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Hope this clears that up for you guys he was off balance and the shot went over his head! don't get me wrong if he was off balance against a bigger heavy with better reach that shot may have connected.
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Hope this clears that up for you guys he was off balance and the shot went over his head! don't get me wrong if he was off balance against a bigger heavy with better reach that shot may have connected.
i dont see what difference it makes either way , Haye won , does it make him better or worse if Monte knocked him down ?
answer is NO.
Haye may get slaughtered by a big hitter , but its gunna be a good exciting fight.
To me it looks like his forearm hit the forehead of Haye which knocked him down. A better reach would have done nothing, he just tried to duck under a punch when he was not even close to balanced and as a result got clipped/knocked back while doing it.
People thought it was a legit knock down?!... :confused:
Barrett should have been disqualified for that. Haye seemed a bit groggy when he got up.. ultimately it led to Barrett's demise.
Yep, Haye was pretty much set on the ground when Barrett decided to make that swing. Lucky to get away with a point deduction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Yeah, Haye's hands were behind his back on the canvas.. you see fighters hit when down all the time but some are much worse than others.. that was a blatant cheat.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesYep, Haye was pretty much set on the ground when Barrett decided to make that swing. Lucky to get away with a point deduction.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
This is coming from someone who hope haye does well but he wont beat the klitschkos but anyway back to what i was going to say. If you say he should of been dqed for that then Barrett should of won ;) Because haye did that to him on an earlier knock down in the corner, hit him when he was clearly on the ground. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Fair enough.. what knockdown was it? (i can't remember)Quote:
Originally Posted by snakeyThis is coming from someone who hope haye does well but he wont beat the klitschkos but anyway back to what i was going to say. If you say he should of been dqed for that then Barrett should of won ;) Because haye did that to him on an earlier knock down in the corner, hit him when he was clearly on the ground. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
It can't be as blatant as this one. This was a Roy-Griffin job.
Im not sure which one it was, he went down in the corner and barrett was down and i think he got with another left hand. I saw it on the replay of the knockdown, it wasnt as blatant but still hitting someone when there down still isnt good no matter how blatant it is. Still just goes to show even with that cheap shot, barrett still couldnt hurt haye.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterFair enough.. what knockdown was it? (i can't remember)Quote:
Originally Posted by snakeyThis is coming from someone who hope haye does well but he wont beat the klitschkos but anyway back to what i was going to say. If you say he should of been dqed for that then Barrett should of won ;) Because haye did that to him on an earlier knock down in the corner, hit him when he was clearly on the ground. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
It can't be as blatant as this one. This was a Roy-Griffin job.
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Originally Posted by AdamGB
loooks like the haye haters were out in their numbers and were clutching at straws :-\
Oh Haye was hurt, he took a knee after getting up from that shot as well!!
Steve Bunce is an idiot, he tells bare faced blatant lies, after the fight he was trying to make us belive that Barrett was quick;D
Haye doesnt know how to avoid being hit and any heavy with a bit of speed will clip him, they dont even have to be a big hitter, Haye is there for the taking, Barrett has gone down tons of times and was sparked in 2 last year by cliff couser, big deal, does Haye take anotehr heavy fight or sit around waiting for his chance?
I think he may be a little put off after feeling some strength and a very little bit of power;D
Haye should fight Skelton, hes up in the rankings.
Haye could of looked to get Barrett DQ'ed for that shot but i give him credit for getting up and stopping him soon after
it wasnt that shot that hurt him . it was the cheap shot that barrett landed when Haye was down . and anyways he was more pissed off than angry cuz he got up and afew seconds later put Barrett out for the countQuote:
Originally Posted by ross
cheap shot by Barret but Haye threw his own, especially the KD that came from him holding Barret with his right hand to smack him in the head with the left hook, so it pretty much balances out, either way, nobody better call me a Haye Hater :rolleyes: cause i couldn't give a shit less of the HW division, on that note, Taylor didn't look too shabby last night, and well Lacey although made a good effort, should hang em up
He took a knee because he'd just been palmed in the face by an illegal shot... he was entitled to recover from it to negate it's affects.... so he did. Why wouldn't he?Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Worst thing about the shot was he was kneeling and leaning back... absorbed the full force of it, it's not like he could twist and ride the punch, was 100% static
I'm not complaining about it....Haye talked enough shit to deserve being treated like that, especially if he thinks winning vs Monte means anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
The knockdown/slip doesn't matter, what matters is that Monte Barrett was able to connect in the fight with some wild power punches without using angles or footwork...that does not bode well for Haye as the BEST heavyweights control the ring using size, agility, and accurate power punches which would keep Haye out of the fight bar his "Hayemakers" which when he misses leave him wide open.
I want to see how Haye does vs the next level of competition before I really consider his chances vs the title holders
Both guys threw shots that i'm sure i've seen guys dq'd for this year. But i'm glad no-one was. they were trying hard and there was some rough stuff going on but FFS it's a heavyweight fight!!! The right guy won in the end so thankfully the ref didn't make that decision for us. Or make the wrong one for us.
That really is juvenile mate. If Barrett was the one sitting on the canvas with his hands behind his back, and Haye was doing the hitting, i would have said Haye deserves to be disqualified. ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleI'm not complaining about it....Haye talked enough shit to deserve being treated like that, especially if he thinks winning vs Monte means anything.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
The knockdown/slip doesn't matter, what matters is that Monte Barrett was able to connect in the fight with some wild power punches without using angles or footwork...that does not bode well for Haye as the BEST heavyweights control the ring using size, agility, and accurate power punches which would keep Haye out of the fight bar his "Hayemakers" which when he misses leave him wide open.
I want to see how Haye does vs the next level of competition before I really consider his chances vs the title holders
I didn't see Barrett connect with hardly anything let alone "wild power punches".. if he did Haye would have been knocked out.
Whatever, it's not like Haye got injured by Monte's punching him while he was down. I don't blame him for doing throwing the punch though...it's not the first or last time it will happen and not all times were penalized or DQ'd. Marciano vs Walcott was one of them and that happened when Joe was out cold and being held up by the ropes alone.
Barrett doesn't have big time power he did connect at times and as I said without angles or anything. The only punch that hurt Haye was the one where Haye was already down.