tell me what you guys think feel free to leave comments ok?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQBxrSzZthw
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tell me what you guys think feel free to leave comments ok?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QQBxrSzZthw
So your basically saying what everyone is saying. De La Hoya isn't the old De La Hoya, the fact that Forbes got through and landed alot of clean shots doesn't bode well for ODLH. Forbes has no power compared to Pacman. I think ODLH has to win by k.o. to save face, he is picking a fighter that just recently moved up, and was still 2 division below ODLH.
People are being dumb saying Oscar isn't the old oscar, remember how Gatti landed a ton of a hard shots on Oscar? How easily Mosley landed in their first fight? IMO Oscar is harder to hit now, and though he doesn't throw as much, or quite as hard, he is still very fast, and he still has his reflexes. FIghting a really good counter puncher like Forbes who is as fast as you will mean you will be hit, but its really hard when a guy like Forbes is hard to hit cleanly, and he can handle anyone's punch.
I just don't see how Manny can win this match. I think Manny's got the clear advantage in handspeed and stamina even though ODLH's hands are still fast, but that's it. Oscar's smarter, MUCH bigger, MUCH taller, has better defense, has a SERIOUS left hook which Manny has shown he still really has no defense for. All of this BS about Oscar's shoulder and Manny's beating up big guys in sparring is just to sell the fight. Somehow these guys have to make this fight seem more competitive than it truly is. Sometimes, I think people want to believe anything just for the sake of a big fight.
Come on people, as a boxing community, are you guys serious? Just for one second, don't look at any of the hype surrounding the fight or anything, honestly, tell me one way that Pacquiao can beat ODLH. I'm not bashing anybody, I just wanna see what yall are thinking.
Man, if Manny Pacquiao wins, I will be happy as hell but I still won't believe it even if I saw it with my own eyes.
I hate the damn hype for this fight!!! It's just going to make Oscar's victory seem all the more grand than it really is. Oscar's fighting a much smaller man! I don't care how much hype anyone (including Oscar himself and his hype machinery) piles on.
People are going on and on about how Pac actually has a chance to win. Why?!?!? Again, nothing would please me more. But it's not gonna happen. Oscar may even KO Pac, which is something Oscar hasn't done in a long time. And he's gonna come off looking like some sort of hero, when he ISN'T!! Why doesn't he fight Margarito? Or someone else that can actually kick his ass?
I have refused to watch even a SINGLE episode of DLH-Pac 24/7. It's just not worth the hype. Will I watch? Yeah, probably... and in the process help make DLH richer. But it will be in the desperate and sick hope that somehow lightning will strike and Pac will knock Oscar on his a$$$$.
And if it sounds like I'm pissed off, it's probably because I am.
Myself and the rest of the heathens have very litttle influence on those artistes that ODLH decide are going to serenade the fight itself.......or at least what ODLH does within the community. If god says.....eh eh.
breath, breath, take your time :lolhaha:
he holds his hands up and pretend he know how to fight :lolhaha: this guy stands up he'll be exhausted already :LOLATYOU:
that was a great vid of/from moono :D
did u get so mad that u had to make a vid ;D
typical immaturity has to talk negative on things that doesnt has to do with boxing, because he does not know boxing.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
Hey,props for putting up the vid with an honest opinion But personaly,I can not wait for this 'event' to be done with :greedy:
That was funny;D
i watched it again, its even funnier the second time :lolhaha:
How is that dumb? He is nowhere near as fast as he used to be. Your in denial if you think he is as fast as he used to be....Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Oscar is still fast man did you watch the forbes fight? the reason oscar couldnt take forbes or floyd jr out is because they are fast like pernell whitaker they are elusive.Quote:
Originally Posted by No ContestHow is that dumb? He is nowhere near as fast as he used to be. Your in denial if you think he is as fast as he used to be....Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Oscar is 2 times faster then manny pacquiao and it will show with the 8 oz gloves.
Here's a video on who people were picking to win the Dream Match... It's a broad range of opinion from casual boxing fans, hard core boxing fans, boxing writers and boxing personalities...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pO0MoCJaLq0
BTW, thanks for your vid Mr. Moono...
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my thoughts excatly. nice hair moono. :pointlol::LOLATYOU:Quote:
Originally Posted by LEGION
that was funny. i guess pac had you so mad youll do anything to irritate anybody. pls try to make sense man. you keep repeating your words.
Oscar in 2.
I hate this carnie farce fight and would beat it with a shovel if I could but I'm seeing Oscar wipe the floor with Super-mighty-Pac ???
I guess the real reason that I'm gonna lose my shit on Dec 6th when Oscar wins is because HBO, ESPN, and all the major sites are gonna pretend like Oscar did something great. I couldn't even watch Larry Merchant's hypocritical ass interview ODLH after the win. You're gonna hear stuff like "turn back the clock" and blah blah blah. IT'S HYPOCRISY!!! I wonder what types of things will be said. I can guarantee you that yall won't see official weights going into the ring because Oscar will probably be a middleweight. I wonder what they're gonna be talking about when they throw up the screen with the height/weight/reach stats. They'll probably try to move through that as fast as possible. It's a con job.
What's funny to me is that a month or so ago as B-Hop was whooping the crap out of Kelly Pavlik, both Larry Merchant and Jim Lampley shifted focus from the master class B-Hop was giving during the PPV to talk about why Pavlik even needed to take that fight. They were saying there's no reason to move up, this was a stupid decision, and it was just all about the money. There were saying that nobody wanted that fight. WHAT?!?!?!
But they have no problem hyping ODLH/Pac which is the biggest PPV mismatch since Mayweather-Gatti? A fight that nobody asked for?
This is the hypocrisy that I'm talking about. You know how I know this is a mismatch. On Saddo, whenever ODLH is involved in a fight, you have the ODLH fans come out talking trash. For this fight, it's eerily quiet. It's because they know what we all know.
Well I guess this sucks but at least Pac's getting paid, nobody said he had to make the fight but for that money, could you blame him?
Moono u dont know that much either look at this vid of oscar highlightsQuote:
Originally Posted by Moonotypical immaturity has to talk negative on things that doesnt has to do with boxing, because he does not know boxing.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doSXJCS3B7U
look at his stance he is kinda open for jabs and can be tagged by pacs straight left if his defense isnt tight which it is not because oscar takes quite a few punches.
i still want oscar to win too but saying pac has no chance is STUPID everybody has a chance in the ring.
Oscar UD.
Too big and too stong for the little man.
Pacs biggest and only advantages are speed and stamina....at best............actually, when you think about it, we dont know how fast Pac will be at this weght, and we dont know if he can keep his intensity for 12 rounds with the added weight.
The only way Pac wins is if their is a problem with Oscar. This meaning basically Oscar needs to be the worst possible version of himself weve ever seen for Manny to have a chance. There have been times in the last couple weeks were I started to buy into the hype but when the smoke clears we are talking about a great small fighter fighting a great bigger fighter.
Who would favor Juan Manuel Marquez over Shane Mosley? Tell me that. As ridiculous as it sounds, its the same thing.
Manny pacquiao being knocked down by a journeyman
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=39C1fAmpi0M
remeber this ;D
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
how much did you loose man?....hehheheh eat your words....are you thinking?>>>>>>>>>hehehhe hahahha hhaha go manny mabuhay!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! !!!!!!!!!!!!! next hatton!!!!! bring it on!!!!!!!
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Originally Posted by albsur2006
Yeahhh you are right ....its a mismatch!!!!!!!! oscar was murdered for 8 rounds!!!!!!!!what money?>>>>both fighters are already filthy rich!!!!!!!...it honor man !!!!!honor!!! MMMMMMMMMMMMMAAAAAAAAAAAAAAABUUUUUUUUUHAAAAYYYY!