Has Pacquiao developped into the classic counter puncher?
With the performance he had tonight, can guys like Cotto beat him? I still think Margarito would just because he is too hard to hurt, but I don't see how Cotto could stop Pacquiao's left hand from landing, and I definitely see Pacman hurting Cotto. I don't think people realized that Pacquiao's was always fighting very quick counter-punchers like Barrera, Marquez, Morales. Who are not only extremely quick compared to welterweights, but like all great warriors they punch in retaliation to being punched immediately. I see Pacquiao having a field day with a few of the guys at the top of the WW circle, I mean guys like Clottey, Cotto, and even Mosley I think are either too flat footed, or not quick enough on the trigger to catch Pacquiao, Oscar was having a hard time fighting Manny, because Manny has quick reflexes and footspeed when Oscar tried to retaliate Manny wasn't there, I think people give him way less credit defensively than he deserved against JMM and against Morales in their first two fights. I see Pacquiao moving around then throwing that left too quickly for almost anyone in the division to react to.
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Manny Pacquiao is so fast,...
He can attack and counterpunch at the same time. ;D
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Manny Pacquiao is so fast,...
He can attack and counterpunch at the same time. ;D
all along people just thought its an attack. people still can't realize our pacmans fighting secrets ;D
I remember people woudl say bruce lee kicks and punch you but his so fast you only saw him kicking. Same thing with pac ;D
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Oscar wasnt throwing shit and was just standing there. Cotto is a massive body puncher and as somebody said in another thread that Pacs 2 ko loses were from body shots ;). so i cant see him beating cotto especially since he wont be eating as much shots as Oscar did.
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Um anyone would look a Counter puncher if the fighter just stands there like a punching bag.
Pacman fights old fighters! let him fight someone who actually moves and has speed and power and a pulse.
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Um anyone would look a Counter puncher if the fighter just stands there like a punching bag.
Pacman fights old fighters! let him fight someone who actually moves and has speed and power and a pulse.
The same punchbag you was so confident would smash Manny Pacquiao, and you even bet £500 on it. I don't know about you guys but i smell a huge hypocrite here.
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Um anyone would look a Counter puncher if the fighter just stands there like a punching bag.
Pacman fights old fighters! let him fight someone who actually moves and has speed and power and a pulse.
wow.. now you're calling dlh a corpse? you just said the day before the fight that pac cant touch dlh now he is old and no speed, no power no pulse. pls get out of this forum man. your meds are calling you!
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Um anyone would look a Counter puncher if the fighter just stands there like a punching bag.
Pacman fights old fighters! let him fight someone who actually moves and has speed and power and a pulse.
The same punchbag you was so confident would smash Manny Pacquiao, and you even bet £500 on it. I don't know about you guys but i smell a huge hypocrite here.
Dude Oscar was shot! he got old he drained himself. It is no Secret Manny is a great human being and a kinda hearted humble man, I have nothing against him as a person...we are talking boxing here and in Boxing he has never fought a guy who was in his primes!
He feeds on slow old fighters.
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Um anyone would look a Counter puncher if the fighter just stands there like a punching bag.
Pacman fights old fighters! let him fight someone who actually moves and has speed and power and a pulse.
The same punchbag you was so confident would smash Manny Pacquiao, and you even bet £500 on it. I don't know about you guys but i smell a huge hypocrite here.
Dude Oscar was shot! he got old he drained himself. It is no Secret Manny is a great human being and a kinda hearted humble man, I have nothing against him as a person...we are talking boxing here and in Boxing he has never fought a guy who was in his primes!
He feeds on slow old fighters.
wat about JMM :confused: hes #2 p4p right now stupid. and at first u were all over Oscars nuts saying that he would DESTROY pac and now ur saying hes shot. fuk u
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The same punchbag you was so confident would smash Manny Pacquiao, and you even bet £500 on it. I don't know about you guys but i smell a huge hypocrite here.
Dude Oscar was shot! he got old he drained himself. It is no Secret Manny is a great human being and a kinda hearted humble man, I have nothing against him as a person...we are talking boxing here and in Boxing he has never fought a guy who was in his primes!
He feeds on slow old fighters.
wat about JMM :confused: hes #2 p4p right now stupid. and at first u were all over Oscars nuts saying that he would DESTROY pac and now ur saying hes shot. fuk u
And JMM beat pacman both times!
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Moono
Um anyone would look a Counter puncher if the fighter just stands there like a punching bag.
Pacman fights old fighters! let him fight someone who actually moves and has speed and power and a pulse.
The same punchbag you was so confident would smash Manny Pacquiao, and you even bet £500 on it. I don't know about you guys but i smell a huge hypocrite here.
Dude Oscar was shot! he got old he drained himself. It is no Secret Manny is a great human being and a kinda hearted humble man, I have nothing against him as a person...we are talking boxing here and in Boxing he has never fought a guy who was in his primes!
He feeds on slow old fighters.
Would it be okay guys if I would request you all to neg rep Moono? LAst time I told people about neg repping he was given positive rep by lefty coz it was just wrong for me to ask him to be neg repped.
Now that he is clearly showing his hate over Pac we are justified in giving him neg reps.:cool:
My series of neg reps on him will start as of today.
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Moono
Dude Oscar was shot! he got old he drained himself. It is no Secret Manny is a great human being and a kinda hearted humble man, I have nothing against him as a person...we are talking boxing here and in Boxing he has never fought a guy who was in his primes!
He feeds on slow old fighters.
wat about JMM :confused: hes #2 p4p right now stupid. and at first u were all over Oscars nuts saying that he would DESTROY pac and now ur saying hes shot. fuk u
And JMM beat pacman both times!
well on paper Pac won. and is #1 p4p wether u like it or not and im almost 100% sure that he will be fighter of the year.
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Moono
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The same punchbag you was so confident would smash Manny Pacquiao, and you even bet £500 on it. I don't know about you guys but i smell a huge hypocrite here.
Dude Oscar was shot! he got old he drained himself. It is no Secret Manny is a great human being and a kinda hearted humble man, I have nothing against him as a person...we are talking boxing here and in Boxing he has never fought a guy who was in his primes!
He feeds on slow old fighters.
Would it be okay guys if I would request you all to neg rep Moono? LAst time I told people about neg repping he was given positive rep by lefty coz it was just wrong for me to ask him to be neg repped.
Now that he is clearly showing his hate over Pac we are justified in giving him neg reps.:cool:
My series of neg reps on him will start as of today.
why even bother? so you neg rep someone who has a different opinion to you? the funny thing is your filipino and then only reason you want people to neg rep me is cause you do not agree what I said about your idol.
very pathetic if you ask me if you get affected by someone who is a differing opinion
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You know what Moono? I have been here in saddo longer than you and have been debating with people but I usually don't go into neg repping. I just can't take your hating on Pac. Talk with sense and I will positive rep even if we have a different opinion on that. Talk with unexplained hate and I will definitely neg rep you even if it's not pacquaio.:cool:
Hope you get what I mean.
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You know what Moono? I have been here in saddo longer than you and have been debating with people but I usually don't go into neg repping. I just can't take your hating on Pac. Talk with sense and I will positive rep even if we have a different opinion on that. Talk with unexplained hate and I will definitely neg rep you even if it's not pacquaio.:cool:
Hope you get what I mean.
Listen maybe you need to step outside and breath some fresh air then?
And Hate on pac? what hate? I just happen to not think he is superior to Calzaghe everyone has their opinion.
but you are biased.
how about you just put me on ignore then instead of acting like a hurt girl and crying for everyone to neg me cause you dont like my opinion.
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Moono
Dude Oscar was shot! he got old he drained himself. It is no Secret Manny is a great human being and a kinda hearted humble man, I have nothing against him as a person...we are talking boxing here and in Boxing he has never fought a guy who was in his primes!
He feeds on slow old fighters.
Would it be okay guys if I would request you all to neg rep Moono? LAst time I told people about neg repping he was given positive rep by lefty coz it was just wrong for me to ask him to be neg repped.
Now that he is clearly showing his hate over Pac we are justified in giving him neg reps.:cool:
My series of neg reps on him will start as of today.
why even bother? so you neg rep someone who has a different opinion to you? the funny thing is your filipino and then only reason you want people to neg rep me is cause you do not agree what I said about your idol.
very pathetic if you ask me if you get affected by someone who is a differing opinion
uhhh youre sounding a lil lost huh? everybody's opinion about pac dlh fight was all the same after the fight. except you. you were probably busy getting an enema that you missed the fight. i think everybody neg repped you coz of your foolish opinion. you said pac is gonna get smashed, thats fine coz it was your prediction. fight is over and pac won convincingly with stoppage too and still you are making excuses. well.. thats my opinion too.. whether you like it or not!
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Moono
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ICB
The same punchbag you was so confident would smash Manny Pacquiao, and you even bet £500 on it. I don't know about you guys but i smell a huge hypocrite here.
Dude Oscar was shot! he got old he drained himself. It is no Secret Manny is a great human being and a kinda hearted humble man, I have nothing against him as a person...we are talking boxing here and in Boxing he has never fought a guy who was in his primes!
He feeds on slow old fighters.
Would it be okay guys if I would request you all to neg rep Moono? LAst time I told people about neg repping he was given positive rep by lefty coz it was just wrong for me to ask him to be neg repped.
Now that he is clearly showing his hate over Pac we are justified in giving him neg reps.:cool:
My series of neg reps on him will start as of today.
He'll be getting neg rep from me this time. His comments are retarded and bias.
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Look i am not happy Oscar lost but my god mono just stop for the love of god it is just crazy what you are saying maybe he might of gotten old and maybe the weight thing like Roy Jones Jr killed Oscar Dela Hoya making the weight but it does not matter he lost and that is all to be said about it and i am sure you complaining and bringing up stuff that has nothing to do with the fight wont bring your money back so please stop it already boring to listen to you because you talk and nothing good comes from it.
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Oscar wasnt throwing shit and was just standing there. Cotto is a massive body puncher and as somebody said in another thread that Pacs 2 ko loses were from body shots ;). so i cant see him beating cotto especially since he wont be eating as much shots as Oscar did.
And Cotto has been knocked down how many times? Even by Demarcus Corley? For Pacquiao it was at 112 pounds, thats 30 pounds ago for him, when has that happened recently? Also Oscar couldn't get close to Pacquiao because Pacquiao is way too light and quick on his feet, no way can Cotto get Pacquiao on the ropes.
Also which one of them is wide open defensively? Not Pacquiao, not anymore. Cotto is wide open for the left hand if its ever thrown, Judah hardly threw it with conviction, but we saw the damage it did early, but Pacquiao will follow it up. I am not even sure if the Pacquiao from tonight faced Tony if Tony could find him in the ring. IMO Tony is like Pavlik, he's great if your slow, but I saw him against Paul Williams and it was mainly the foot speed that trouble Margarito, hell even Cotto's footspeed was giving him problems, and Cotto is very slow on his feet.
