC to smash him up but theres a small part of me that can't help thinking Jones will be well up for this and it's his last roll of the dice.
Just get a little feeling this is gonna be an absolute classic and Jones could pull out some magic:-\
Hope i'm wrong but...........anyway we shall see soon enough and yeah i'm getting rather excited about this one:cool:

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I think Joe will win this convincingly, but I am anxious about the first four rounds. Calzaghe had to work hard in the early going of both his fights with Kessler and Hopkins, and Jones is going to be ready to try and chafe Joe with that lightning right of his. Jones can still pop if he sets himself up right. Joe should learn from the Hopkins experience and just exercise a little caution early on, and then as the fight goes on he can start to loosen up and let the workrate show through.

I rewatched Jones against Tito last night, and I had a difficult time coming up with reasons that Roy will have a shot based on that performance. You never know, but basing the prediction off of their last two respective performances, it's hard to see Jones winning.

If RJJ had the power he used to have and the speed he used to have he'd whip Joe's ass but Roy has been caught a couple times, he's been hurt even more recently, he is gunshy and you can't be that way with a guy who throws like Calzaghe.....Roy is going to have to be like Hopkins and be a trickier fighter not reliant on talent alone, but on his Ring IQ.

Jones messed up his body moving to heavy and the impact coming back down has had a negative effect. Jones in his prime v Calzaghe would have been a different fight but at this stage Jones does not have enough left. Calzaghe will throw too many punches and I think we will see Roy kept pretty much on the defensive apart from some flashes of the old Jones. It will be exciting in small bursts but I expect Joe to win either on points or by late stoppage.

I must admit though the saying that 'Every great fighter on the way down has one great fight left in him' is in the back of my mind... Jones would have to roll back the years though and it's a SLIm chance.

No win fight for Joe - if he wins they will say he beat a shot fighter if he loses he lost to has been. I just wonder if Jones gets a dodgy points decsion to set up a money spinning rematch in Wales ;)

A word on Jones in his prime (forget the calibre of some of his opponents he was a perfect blend of a boxer ina punchers body - a great fighter who would have competed (if not beaten) the best around his natural weight. He probably wont be appreciated until after he's retired.

Just cant see this version of Jones having enough all round ... he will struggle with the pace JC sets ... Joe is no Tito he is a strong fast and hard guy at super mid/light heavy .. they are facts ..

And though he has been knocked down before can anyone really say yes Ive seen JC hurt bad .... Yet the same question re Jones brings a deffo answer of yes ... I also think the years are catching up on Jones now and the up and down weight divisions cant have helped and I for one think he is looking old now ...

And as for pulling one last big un off Joe will throw everything in this fight because he aint gonna blow it in what may well be his last fight.

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If RJJ had the power he used to have and the speed he used to have he'd whip Joe's ass but Roy has been caught a couple times, he's been hurt even more recently, he is gunshy and you can't be that way with a guy who throws like Calzaghe.....Roy is going to have to be like Hopkins and be a trickier fighter not reliant on talent alone, but on his Ring IQ.

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I think Calzaghe wins this more than likely, but Jones showed some smarts against Hanshaw. I wonder why Jones is so KO hesitant, but I hope he's able to open up more against Joe. If it goes the distance I don't see Roy winning a decision.

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If RJJ had the power he used to have and the speed he used to have he'd whip Joe's ass but Roy has been caught a couple times, he's been hurt even more recently, he is gunshy and you can't be that way with a guy who throws like Calzaghe.....Roy is going to have to be like Hopkins and be a trickier fighter not reliant on talent alone, but on his Ring IQ.

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I think Calzaghe wins this more than likely, but Jones showed some smarts against Hanshaw. I wonder why Jones is so KO hesitant, but I hope he's able to open up more against Joe. If it goes the distance I don't see Roy winning a decision.

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Since being KO'd I honestly believe he (RJJ) is a little gun shy these days much to his own detriment..

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If RJJ had the power he used to have and the speed he used to have he'd whip Joe's ass but Roy has been caught a couple times, he's been hurt even more recently, he is gunshy and you can't be that way with a guy who throws like Calzaghe.....Roy is going to have to be like Hopkins and be a trickier fighter not reliant on talent alone, but on his Ring IQ.

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I think Calzaghe wins this more than likely, but Jones showed some smarts against Hanshaw. I wonder why Jones is so KO hesitant, but I hope he's able to open up more against Joe. If it goes the distance I don't see Roy winning a decision.

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His two KO loses are the reason - 9 times out of 10 to go for the KO you have to put yourself in a place where you be KO'd. Jones does not want to go there. He could have finished Tito early but played safe - can't do that against Calzaghe or he will win by a big points difference.

Jones built his style on doing everything wrong and got away with it because of his amazing reflexes and speed. The problem is these fighters reach a certain stage where the reflexes have slowed a little and the things they did wrong and got away with are punished.

The Dark Side is with you Roy , apply the sword to Calzaghe.

Now now Al taking a sword in there is cheating beyond even what B-Hop did .. but it will give RJJ an even chance at least lol...:fighting0040mf3:

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I wonder how many people pulling for Roy will give Calzaghe any credit when he wins and wins in a totally dominating fashion.

I've been saying this all along, if Roy comes to fight he will win, if he is there just to survive 12 rounds he won't, I don't think CAlzaghe will be hitting Roy cleanly, He might surprised me, but I haven't seen anybody even Glen Johnson or Antonio Tarver land a whole lot of clean punches. So I think Roy will be able to survive the whole fight, but I don't think he can win because of the mentality he has shown lately. He says that he wants to stand right in front of Calzaghe I think this is the right think to do, force Calzaghe to box, Roy won't be able to out brawl Calzaghe so the only chance he has is to outbox Calzaghe which I think he can do IF he throws punches.

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Originally Posted by Markusdarkus

I wonder how many people pulling for Roy will give Calzaghe any credit when he wins and wins in a totally dominating fashion.

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He's expected to be dominated though... Did people give Mayweather credit for dominating Zab Judah or Carlos Baldomir? Very few. I think people are seeing that 5% chance that will allow Roy to win. Is that 5% chance worth giving Joe Calzaghe any credit for taking this fight or what he will do in it? I think not. I mean if he is able to tag Roy with every punch and get him out of there, will he get credit, I think he deserves a little, but not like the credit he got from me for beating Kessler the way he did ,and for the close fight with Hopkins.

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Originally Posted by Markusdarkus

I wonder how many people pulling for Roy will give Calzaghe any credit when he wins and wins in a totally dominating fashion.

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I'm a big Jones fan but I don't give him much of a shot. Joe is coming over here which means he KNOWS he needs to win convincingly... Furthermore, I can't see this version of Roy Jones hurting Joe.

Roy 7 years ago would have been a beast agains Joe.

All you Calzaghe whiners always bitch about him not getting respect. He has it. Most people are picking Joe... I, as a big Jones fan am also picking joe...

As I've said before the only group that outdoes the Calzaghe haters are the Calzaghe preachers...

If you look at who Roy fought recently how the hell can he say he was setting it up for Calzaghe. I watched the Tito fight this morning on demand and I kept saying to myself Tito is not even close to what he once was. Throw Prince Bada and Hanshaw in the mix who at times gave Jones trouble you must say who the hell on the top level has he beaten since Ruiz if you consider that top level. Jones is still quick but it will take alot more than quickness in there Saturday and more then lead right hands.Call me crazy I think Joe with his high output could even stop Roy late in the fight.

I hope so C'MON ROY!;D

no he won't. I was supremely confident in that even before Teddy Atlas picked him to win.

Teddy Atlas and Bernard Hopkins are picking Roy to win... interesting.

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If you look at who Roy fought recently how the hell can he say he was setting it up for Calzaghe. I watched the Tito fight this morning on demand and I kept saying to myself Tito is not even close to what he once was. Throw Prince Bada and Hanshaw in the mix who at times gave Jones trouble you must say who the hell on the top level has he beaten since Ruiz if you consider that top level. Jones is still quick but it will take alot more than quickness in there Saturday and more then lead right hands.Call me crazy I think Joe with his high output could even stop Roy late in the fight.

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Tito looked way better then he did against Winky Wright or Ricardo Mayorga. He didn't get down on himself. I know Joe is likely going to win, but don't take away from the Jones-Trinidad fight, Trinidad looked better than he had in years. Who did Roy beat? Antonio Tarver the first time they fought, by wide decision IMO.

If by interesting you mean the kiss of death for Roy then yes.

Teddy hasn't picked a fight right since ever.

Teddy picked Zab over Floyd.

Teddy picked Tony Thompson over Wlad.

If ever anyone needs a refutation of an argument that only people who have boxed really know the sport then there are only two words necessary: Teddy fucking Atlas.

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Originally Posted by Markusdarkus

I wonder how many people pulling for Roy will give Calzaghe any credit when he wins and wins in a totally dominating fashion.

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I'm a big Jones fan but I don't give him much of a shot. Joe is coming over here which means he KNOWS he needs to win convincingly... Furthermore, I can't see this version of Roy Jones hurting Joe.

Roy 7 years ago would have been a beast agains Joe.

All you Calzaghe whiners always bitch about him not getting respect. He has it. Most people are picking Joe... I, as a big Jones fan am also picking joe...

As I've said before the only group that outdoes the Calzaghe haters are the Calzaghe preachers...

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Seen as Pavlik has been exposed for what he is i think this fight has become appealing. Jones showed enough against Tito that suggested he still has his speed and power and would even at this stage obliterate a Pavlik and be competitive with the best at 175.

Who else was Calzaghe going to fight?

I don't know who's gonna win but roy jones has a decent shot.....if not it's silly that joe is even fighting him in the first place, as much as roy is being degraded i don't see how calzaghe fans can expect much of a change in opinion of him for beating up some old man who didn't have a chance in the first place.

Since i picked pavlik over hopkins, i'll pick jones over calzaghe to even it out.

i am gonna base it on history, RJJ been knocked out twicw & calzaghe aint been knocked out. regardless of who they fought joe never tasted defeat either.

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Originally Posted by snakey

Ive said it, this is how i feel. I have a feeling hes going to pull it out and shock everyone. I can feel it. So anyone and everyone who wants to brag if im wrong, use this thread against me...i dont care. Roy Jones fan from the beginning and to the end bitches! Yall must of forgot but dont worry Roy hasnt and hes going to use everything hes got and beat calzaghe down! Bhop knocked calzaghe down with a straight right, roy gonna do that all night. The anticipation is killing me, i just wanna see this fight!

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Can't see it.

Maybe if Calzaghe freezes?

Or perhaps he's already hanging his gloves up?

REally can't see it but you never know.

Share your excitement though.

Can't wait. Can't wait.

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Originally Posted by snakey

Ive said it, this is how i feel. I have a feeling hes going to pull it out and shock everyone. I can feel it. So anyone and everyone who wants to brag if im wrong, use this thread against me...i dont care. Roy Jones fan from the beginning and to the end bitches! Yall must of forgot but dont worry Roy hasnt and hes going to use everything hes got and beat calzaghe down! Bhop knocked calzaghe down with a straight right, roy gonna do that all night. The anticipation is killing me, i just wanna see this fight!

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I'm with you bro. Hope you're right. You know Jones can do it...it's just whether he has enough left. Let's go Roy!

dont think i ever seen so many different threads for a fight before on this site, funny cos when fight was first announced everyone was dissin it, now looks like eberyone is on board

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Originally Posted by Markusdarkus

I wonder how many people pulling for Roy will give Calzaghe any credit when he wins and wins in a totally dominating fashion.

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I'm a big Jones fan but I don't give him much of a shot. Joe is coming over here which means he KNOWS he needs to win convincingly... Furthermore, I can't see this version of Roy Jones hurting Joe.

Roy 7 years ago would have been a beast agains Joe.

All you Calzaghe whiners always bitch about him not getting respect. He has it. Most people are picking Joe... I, as a big Jones fan am also picking joe...

As I've said before the only group that outdoes the Calzaghe haters are the Calzaghe preachers...

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Seen as Pavlik has been exposed for what he is i think this fight has become appealing. Jones showed enough against Tito that suggested he still has his speed and power and would even at this stage obliterate a Pavlik and be competitive with the best at 175.

Who else was Calzaghe going to fight?

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Chad Dawson, Glen Johnson, rematch with Bernard Hopkins? All three are very tough fights for him. I think Glen Johnson would really surprise him.

ESPN - Dan Rafael Blog

This is what Bernard said, it didn't seem like he was just a bitter old man, he seemed to have valid reasons why Roy is going to win, but I disagree with him taking more chances personally. I also disagree with him saying Roy is slower then Calzaghe, at least in handspeed, I think Calzaghe might move faster in terms of constant footspeed, but Roy is a little faster(and a lot faster when they actually punch hard) in terms of handspeed.

WOOOOOOT!!!! go ROY 2 more days LETS GET IT!!!!!!!!!!!:)

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ESPN - Dan Rafael Blog

This is what Bernard said, it didn't seem like he was just a bitter old man, he seemed to have valid reasons why Roy is going to win, but I disagree with him taking more chances personally. I also disagree with him saying Roy is slower then Calzaghe, at least in handspeed, I think Calzaghe might move faster in terms of constant footspeed, but Roy is a little faster(and a lot faster when they actually punch hard) in terms of handspeed.

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I agree with Nard 100% except for the speed,you can see when both guys hit the mitts Roy is sharper, fluid and more compact.. Not to mention Roy is great with his punch selection as well, I think Jones will invest to the body early as well as uppercut and lead right... Roy will try to stay out of range and make Joe reach, which will screw with his balance since he is awkward and unorthodox, when he is off balance Roy will counter.. when in the center of the Ring look for ROy to blast the lead right.. If Joe drives him into the ropes look for Roy to lean to the side and dig the piss out of Joe's body and fire uppercuts, meanwhile Joe will pitter patter Roy and he will pay for it

I'm not a huge fan of either guy.Roy is not what he was and in his last three fights at a big championship feel level...he has been hit,hurt, & a bit hesitant.His stamina is measured,his reflexes slowed and his willingness/ability to stand inside and deliver is a question.He is now Mortal.I just can not get away from thinking Calzaghe wins this on attrition,work rate and backs Jones,working his legs much.I know Calzaghe may flurrie like my younger niece but I think he might even stop Roy?

If not,I'll be here to be laughed at and congratulate him :fight:;D.....and waiting for the rematch that has taken 15 + years with Hopkins.

I just got finished watching the last 24/7 and Im convinced now more than ever Roy is going to win, I like Joe alot and Team Calzaghe are great down to earth people.. Roy is focused training hard and will be the one throwing punches of substance, instead of volume..

To me this is a real test for Joe and his style, Roy is the real McCoy for crisp punching and speed.. His punches will really hurt Calzaghe, Joe has never been raked by a guy like Jones, nor has he seen that kind of speed, I hope Joe tightens up that defense, because Jones is gonna hurt him bad through the leaks..

Also dont know how true this is since I saw it on espn chat, but I guess james Toney went on record to predict a Jones victory as well as Hopkins.

i looked back at the hopkins jones fight and it looked closer than i thought originally. i had hopkins winning.

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i looked back at the hopkins jones fight and it looked closer than i thought originally. i had hopkins winning.

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I watched it again recently as well, I had Hopkins winning by a point.

All i want to say is yes he got KO'd by Tarver and Johnson but lets not forget this is Roy Jones guys and as i said in another thread Holyfield was KO'd by Bowe heavily then he looked horrible against Bobby Czyz everyone feared for his health vs Tyson and look what happened and what he went on to achieve after the Tyson fight. So i wouldn't write Roy Jones off C'MON Roy!;);D

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I just got finished watching the last 24/7 and Im convinced now more than ever Roy is going to win, I like Joe alot and Team Calzaghe are great down to earth people.. Roy is focused training hard and will be the one throwing punches of substance, instead of volume..

To me this is a real test for Joe and his style, Roy is the real McCoy for crisp punching and speed.. His punches will really hurt Calzaghe, Joe has never been raked by a guy like Jones, nor has he seen that kind of speed, I hope Joe tightens up that defense, because Jones is gonna hurt him bad through the leaks..

Also dont know how true this is since I saw it on espn chat, but I guess james Toney went on record to predict a Jones victory as well as Hopkins.

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Is that the same James Toney that said Calzaghe wasn't good enough to share a ring with Lacy?

:beat: (the wanker smiley is for Toney not you JT ;D)

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All i want to say is yes he got KO'd by Tarver and Johnson but lets not forget this is Roy Jones guys and as i said in another thread Holyfield was KO'd by Bowe heavily then he looked horrible against Bobby Czyz everyone feared for his health vs Tyson and look what happened and what he went on to achieve after the Tyson fight. So i wouldn't write Roy Jones off C'MON Roy!;);D

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thats why we so excited cos we cant say 4 sure

i hope RJJ is at the best he can possibly be for this fight

its gonna be a war;D