ESPNs top 50 Fighters of all time

About 18 months ago, ESPN.com listed their 50 Greatest Boxers of All time. This was not done as a mythical pound-for-pound ranking, but was based on 4 key criteria:

In-ring Performance
Achievements
Dominance
Mainstream Appeal

I suppose using that criteria would give you a very different list to a mythical pound-for-pound list like we normally do (i.e Pernell Whitaker only at number 44! :o)

Anyway here's the list: Lets argue ;D

P.S It is 18 months old, so no Pacman ;)


1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Joe Louis
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Jack Johnson
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sam Langford
11. Joe Gans
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Harry Greb
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Gene Tunney
17. Mickey Walker
18. Archie Moore
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. George Foreman
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Joe Frazier
27. Ezzard Charles
28. Jake LaMotta
29. Sandy Saddler
30. Terry McGovern
31. Billy Conn
32. Jose Napoles
33. Ruben Olivares
34. Emile Griffith
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Eder Jofre
37. Thomas Hearns
38. Larry Holmes
39. Oscar De La Hoya
40. Evander Holyfield
41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
42. Alexis Arguello
43. Marco Antonio Barrera
44. Pernell Whitaker
45. Carlos Monzon
46. Roy Jones Jr.
47. Bernard Hopkins
48. Floyd Mayweather Jnr
49. Erik Morales
50. Mike Tyson

I think RJJ and Mayweather may deserve to be higher.
Ezzard Charles too and Archie.

But I agree with all the names mentioned

My biggest beef with this was Ali at number 2 and Sam Langford being at 10. Now that I look at it again Sugar Ray Leonard at 12 is absurd and Marvin Hagler at 35 the man terrorized the middleweight division for 10 years plus and was dodged by Leonard and many others for years. Marcel Cerdan at 25 and Lamotta at 28 something certainly wrong there. Benny Leonard not in the top ten. Harry Greb at 13 should definetly be in the top ten any man who can fight while being blind in one eye and winning nonetheless should easily be placed in the top ten. Greb and Benny Leonard should be switched. One more if I am not mistaken didn't Saddler beat Willie Pep 3 out of 4 times how and why the hell is Saddler rated so low at 29. Ted Kid Williams and Larry Holmes at least move up ten to fifteen spots.

What a BS list
Hopkins holds the record for middleweight defenses,and moved up to take another title,and he's 47th
Holmes was one robbery decision away from tying Marciano for undefeated champs,and he's below Frazier?

that is a old list though. but i think the ring or bert sugar had mad a top 80 fighters for the past 80 years i will post it if i find it again.

It would be interesting to see how the four criteria are weighted, whether or not the weightings are consistent among the fighters, and how each fighter measured on the four criteria.

My guess is mainstream appeal is higher than I would like to see it.

Too much weight to fighters from previous eras. Legend grows over time I suppose. Probably too much emphasis on heavyweights.

George Forman way too high. Not particuilarly skilled, looked a total klutz against Ali.

I wouldn't put Duran that far ahead of some others such as Hagler and Arguello.

Tyson underrated compared to some of the other heavyweights.

Arguello too low. Hagler too low compared to some others.

Holmes too low compared to guys like Frazier, Foreman, Dempsey, Marciano.

Olivares maybe a little high.

Floyd is too low.

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

What a BS list
Hopkins holds the record for middleweight defenses,and moved up to take another title,and he's 47th
Holmes was one robbery decision away from tying Marciano for undefeated champs,and he's below Frazier?

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wat he said :)

Ring Magazine's list of the 80 Best Fighters of the Last 80 Years - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

here it is :)

How can Pernell Whitaker only be 44 ? he is one of the GOAT IMO, he only lost one legit fight to Felix Trinida. And thats when he just got out of rehab, and he still won 3 rounds and had Felix Trinidad badly hurt in the 7th round.

Azumah Nelson
Julio Cesar Chavez
Roger Mayweather
Jose Luis Ramirez x2
Greg Haugen
Freddie Pendleton
Jorge Paez
James McGirt x2
Julio Cesar Vasquez
Wilfredo Rivera x2
Rafael Pineda

Titles at Lightweight, Jr Welterweight, Welterweight, Jr Middleweight.

Number 44 is fucking BS end of.

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Originally Posted by Trainer Monkey

What a BS list
Hopkins holds the record for middleweight defenses,and moved up to take another title,and he's 47th
Holmes was one robbery decision away from tying Marciano for undefeated champs,and he's below Frazier?

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Yeah.. what a shit list

Calzaghe has the record for supermiddle defences, moved-up to lightheavy to take another title off HOPKINS and he is.. err.. nowhere...

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Originally Posted by kingfrnk

Ring Magazine's list of the 80 Best Fighters of the Last 80 Years - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

here it is :)

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Thats closer,but it makes me wonder who Bernard has to kill to get some respect.
And even though Im one of the quickest guys to rip on Calzeghe,he got seriously dissed

If you wanna put Calzaghe up there, then you should probably consider a guy like Eusebio Pedroza, with 18 Featherweight title defenses against overall much tougher opposition.

I've also never understood why Joe Frazier gets rated so high, he is very overrated i'd love to know what he did. To be rated much higher than Larry Holmes, i also feel George Foreman gets very overrated aswell, he had two brief title reigns.

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Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire

I've also never understood why Joe Frazier gets rated so high, he is very overrated i'd love to know what he did. To be rated much higher than Larry Holmes, i also feel George Foreman gets very overrated aswell, he had two brief title reigns.

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A little category called mainstream appeal explains these ones.

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Ring Magazine's list of the 80 Best Fighters of the Last 80 Years - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

here it is :)

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Thats closer,but it makes me wonder who Bernard has to kill to get some respect.
And even though Im one of the quickest guys to rip on Calzeghe,he got seriously dissed

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that list was made in 2002 if they made one next year im sure it would be more different.

Well in defense of Big George, he reclaimed the Heavyweight title when he was past 40, a feat of unequalled proportion, even today!

Oscar De La Hoya rated higher than Hopkins is fukin bullshit to the fullest

Indeed, a BS list like Trainer Monkey initially stated. Benny Leonard, rated above Sugar Ray Leonard?

ESPN is trying to be cute.

1 Sugar Ray Robinson
2 Henry Armstrong
3 Willie Pep
4 Muhammad Ali
5 Joe Louis
6 Roberto Duran
7 Juio Cesar Chavez
8 Pernell Whitaker
9 Carlos Monzon
10 Sugar Ray Leonard
11 Ezzard Charles
12 Archie Moore
13 Jack Dempsey
14 Ricardo Lopez
15 Eder Jofre
16 Alexis Arguello
17 Marvin Hagler
18 Gene Tunney
19 Thomas Hearns
20 Rocky Marciano
21 Ruben Olivares
22 Floyd Mayweather Jr
23 Roy Jones
24 Larry Holmes
25 Manny Pacquiao
26 Miguel Canto
27 Wilfredo Gomez
28 Carlos Ortiz
29 George Foreman
30 Emile Griffith
31 Jose Angel Napoles
32 Miguel Canto
33 Erik Morales
34 Marco Antonio Barrera
35 Eusebio Pedroza
36 Bernard Hopkins
37 Salvador Sanchez
38 Bob Foster
39 Lennox Lewis
40 Mike McCallum
41 James Toney
42 Azumah Nelson
43 Felix Trinidad
44 Oscar De La Hoya
45 Khaosai Galaxy
46 Joe Calzaghe
47 Carlos Zarate
48 Wilfredo Benitez
49 Joe Frazier
50 Antonio Cervantes

My own little quick list and this is based on fighters, i have seen enough of. So fighters like Harry Greb won't be making my list. Don't bash on my list too bad i done this list very quickly, and its hard to think of the names.

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Originally Posted by KananKrus

Well in defense of Big George, he reclaimed the Heavyweight title when he was past 40, a feat of unequalled proportion, even today!

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Yes and he done it against one of the weakest belt holders, who's best weight was at Light Heavyweight. Im not trying to be hard on Big George Foreman, but come on top 20 of all time ? hell no.

As I said at the time when that ESPN list was originally posted...

the fact that Pernell was behind Oscar was downright laughable. No matter what the criteria was.

thats a good list ICE but i see no Mosley or Winky. i would have Tito a little higher than having him next to Oscar. but still a better list than ESPNs.

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Originally Posted by kingfrnk

thats a good list ICE but i see no Mosley or Winky. i would have Tito a little higher than having him next to Oscar. but still a better list than ESPNs.

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Like i said bro it was just a quick list i put together, i would have to think for hours to do a proper list. Because its so hard thinking of the names, remembering there best fights, achievements ETC.

I don't think Shane Mosley deserves to be top 50, i think his reign at Lightweight was pretty average. And above Lightweight he had mixed results, i agree with maybe Winky Wright, you could place in anywhere beateen 50-40, but i thought fighters like James Toney, Mike McCallum, were more deserving.

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Originally Posted by kingfrnk

thats a good list ICE but i see no Mosley or Winky. i would have Tito a little higher than having him next to Oscar. but still a better list than ESPNs.

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Like i said bro it was just a quick list i put together, i would have to think for hours to do a proper list. Because its so hard thinking of the names, remembering there best fights, achievements ETC.

I don't think Shane Mosley deserves to be top 50, i think his reign at Lightweight was pretty average. And above Lightweight he had mixed results, i agree with maybe Winky Wright, you could place in anywhere beateen 50-40, but i thought fighters like James Toney, Mike McCallum, were more deserving.

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yea that would take a while. but atleast u have SRL at #10 :)

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Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire

I've also never understood why Joe Frazier gets rated so high, he is very overrated i'd love to know what he did. To be rated much higher than Larry Holmes, i also feel George Foreman gets very overrated aswell, he had two brief title reigns.

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Joe Frazier won the Biggest fight Ever. He was the first man ever to beat Muhammad Ali. He was undisputed heavyweight champion in THE single greatest era of heavyweight boxing, and he was an Olympic gold medalist.

Forman was a two time undisputed heavyweight champion, once in the greatest era of heavyweight boxing and again 20 years latter in the 2nd greatest era of heavyweight boxing. He is the first person to beat Joe Frazier and did it by knockout. Twice.

I can't believe some people putting Oscar that low.I mean some did notice he took on the who's who of boxing. Also is a six weight class champ. Also IMO Willie Pep is rated ridiculously high. Sandy Saddler is a much better fighter than he ever was. People put the emphysis on ring generalship what Pep had but he could not break a potato chip if I held it in front of him. Give Saddler the respect he deserves. On Sugar's list I would switch them two. Also with his list I wouldn't rate the Leonard's that high. Other than that his list is good.

These lists are impossible to put together, especially in order. You can see they order the top 10 then just put names oin the order they think about them. A lot of the fighters a close to guys who fought at the same time, it's like they went 'Oh Archie Moore should be in' then they go 'Oh shit then so should Ezzard Charles' then they chick Roy Bernard and Floyd in right next to each other as a bit of an after though. Lamotta shouldn't be ont it at all just as an observation.

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Originally Posted by KananKrus

Well in defense of Big George, he reclaimed the Heavyweight title when he was past 40, a feat of unequalled proportion, even today!

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Yes and he done it against one of the weakest belt holders, who's best weight was at Light Heavyweight. Im not trying to be hard on Big George Foreman, but come on top 20 of all time ? hell no.

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Yes, too, but he got a win against Holyfield when he was prime, it says somethin', won't you say?

... Moorer then challenged Evander Holyfield for the IBF and WBA title belts. On April 22, 1994, Moorer overcame a second-round knockdown and went on to win a majority decision over Holyfield. (wikipedia)

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Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire

I've also never understood why Joe Frazier gets rated so high, he is very overrated i'd love to know what he did. To be rated much higher than Larry Holmes, i also feel George Foreman gets very overrated aswell, he had two brief title reigns.

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Joe Frazier won the Biggest fight Ever. He was the first man ever to beat Muhammad Ali. He was undisputed heavyweight champion in THE single greatest era of heavyweight boxing, and he was an Olympic gold medalist.

Forman was a two time undisputed heavyweight champion, once in the greatest era of heavyweight boxing and again 20 years latter in the 2nd greatest era of heavyweight boxing. He is the first person to beat Joe Frazier and did it by knockout. Twice.

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So what if Joe Frazier had one single big win against a rusty Muhammad Ali ? how many fighters have had one big win over a great fighter ? take Randolph Turpin he beat the greatest fighter of all time, i don't see him anywhere, and even though he lost the rematch, he was still beating SRR in the rematch until SRR rallied.

Where as Joe Frazier wasn't even really competitive in the next two fights with Muhammad Ali, he atleast lost by 4 or 3 rounds in the 2nd fight, and he was atleast 5 rounds behind in the 3rd fight. One big win shouldn't automatically get you that high in the rankings, and his other wins against Jimmy Ellis x2, Jerry Quarry x2, OscarBonavena x2, Buster Mathis, Joe Bugner, are decent wins but hardly warranting that high of a ranking.

As for George Foreman again yes he defeated Joe Frazier x2, which were very good wins. But other than a win over Ken Norton, who always mostly folded against big punchers, what other wins did George Foreman have that stand out ? he beat Ron Lyle but was almost Ko'ed in the process, and no disrespect to Ron Lyle but he's nowhere near one of the top Heavyweights. I wouldn't even put him in the top 40 Heavyweights of all time.

George Chuvalo was also a decent win but come on despite George Chuvalo having a granite chin, he is nothing special. He was always in the B class regarding Heavyweight rankings, and after George Foreman's loss to Muhammad Ali he was soundly beaten by Jimmy Young, then he retired and comeback and a beat a few stiffs, along with a few decent opponents like Bert Cooper, and an old washed up Gerry Cooney.

He then went onto challenge Evander Holyfield and lost soundly, despite giving a good effort but a loss is a loss, he then got a gift decision against the goodish Alex Stewart, was given a boxing lesson by Tommy Morrison. And please don't try and hype up Michael Moorer, he beat an Evander Holyfield that was having problems with his health at that time, and Michael Moorer still got a gift decision in that fight, and he was beaten to a pulp in a rematch against a 100 percent Evander Holyfield.

Michael Moorer was a good Light Heavyweight but at Heavyweight, he was goodish at best. He went life and death with Bert Cooper, was badly hurt against Alex Stewart, his chin was always pretty suspect at Heavyweight. And he was giving George Foreman a boxing lesson, until George Foreman got that homerun shot which was a hell of an achievement, but come off it Michael Moorer was one of the weakest champions in the modern era of the Heavyweights and you know it.

Then George Foreman's reign was quickly over when he defended it against Axel Schulz. And got another gift decision, and refused to give Axel Schulz a rematch which in turn got his title took off him. He then fought weak opposition like Lou Savarase, Crawford Grimsley, then come Shannon Briggs, and i have to admit i thought George Foreman beat Shannon Briggs, but the point im trying to make.

Is that combined with his two careers George Foreman only made 3 title defense's and his best wins were against Michael Moorer, Joe Frazier x2, Ken Norton, Ron Lyle, George Chuvlalo, Bert Cooper, Gregorio Peralta x2, Gerry Cooney, ETC.

Now if you honestly think taking that all into account, that George Foreman deserves to be top 20 of all time, then im quite speechless no offense, he suffered bad losses to Jimmy Young, Tommy Morrison, he also got atleast 3 gift decisions against mediocre opposition, i think George Foreman is a hell of a fighter and im not trying to discredit him.

But putting George Foreman as one of the best 20 fighters of all time, is just way off the mark IMO. I have him at 29 and i could have easily rated him lower, but i think thats a pretty fair rating, any higher and thats seriously pushing it IMO.

Fightfan, Probably the reason why Pepp is higher than Saddler, is because Saddler Beat Pepp after the plane crash. Surgeons said He would be lucky to even walk again, after the injurys Pepp recieved, He certainly wasnt the Fighter He was before the crash.

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Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire

How can Pernell Whitaker only be 44 ? he is one of the GOAT IMO, he only lost one legit fight to Felix Trinida. And thats when he just got out of rehab, and he still won 3 rounds and had Felix Trinidad badly hurt in the 7th round.

Azumah Nelson
Julio Cesar Chavez
Roger Mayweather
Jose Luis Ramirez x2
Greg Haugen
Freddie Pendleton
Jorge Paez
James McGirt x2
Julio Cesar Vasquez
Wilfredo Rivera x2
Rafael Pineda

Titles at Lightweight, Jr Welterweight, Welterweight, Jr Middleweight.

Number 44 is fucking BS end of.

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No way, he's was really good, but thats 44 out of the best ever, he wasn't that well recognized which is a big factor, he never got the credit he deserved, and thats probably why he is so low, but he lost to Oscar, not by the scores they had, but he lost that one.

Because people naturally dry hump the past all these guys won't get the credit they deserve until 20+ years down the road. Honestly guys like Whitaker, Hopkins, Mayweather all deserve to be higher, especially Hopkins with his fight with Calzaghe and his win over Pavlik now. I think he should be p4p in the top 30.

Got to say these all time lists are highly biased towards old fighters.

I mean Joe Luis at 4, really?

Apart from Schmelling who did he ever beat? His era was as weak as our modern era. Larry Holmes, Lennox Lewis, Tyson, Holyfield, Bowe, Ali, Foreman and Frazier would all be favourites to beat him imo.

Marciano too has a record less impressive than Joe Calzaghe. Again who did he beat?

Henry Armstrong did a great feat but Manny has done as much already imo and could go on to do more.

In all seriousness I really think Manny is top 10 already with guys like B Hop and Roy Jones thereabouts too.

Never a fan of lists.... but where is ?

Aaron Pryor
Salvador Sanchez
Wilfredo Gomez
Finito Lopez
Azumah Nelson
Fighting Harada

Seems to me that the little guys get a raw deal here!

Better list but Michael Spinks waaay too high at 41.

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Originally Posted by BIG H

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Joe Louis
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Jack Johnson
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sam Langford
11. Joe Gans
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Harry Greb
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Gene Tunney
17. Mickey Walker
18. Archie Moore
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. George Foreman
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Joe Frazier
27. Ezzard Charles
28. Jake LaMotta
29. Sandy Saddler
30. Terry McGovern
31. Billy Conn
32. Jose Napoles
33. Ruben Olivares
34. Emile Griffith
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Eder Jofre
37. Thomas Hearns
38. Larry Holmes
39. Oscar De La Hoya
40. Evander Holyfield
41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
42. Alexis Arguello
43. Marco Antonio Barrera
44. Pernell Whitaker
45. Carlos Monzon
46. Roy Jones Jr.
47. Bernard Hopkins
48. Floyd Mayweather Jnr
49. Erik Morales
50. Mike Tyson

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Any list that doesn't include Ricardo Lopez is a garbage list

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Originally Posted by BIG H

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Joe Louis
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Jack Johnson
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sam Langford
11. Joe Gans
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Harry Greb
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Gene Tunney
17. Mickey Walker
18. Archie Moore
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. George Foreman
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Joe Frazier
27. Ezzard Charles
28. Jake LaMotta
29. Sandy Saddler
30. Terry McGovern
31. Billy Conn
32. Jose Napoles
33. Ruben Olivares
34. Emile Griffith
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Eder Jofre
37. Thomas Hearns
38. Larry Holmes
39. Oscar De La Hoya
40. Evander Holyfield
41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
42. Alexis Arguello
43. Marco Antonio Barrera
44. Pernell Whitaker
45. Carlos Monzon
46. Roy Jones Jr.
47. Bernard Hopkins
48. Floyd Mayweather Jnr
49. Erik Morales
50. Mike Tyson

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Any list that doesn't include Ricardo Lopez is a garbage list

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I got Ricardo Lopez at 14 although my list was done quick. So its a bit all over the place, i think give or a take a few places thats about right, but your right any list without the great Ricardo Lopez is ridiculous.

Ditto and Ditto on Lopez....pathetic exclusion.

I mean its ESPN :confused:

I can't be the only one who expected a garbage list.

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Originally Posted by Casamayor Nuthugger 4 Life

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Originally Posted by BIG H

1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Joe Louis
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Jack Johnson
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sam Langford
11. Joe Gans
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Harry Greb
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Gene Tunney
17. Mickey Walker
18. Archie Moore
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. George Foreman
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Joe Frazier
27. Ezzard Charles
28. Jake LaMotta
29. Sandy Saddler
30. Terry McGovern
31. Billy Conn
32. Jose Napoles
33. Ruben Olivares
34. Emile Griffith
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Eder Jofre
37. Thomas Hearns
38. Larry Holmes
39. Oscar De La Hoya
40. Evander Holyfield
41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
42. Alexis Arguello
43. Marco Antonio Barrera
44. Pernell Whitaker
45. Carlos Monzon
46. Roy Jones Jr.
47. Bernard Hopkins
48. Floyd Mayweather Jnr
49. Erik Morales
50. Mike Tyson

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Any list that doesn't include Ricardo Lopez is a garbage list

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I got Ricardo Lopez at 14 although my list was done quick. So its a bit all over the place, i think give or a take a few places thats about right, but your right any list without the great Ricardo Lopez is ridiculous.

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I put my own top 30 on here a couple of years ago, I had Whitaker at 8 and Lopez at 13

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1. Sugar Ray Robinson
2. Muhammad Ali
3. Henry Armstrong
4. Joe Louis
5. Willie Pep
6. Roberto Duran
7. Benny Leonard
8. Jack Johnson
9. Jack Dempsey
10. Sam Langford
11. Joe Gans
12. Sugar Ray Leonard
13. Harry Greb
14. Rocky Marciano
15. Jimmy Wilde
16. Gene Tunney
17. Mickey Walker
18. Archie Moore
19. Stanley Ketchel
20. George Foreman
21. Tony Canzoneri
22. Barney Ross
23. Jimmy McLarnin
24. Julio Cesar Chavez
25. Marcel Cerdan
26. Joe Frazier
27. Ezzard Charles
28. Jake LaMotta
29. Sandy Saddler
30. Terry McGovern
31. Billy Conn
32. Jose Napoles
33. Ruben Olivares
34. Emile Griffith
35. Marvin Hagler
36. Eder Jofre
37. Thomas Hearns
38. Larry Holmes
39. Oscar De La Hoya
40. Evander Holyfield
41. Ted "Kid" Lewis
42. Alexis Arguello
43. Marco Antonio Barrera
44. Pernell Whitaker
45. Carlos Monzon
46. Roy Jones Jr.
47. Bernard Hopkins
48. Floyd Mayweather Jnr
49. Erik Morales
50. Mike Tyson

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Any list that doesn't include Ricardo Lopez is a garbage list

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I got Ricardo Lopez at 14 although my list was done quick. So its a bit all over the place, i think give or a take a few places thats about right, but your right any list without the great Ricardo Lopez is ridiculous.

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yea and i think you listed miguel canto twice. confusing.