Should he retire or perhaps have one more fight vs Chad Dawson or rematch Hopkins or even fight Froch any of these fights in wales would be a good way to go or should he just retire.
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Should he retire or perhaps have one more fight vs Chad Dawson or rematch Hopkins or even fight Froch any of these fights in wales would be a good way to go or should he just retire.
What's the point of fighting Froch or Dawson, is he really gonna get credit? Short of beating a Prime Muhammad Ali, some people will never believe
So who would you have him fighting in his last fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Yeah i think he should retire, like he said last night there's always going to be one more up and comer to face, look at how R. Jones ended up, he could have retired at 50-1 instead it's 52-5:confused:
Only 1 fight that makes any sense and that's Hopkins. But if JC won Hopkins would just be 'Old' again until he destroys somebosy in the next fight after Joe lolQuote:
Originally Posted by tysonbrunoSo who would you have him fighting in his last fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
The Hopkins that fought Pavlik would be Joe's hardest fight ever by a mile.
I would love to see the RematchQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HOnly 1 fight that makes any sense and that's Hopkins. But if JC won Hopkins would just be 'Old' again until he destroys somebosy in the next fight after Joe lolQuote:
Originally Posted by tysonbrunoSo who would you have him fighting in his last fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
The Hopkins that fought Pavlik would be Joe's hardest fight ever by a mile.
I wouldn't!! I would if I were neutral ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by tysonbrunoI would love to see the RematchQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HOnly 1 fight that makes any sense and that's Hopkins. But if JC won Hopkins would just be 'Old' again until he destroys somebosy in the next fight after Joe lolQuote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
The Hopkins that fought Pavlik would be Joe's hardest fight ever by a mile.
But the Hopkind who fought Pavlic would not be allowed the same one dimentional more static and weaker opponent in front of him .. he would have JC which is a different opposition altogether ... simply put, Hopkins wasnt and would never be allowed to fight the same fight he did with Pav against JC..Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HOnly 1 fight that makes any sense and that's Hopkins. But if JC won Hopkins would just be 'Old' again until he destroys somebosy in the next fight after Joe lolQuote:
Originally Posted by tysonbrunoSo who would you have him fighting in his last fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
The Hopkins that fought Pavlik would be Joe's hardest fight ever by a mile.
:badass::badass::badass:
I agree to an extent, but being honest I still think B-Hop was a different animal right from the off against PavlikQuote:
Originally Posted by bambamdaddioBut the Hopkind who fought Pavlic would not be allowed the same one dimentional more static and weaker opponent in front of him .. he would have JC which is a different opposition altogether ... simply put, Hopkins wasnt and would never be allowed to fight the same fight he did with Pav against JC..Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HOnly 1 fight that makes any sense and that's Hopkins. But if JC won Hopkins would just be 'Old' again until he destroys somebosy in the next fight after Joe lolQuote:
Originally Posted by tysonbruno
The Hopkins that fought Pavlik would be Joe's hardest fight ever by a mile.
:badass::badass::badass:
Nah....why? Only if he is insecure about loosing the '0'.His offense appeared a bit slower last night but that may have been consciousness for Roy's still potent right hand.Dawson would be a good go.
He has 1-2 good fights left in him for next year, he should fight Dawson and Froch in Wales.
Fighting and beating Hopkins again is pointless. Yes Hopkins looked great againsed Pavlik but for every punch he threw he had nothing coming back, Joe throws 10 for every one you hit him with, that's why Hopkins was so tired and had him resorting to pretending to get hit low, he hates the pace.
I would love for jc to keep fighting but not because he has something to prove or something but because I like to see him fight. The people that still doubt him are never going to stop doubting him so don't keep on fighting to prove something. Like I would love for him to take on dawson, but just to see the fight because he isn't going to prove anything with a win because out of the woodwork would they come "oh dawson was still a bit to green. dawson got "beat" by an old man in glenn". So I say joe should keep going if he still feels it otherwise hang em up with his 0 intact, cause his detractors won't give him respect even if he was to beat dawson, froch and hopkins again in a string.
I say retire. I think he loses motivation with every passing month.
If he does carry on then there's only Hopkins, and in Wales. One thing about Joe last night is that he looked more comfortable at the weight than against Hop, especially on his footwork which seemed less lethargic. He also looked much stronger than he did against Kessler, and stood down on a (very) few of his punches showing that some of the power is still there when he chooses to use it, maybe he would more if he were really pressed.
he should go out as now 46-0 !
Bang on mate ,Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HOnly 1 fight that makes any sense and that's Hopkins. But if JC won Hopkins would just be 'Old' again until he destroys somebosy in the next fight after Joe lolQuote:
Originally Posted by tysonbrunoSo who would you have him fighting in his last fight?Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
The Hopkins that fought Pavlik would be Joe's hardest fight ever by a mile.
Im all out of rep sorry. Apparently you can blow all your rep out of the sack over a twenty four hour period! (not seen that sign come up before ).
I disagree about Hopkins being the toughest test, I really think Dawson is the toughest test out there. But he'll get more credit for beating Hopkins I guess.
I do hope that either Bernard or Joe does fight Chad Dawson though.
I'm not a Dawson fan but it's clear this kid is the new young lion who has beaten Adamek, Johnson and Tarver is quick measure. I'd like to see him have the chance for a proper passing of the guard and to fight maybe the winner of Hopkins Calzaghe 2 if it happened.
But I also have to say, I didn't think the first Hopkins Calzaghe fight was controversial, I thought Joe was clearly pulling away at the end and won a close but completely fair decision win.
Exactly mate Daswon and Froch are nowhere near any ones top 10 p4p, whats the point it will just be another bull shit lacy Kessler esc reaction from tha haters. Dawson is still not regarded as a great fighter Froch what the fuck has he done?Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Hmmmm, good point actually, we would get the "overhyped" or "never tested" thing all over again if Joe beat either. UnfortunatelyQuote:
Originally Posted by skel1983Exactly mate Daswon and Froch are nowhere near any ones top 10 p4p, whats the point it will just be another bull shit lacy Kessler esc reaction from tha haters. Dawson is still not regarded as a great fighter Froch what the fuck has he done?Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Im guessing the americans on here will build up chad dawson through the roof and claim Calzaghe is ducking him if he doesnt fight him.
Fact remains joe would beat chad dawson with ease and wouldnt even need half the performance he put in last night to get the job done.
I voted NO because i genuinely believe there is easy money for JC to still be had over in the states for easy fights!!
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Originally Posted by skel1983Exactly mate Daswon and Froch are nowhere near any ones top 10 p4p, whats the point it will just be another bull shit lacy Kessler esc reaction from tha haters. Dawson is still not regarded as a great fighter Froch what the fuck has he done?Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Dawson is most definitely knocking on the door for being a top 10 p4p star. Floyd Mayweather has called him the best p4p fighter in the world right now. He wins over Tomasz Adamek, who is now a cruiserweight champ, Glen Johnson and Antonio Tarver.
The ring rankings only go up to 10 but I gurantee if they did a top 20 Dawson is going to be in the top 15 right now.
He's certainly as highly regarded as Pavlik and Kessler, you don't beat successively guys like Johnson, Tarver and Adamek and not be one of the worlds best fighters.
Dawson is on the cusp of being a huge star.
I think he should retire BUT i think he is a bigger name now than he has ever been so the big money is here for the taking and his popularity and ticket draw is prob bigger than hattons...
and if it was me it would be too hard to walk away from all that.
so i see another big fight in America for the $$$
or a big fight in Wales for the fans and alittle less $$$
but if he goes on too long he might just age overnight and then all the "I TOLD YOU SO GUYS" will be stating he was never any good ;)
So Retire Happy Joe, would be my advice 8)
I'd go for Marciano's record if i were him..Dawson,Wright,Tarver and maybe Froch
he could get that all done in maybe 2 years and still pull it off i reckon.
He has always gone on about his legacy and he WILL fight at least one more then he'll be 3 away and earning silly money.
I'd love too see him go down as one of the greates to have ever graced the ring;)
I see the same thing in dawson as mayweather does. He may be untested but he has the tools to be great.
i wouldn't i think that record is cursed :-XQuote:
Originally Posted by smashup