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He is such a humble guy, who in the past when other commentators have commented on him getting knocked out, he just shrugged it off, but I was little confused why he was comparing himself to Wladimir on Saturday with their performances against Rahman. I mean he is one of the greatest heavyweights EVER, there is no comparison, but Lennox seemed to bring it up a fair bit, and he has given a lot more credit to much worse fighters than Wladimir. I was surprised by that.
I was also surprised. That was out of character; him pointing out why he did a better job against Rahman then Klitschko.
It was probably due to the fact that Rahman did KO Lennox and I know that it never sat well with LL...Even though LL evened the score with Rahman it still burns him that someone on Hasim's level could ever have KO'd him...the Lennox-Rahman 2 fight was how the first one should have gone and Lennox was/is completly embarrased by the loss to HR...I think his comments were more due to Lennox' bruised ego than anything...He still is a class guy...
It's just natural for any person to throw out there achievments out there every once in a while, not matter how humble he might appear, especially someone who is very competitive.
Hey I'm a humble guy and every once in a while I even have to admit how good looking I am...just normal.
I didn't mind it and everyone knows how much of a fan I am of Wladimir. I really thought Lennox wanted Wladimir to show more than he did, I felt the same way.
I just want Wlad to get back to fighting in a more "guns a blazin" way like he used to....I don't mind him winning or how he wins but I would rather see the big time KO's of earlier in his career rather than the more cautious style he has now. I think he's at a point in his career where he should be compared to guys like Lennox and Lennox was 100% correct, he did better vs Rahman (the second time) than Wlad did vs a poorer version of Rahman.
Ive come around On Lewis quite a bit.Pretty cool,top champion with measured smugness.He also took quite a few swipes at Rahman and his weight.Something about having a 'fat' chance and rotund ?;D
As much as that would make it so much better for the viewers than the Wladimir Klitschko we have today, I'm just not convinced he can get over the KOs he's received previously, and just can't really let go of his hands for fear something big may come over the top when he lowers his guard. No doubt Wlad is one of the greatest all-time heavyweights, he's made himself impenetrable behind that guard, and no one can get close to him to beat him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I think the problem for Wlad's legacy is always going to be that his brother is always going to be considered ever so slightly better.
I like what he does, he is still winning almost every fight by stoppage, and he is making it virtually impossible to hit him minus the Thompson fight.
I thought it was hypocritical of LL to criticize Wlad for using the same cautious, jab-happy style he used to dominate the HWs of the 90s. Wlad is the same as him, he's been caught and KO'd by lesser opponents and consequently takes very few risks. Watch LL's fight against a dangerous puncher like Tua, its the same as what Wlad does now.
Exactly, im sure against Akinwande that Lennox was dropped and held alot as well;D
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Originally Posted by Beanflicker
Difference between Lennox and Wlads jabbing style is Lennox used his jab as a set up then he went out for an assult...Wlad is scared to take a shot at times........Lennox was far from boring...a man who fought and beat everyone there was in the HW division during the second greatest era of HWts and retired with a 73% KO ratio can not be that boring.....
Lennox could also take a hell of a punch and did not mind doing so if need be when engaging...
As for his fight against Tua Tua at the time was a murderous puncher...Lennox took massive shots from him...http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSwfV-QFQSE
How does that resemble Wlad and the reaction he shows to punches coming at him?...and those are clips from the fight you mentioned.....
Tua was 37-1 with all but 3 of his 37 wins by KO...was Lewis supposed to stand in front of him and suck up punches to prove to you he could:rolleyes:...
Lennox faced Vitaly, Tyson, Rahman, Briggs, Grant, McCall, Morrison, Ruddock...all dangerous punchers of their time....a man worried about dangerous punchers does not have half his resume of wins against them
I just don't think they are very similiar.Both huge and employ superb jabs but I think Lewis was a bit more sturdy/Tougher than Wlad,more diverse and pron to punch back in combination.....go for the KO.I don't see that instinct in Wlad.Both could stink it out at times with ugly bouts,Lewis vs.Tucker,Mavoric mainly but he stood up in some mutual battles as well...Mercer,Vitali,Holyfield 2,Briggs.Wlad had Williamson & Peter as gut checks,ugh.Quote:
Originally Posted by Beanflicker
damn,Im slow today
Not really sure what that was all about...Noticed it myself....On one hand it could be that since the commenttators were talking Wlad up so much Lennox had to remind everyone exactly how he ruled the division...On the other I think he expected more of Wlad and knew Wlad could have sparked Rahman out much sooner.........Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Then again it could just be the old dog feeling a bit underappreciated.......
How I long for the Roy Jones days. I would settle for the Foreman days. Lewis is brutal on the ears. Great fighter. But pound for pound one of the worst commentators ever. Shannon Briggs who's done some ESPN is way better. So is Nate Campbell. Kevin Kelly was also fantastic on the mike. Any one of them would be an improvement over Lennox "I don't think he's going to make it" Lewis.
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahnNot really sure what that was all about...Noticed it myself....On one hand it could be that since the commenttators were talking Wlad up so much Lennox had to remind everyone exactly how he ruled the division...On the other I think he expected more of Wlad and knew Wlad could have sparked Rahman out much sooner.........Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Then again it could just be the old dog feeling a bit underappreciated.......
Why he just got into the hall of fame. I think Wlad holds back on his punches for obvious reasons, the fact of the matter is he's only failed to stop 2 guys since he was knocked out by Lamont Brewster. That is a 80% KO ratio, and they haven't been horrible fighters either, not the best the division has ever seen, but still the best the division has had to offer.
My impression was that he was re-visiting things from his own fights and just thinking through it. Just analyzing the fight and what his approach would be.
I'm a little hot and cold on Wlad. I mean, we complain, but the fact of it is is Wlad is still knocking guys out. Our beef is he's taking like 3 more rounds to do it than we think is necessary. But shouldn't a fight maximize his strengths and minimize his weaknesses? Sure he took a while to KO a faded Rahman, sure Lennox did it faster against a prime Rahman. But Wlad isn't Lewis. No matter how Wlad beats his opponents we'll always remind ourselves of that fact. We'd love Wlad to risk it all and just lob bombs at guys. That strategy would probably work 90% of the time, especially in this era in the division. But Wlad fights to the other 10%, more cautious, but still with the result we want: he knocks guys out. At the end of the day he may not be better than his brother, but he is certainly more prolific, more active, less prone to injury and will be around a lot longer. Look at his record. The guy is on track to doing something most heavyweights don't: fighting a LOT of people. I think people, myself included, are being a tad too picky.
Well Wlad was getting quite a bit of praise from the HBO team...Lennox is an athlete and any athlete of that caliber has a bit of an ego...it happens...like a kid who sees thei younger friends getting attention for doing something they just didQuote:
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahnNot really sure what that was all about...Noticed it myself....On one hand it could be that since the commenttators were talking Wlad up so much Lennox had to remind everyone exactly how he ruled the division...On the other I think he expected more of Wlad and knew Wlad could have sparked Rahman out much sooner.........Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Then again it could just be the old dog feeling a bit underappreciated.......
Why he just got into the hall of fame. I think Wlad holds back on his punches for obvious reasons, the fact of the matter is he's only failed to stop 2 guys since he was knocked out by Lamont Brewster. That is a 80% KO ratio, and they haven't been horrible fighters either, not the best the division has ever seen, but still the best the division has had to offer.
not saying that was the reason I said it "Could have been"...It was not the usual Lewis comments