Apart from his arrogance why do the regulars on here hate him ?
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Apart from his arrogance why do the regulars on here hate him ?
He's fake and full of shit, only fights guys he knows he can beat, avoided the top guys in every division from 140 onwards, says his opponents are garbage untill he beats them(then its a great victory), has no personality at all so throws money at people in a bid to make them like him, has beat women...........too many to list
Coniving
Uninteresting
No
Talent
;D
Heres little article i done sometime ago.
Forgetting Cotto, Williams, Margarito for a second, i want to know right at this moment why some of you do not consider Mayweather a great ?? a great boxer IMO has to take risks, Mayweather has passed this test with fighting the likes of Corrales, Castillo x2, Oscar, ETC. A great boxer has to be able to deal with all kinds of different styles and Mayweather passed with flying colors.
Achievements
He has also won multiple World titles in 5 different weight classes, and i can only think of 6 other boxers in the history of the sport that have achieved that. Oscar De La Hoya, Thomas Hearns, Ray Leonard, James Toney, Lester Ellis, Roberto Duran, Mayweather is only the 7th boxer in the history of boxing to achieve that so that achievement alone ranks him up there as one of the greats IMO.
Gernaro Hernadez
Lets go back to the start of Mayweather's career and actually study his opposition, Mayweather's first real good opponent was Genaro Hernandez, now i want to give you some history on Gernaro Hernadez. Before the Mayweather fight, Hernandez had beaten the likes of Jorga Paez, Azumah Nelson, Carlos Hernandez, plus G. Hernandez had never been beaten at Super Featherweight when Mayweather fought him. And before people bring up his loss to Oscar De La Hoya that was at Lightweight not Super featherweight, Mayweather only had 17 pro fights at the time and dominated a very experienced World Champion who had never been beaten at that weight class in impressive fashion.
Angel Manfredy
Now onto Manfredy who was considered a top contender at Super Featherweight and at the time a very dangerous opponent. Beating Arturo Gatti in impressive fashion, now a lot of people considered this very tough 1st title defense for Mayweather, and Mayweather destroyed Manfredy in 2 rounds and couldn't of done it any better.
Then after that fight Mayweather beat decent opposition like Carlos Gerena, Gregorio Vargas, Justin Juuko, Carlos Alberto Ramon Rios, Emanuel Augustus.
Diego Corrales
Now onto Diego Corrales who at the time was 33-0, and was one of the top P4P fighters at the time, Corrales was destroying all the top Super Featherweight contenders, Mayweather was making his 6 defense of his Super Featherweight World title, now the fans and mostly everybody at the time thought this was 50/50 match up. But to the shock of everybody Mayweather gave Corrales a boxing lesson knocking him down 5 times winning 10th round TKO when Corrales's corner threw in the towel.
Carlos Hernandez
After the Corrales fight Mayweather fought the tough Carlos Hernandez, Hernandez coming into Mayweather fight lost two fights one to Gernaro Hernandez and another early in his career. Hernandez was considered a good tough opponent, Mayweather suffered his first knockdown of his career when he suffered bad hand injury after hitting Hernandez on the top of the head. His glove touched the canvas it was not a punch from Hernandez by the way, and boxing fans who have watched the fight do not consider this a proper knockdown. But never the less it counts as a knockdown on the record books and Mayweather had the toughest fight of his career up to this point. But Mayweather won the fight by clear cut 12 round decision.
Jesus Chavez
After the Carlos Hernandez fight Mayweather fought the tough Jesus Chavez, now just like Carlos Hernandez, Chavez was considered a tough game opponent, Chavez only lost 1 fight early in his career. But built up a nice winning streak coming into Mayweather fight. This was Mayweather's 8 defense of Super Featherweight title. Now right from the opening bell Chavez come out like a mad man throwing 100+ and 90+ punches a round, trying to put non stop pressure on Mayweather, it seemed to have some good effect in early going as Chavez's relentless pressure was pinning Mayweather on the ropes, the problem was that Chavez was missing a lot of punches and Mayweather was countering Chavez with hard crisp uppercuts. As this great fight went on Mayweather was starting to take control in later rounds, coming into 9th round it seemed close fight but Mayweather dug deep and battered Chavez with brutal uppercuts, Chavez was at this point starting to take a great deal of punishment, so after the 9th round while sitting on his stool Chavez's corner stopped the fight. And Mayweather won a tough TKO victory over Chavez, arguably one Mayweather's toughest fights of his career.
Jose Luis Castillo And The Controversy
Now after Chavez fight Mayweather moved up to Lightweight to fight Lightweight world champion Jose Luis Castillo, Castillo had never been KO/Knockdown. in his entire career, he suffered a few TKO, losses early in his career. But really got himself together in 1999 when he beat Jorge Paez, then in 2000 took on the Lightweight World champion Stevie Johnston and beat him by decision, it was called Upset of the year, they then met in a rematch the same year and they battled to a draw, although there was some controversy, because at first Johnston was declared the winner by MD, but one of the judges made error in the scoring, his original scorecard was 115-114, making Johnston winner by MD, but minutes later it was discovered that his scorecard was counted up wrong and it should of read 114-114, so then the decision was then changed to a draw so Castillo retained his Lightweight title on a draw. Castillo then moved on and made 2 defenses of his title, then Mayweather vs Castillo was finally on.
Now in the first 4 rounds it appeared Mayweather would have easy time with Castillo, as he easily out boxed Castillo for 4 rounds using his jab and movement, but then after 4th round it started to become a very tough night for Mayweather. As Castillo started to close the distance between himself and Mayweather, and he started to pin Mayweather on the ropes and bang him to the body constantly. Castillo had point deducted in the 8th for hitting on the break and Mayweather had point deducted in the 10th for using his elbow. In the later rounds it was toe to toe battle as both men were having success, after 12th tough rounds, it appeared to some viewers that Castillo had clearly won by at least 1 or 2 rounds, and most people see this fight as razor thin close fight, but to the shock of everybody Mayweather won UD by wide scores of 115-111 116-111 115-111.
Now Mayweather fans would argue that there man landed the cleaner shots, and won most of the early rounds that gave him the nod, they would also argue Castillo's arm punches on the inside wern't that effective.
Castillo fans argued that Castillo was constant aggressor landed the more punches, they would also argue that there man by punch stats had out landed Mayweather by 50 + punches, and had out landed Mayweather by landslide on power shots.
Which ever way you see it there had to be a rematch so it was scheduled for the same year, now this time Mayweather used his movement better and did not allow Castillo to bully him to the ropes. Mayweather used his movement and out boxed Castillo this time, and there was no controversy and Mayweather won clear cut UD.
After this fight Mayweather beat solid contender Victoriano Sosa, now Sosa had previously knocked down Lightweight world champion Paul Spadafora twice, so he was considered to be a good tough opponent, This was quite a tough fight for Mayweather but he clearly won it by winning clear cut UD.
Phillip N'dou
Now N'dou coming into this fight had 31 wins 30 KO's, N'dou only had 1 loss early in his career, now even though N'dou had solid record he had mostly fought nobodies and had no real names on his record. But never the less N'dou still had high KO percentage and was dangerous puncher. This was Mayweather's 3rd defense of his Lightweight title, the big shock about this fight to viewers, was that Mayweather stood toe to toe with N'dou who was dangerous puncher. and Actually out brawled the tough N'dou the 5th round was considered one of the best rounds of the year. N'dou got a bad beating in this fight he was floored in the 7th, he beat the count but his corner threw in the towel because there man was taking too much of a beating. Viewers after were shocked how offensive Mayweather was and they witnessed a great toe to toe battle.
Continued.
DeMarcus Corley
Mayweather moved up to Jr Welterweight to fight Corley, now coming into Mayweather fight. Corley had 1 loss early in his career and a loss to Judah, plus he had held WBO Welterweight title, and he had made 2 defenses before losing razor thin SD to Zab Judah. Corley was considered a tough game opponent, when the fight begun it looked like it was going to be another typical Mayweather beat down as Mayweather clearly won first 3 rounds, but in the 4th round Mayweather for the first time in his career was stunned by huge over hand right from Corley, and he rocked back to the ropes. Mayweather used his defensive skills to avoid Corley's punches and he took about 20 seconds to recover, he then begun to make his comeback and started to hammer Corley with right hands, in a back and forth 4th round in which both men were hurt, the round ended with Mayweather dancing about and raising his hands in the air celebrating what an amazing round it was. Now it appeared as if the fight would be tough, but after the 4th round Mayweather dominated Corley flooring him in the 8th and 10th rounds, to win lopsided UD.
After this fight Mayweather took on Cotto's sparring partner Henry Bruseles, now Bruseles was not considered good opponent or etc. And Mayweather easily won TKO in the 8th.
Arturo Gatti
After the Bruseles fight Mayweather took on Arturo Gatti, Now Gatti was considered good opponent but just short of the elite level, but Gatti was on nice winning streak at the time, beating Micky Ward x2 by decision, and beating Gianluca Branco by decision win for Vacant WBO Jr Welterweight title, Branco was 32-0, then Gatti had two good KO victories over Leonard Dorin who was 22-0, and against Jesse James Leija who was former World champion. Then Mayweather vs Gatti was on this was for Jr Welterweight World title and Gatti was making his 3rd title defense. From the opening bell it was a total one sided beating with Gatti getting dropped in the 1st round, after 6th round Gatti was getting totally embarrassed and destroyed, so his corner wisely stopped the fight while Gatti was on his stool and Mayweather won Jr Welterweight title.
Mayweather then moved up to Welterweight to fight Sharmba Mitchell, who was aged 35 but still he was good opponent, Mayweather had an easy time with Mitchell dropping him in the 3th round and then finally stopping him with a body shot in the 6th round.
Zab Judah
After the Sharmba Mitchell Mayweather fought Judah. Now Judah was considered a very skilled fighter, but with mental flaws. Often losing concentration in fights. Coming into Mayweather fight he was KO in 2 by Tszyu in embarrassing fashion, and he lost controversial 12 round decision to Spinks, but he then got himself together beating Rafael Pineda, and revenging his loss to Cory Spinks by stopping him in the 9th. With that victory over Spinks he added IBF, WBA, WBC, World titles to his collection, he was then considered one of the top Welterweights in the world. But in his next fight to the shock of everyone he lost to Carlos Baldomir, losing his WBC title in one of the biggest upsets in recent years. Unfortunately for Mayweather he already scheduled to fight Judah before Judah vs Baldomir happened. So Judah vs Mayweather happened and it was for WBO and IBF titles, Judah got off to a good start winning 3 rounds out of 4, he also floored Mayweather in the early going, but it was ruled no knockdown by the ref. But replays clearly show it was knockdown but the ref's decision is final so it was ruled no knockdown. After 4 rounds Judah was clearly winning the fight but then the fight turned around, Mayweather figured out Judah and started to dominate him, Judah's output got lower and lower, and he seemed to lose concentration like he had done in the past. In the 10th round with Mayweather clearly ahead now, he stunned Judah near the end of the 10th and seemed close to stopping Judah, but then Judah threw low blow followed by rabbit shot right at the end of the 10th, The ref then called time out both fighters went to neural corners, but then Roger Mayweather come into the ring not happy with Judah's fouling, then basically all hell broke loose and a big riot started, it took awhile to get every body under control, but the fight resumed, and Mayweather won clear cut UD in a exciting but strange fight.
Carlos Manuel Baldomir And Antonio Margarito Situation
I already told you earlier how Baldomir upset Judah for Welterweight title, but after Judah fight he also stopped Arturo Gatti in 9th, coming into Mayweather fight he was coming off two good victories over Judah and Gatti, there was a bit off controversy before the fight, with people accusing Mayweather of avoiding Antonio Margarito for 8 million dollars.
Mayweather fans will argue Margarito had not beaten anyone worth mentioning, plus Mayweather was also getting 8 million dollars for fighting recognized Welterweight Champion Carlos Baldomir.
Margarito fans will argue Mayweather looked scared of Margarito when asked about fighting him, also Margarito had held WBO Welterweight title and had made 6 defenses of his title, he also beat a good hard hitting, young respected name like Cintron in impressive fashion.
Whatever you believe Baldomir vs Mayweather still happened so lets move on, Baldomir was recognized as Welterweight champion and was coming off two good victories like i mentioned earlier, when the fight started Mayweather easily out boxed Baldomir winning every round in a boring encounter. With some of the crowd even walking out but Mayweather won lopsided 12 round UD.
Oscar De La Hoya
After the Baldomir fight Mayweather then moved up to Light Middleweight to fight Oscar De La Hoya. Now there was different opinions on this fight.
Some people believed Oscar De La Hoya was past his peak with a bad performance against Felix Sturm, and getting KO by Bernard Hopkins.
Other people would argue that those fights vs Hopkins, Sturm, were at Weight class Oscar De La Hoya wasn't comfortable at. Plus at Light Middleweight he had beaten Vargas, Campas, Mayorga, and lost controversial decision to Shane Mosley. In some of Oscar De La Hoya's finest performances.
Which ever way you want to look at it, the fight went ahead and it generated loads of interest. It was one of the biggest fights in years. So the fight started and Oscar De La Hoya would try and pin Mayweather on the ropes and use eye catching flurries to try and steal the rounds, But the only problem was that Oscar De La Hoya's flurries were missing most of the time and Mayweather was countering Oscar De La Hoya with good success, it seemed close after 9 rounds. But Mayweather then took over winning the later rounds, with Mayweather winning SD.
Ricky Hatton
Now coming into Mayweather fight, Hatton was 43-0 and had some good victories over, Tszyu, Castillo, Collazo. Some fans wern't quite sure on this match up.
Fans would argue that Hatton isn't an elite Welterweight, and he struggled badly in his only Welterweight fight Winning controversial decision against Collazo, plus his best wins come against fighters who were past there prime like Castillo, Tszyu.
Other fans would argue that Hatton didn't take Collazo seriously, and only had 5 weeks to train and he didn't have time to properly adjust to the weight. Plus when Hatton beat Tszyu he was rated P4P number 3, and also Castillo had never KO coming into Hatton fight.
Which ever side you was on the fight went ahead at Welterweight, Hatton would try and bully Mayweather onto the ropes and rough him up on the inside, but Mayweather was also effective on the inside. And to the surprise of many fans Mayweather was actually beating Hatton on the inside, after about 3rd round Mayweather started to take control showing his class he started to out box Hatton. In the 6th Hatton had point deducted for hitting Mayweather on the back of the head, the fight resumed and Mayweather still was out boxing Hatton on the inside. And in the 10th round he hit Hatton with a solid left hook and Hatton went face first into turnbuckle. He got up but obviously shaken Mayweather then went on the attack and hit Hatton with combination and Hatton fell backwards, and the ref stopped the fight.
Some people believe Cortez was unfair to Hatton not allowing him to work on inside, others believe that Cortez was cautioning both men and that he was fair.
Mayweather's record now stands at 39 wins, 25 KO, 0 losses,
With World titles in Super Feathweight, Lightweight, Jr Welterweight, Welterweight, Light Middleweight.
Also i want to bring up one last point which i started in my other thread which i started yesterday, fans never seem to be happy with boxers winning multiple World titles in different weight classes, nor do they seem happy with boxers dominating 1 division. If a boxer dominates 1 division they accuse him of facing weak opposition, if a boxer wins World titles in different weight classes. They accuse them of skipping through the divisions and not dominating that division.
First off.. Floyd is one of my favorite fighters.. Regardless of his outside the ring antics as far as beating women or whatever, i can understand what he does and why.. He's the villain, and just like WWE wrestling the majority of people want to see the villain lose, it's nature.. I don't really think that there needs to be any other explanation than that..
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Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire
Well aren't you just a big ball of PBF facts....:rolleyes:
ANYHOW......
I can understand your point on people never being happy that is just something we have to live with on the other hand pertaining to PBF...
He made sure that when jumping divisions he would target the weakest of champions...EG- Gatti...he could have secured a fight with any of them but he choose the one with the weakest demeanor can not be denied.....and I will not engage in a debate on who else has done such things etc...
I can say that if he was jumping to 140 right now lets say...He would probably pick Holt or Bradley to fight for a world title rather then Hatton...why his chances are better...
If DLH was jumping to 140 he would pick Hatton before anyone else...
Not to say Floyd would not beat them but in his opp why fight tough if I don't need to:-\
Get the idea
I respect PBF and you can not deny his skill...contrary to many I like his fights and find him exciting...as a boxing fanatic I love counter punchers and seeing them use strategy to win....
I do not like his attitude and self praising ass...No matter how good you are there is no need to constantly be your own biggest fan...
Same reason I dislike David Haye
For me Mayweather doesnt have a personality. When he is being normal, he is bland.
When he is trying to act hard or be the bad guy he doesnt convince. He just comes across as an immature and irritating twat.
If you are going to ham up as the bad guy you have to be scary as fuck or have some wit with your insults. Floyd simply can do neither.
Daxx your first comment im not sure if i should take that as a compliment or not :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahnQuote:
Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire
Well aren't you just a big ball of PBF facts....:rolleyes:
ANYHOW......
I can understand your point on people never being happy that is just something we have to live with on the other hand pertaining to PBF...
He made sure that when jumping divisions he would target the weakest of champions...EG- Gatti...he could have secured a fight with any of them but he choose the one with the weakest demeanor can not be denied.....and I will not engage in a debate on who else has done such things etc...
I can say that if he was jumping to 140 right now lets say...He would probably pick Holt or Bradley to fight for a world title rather then Hatton...why his chances are better...
If DLH was jumping to 140 he would pick Hatton before anyone else...
Not to say Floyd would not beat them but in his opp why fight tough if I don't need to:-\
Get the idea
I respect PBF and you can not deny his skill...contrary to many I like his fights and find him exciting...as a boxing fanatic I love counter punchers and seeing them use strategy to win....
I do not like his attitude and self praising ass...No matter how good you are there is no need to constantly be your own biggest fan...
Same reason I dislike David Haye
i for one dont hate Floyd. hes one of my faves of all time. i just love the fact that he can beat anybody from 154 and down :cool:
i agree.Quote:
Originally Posted by cpcompany
Floyd is a short and skinny guy, i think only kids take him seriously when he tries to act hard and tough. Even 50 cents groupie think his just the lil homie that follows 50 around and annoys people along the way.
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Originally Posted by Hughesd
He does not fight in a way that pleases a lot of fans.(Not me)
Talks a lot of shit.
But the main reason is the arrogance which puts so many fans off him.
I dislike his personality.
Especially after he said he was greater then SRR, Ali and SRL.
I respect his skills and his talent as a fan of the sport.
Same reason everyone hates cocky big mouth showoffs.Cos there cocky bigmouth showoffs.
Saying that Mayweather has out of this world skills.
His achievments cannot be denied,easily ATG and HOF.I was extremly disapointed he did not fight cotto but if he did I'm sure there would be another guy he was ducking.If he did fight cotto he would easily have me singing his praises as the best p4p fighter ever,but he didn't.So I don't.
But to go through his record and pick it apart piece by peace.You can do that to any fighters resume and make it negative or positive.
As far as boxing history goes.People remember the names you beat.Not really how you beat them. So wether you love him or hate....Are you ever going to forget him and his top quality resume (But he did lose to DLH;D)
I normally don't root for trash talkers and Mayweather is one of them but I don't let that blind me from seeing that he's a talented boxer that has it all. Can't really say he has a flaw.
His personality sucks bad.
He retired right when all of the real competition came up.
Has yet to beat Paquiao and Cotto.
Other than that he has amazing skills.
Coz he's a dick.
I dont hate mayweather but I cant say he was one of my favorite fighters because of his boring style. He was too safety first in alot of fights and refused to let his hands go. He also didnt have alot of power. If you are going to pick weak opposition as least knock them out....
He showed in the Hatton fight the ability to throw combos and knock people out and if more if his fights were like that I would be his number one fan...;)
Emmanual Stewart once compared him to Roy Jones but without the 8-9 punch combinations and power.
Actually mate it was meant as neither a complement or insult...You know I respect your opinions on here always and I think you are one of the most knowledgeable posters around....Quote:
Originally Posted by Nonito DonaireDaxx your first comment im not sure if i should take that as a compliment or not :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahnQuote:
Originally Posted by Nonito Donaire
Well aren't you just a big ball of PBF facts....:rolleyes:
ANYHOW......
I can understand your point on people never being happy that is just something we have to live with on the other hand pertaining to PBF...
He made sure that when jumping divisions he would target the weakest of champions...EG- Gatti...he could have secured a fight with any of them but he choose the one with the weakest demeanor can not be denied.....and I will not engage in a debate on who else has done such things etc...
I can say that if he was jumping to 140 right now lets say...He would probably pick Holt or Bradley to fight for a world title rather then Hatton...why his chances are better...
If DLH was jumping to 140 he would pick Hatton before anyone else...
Not to say Floyd would not beat them but in his opp why fight tough if I don't need to:-\
Get the idea
I respect PBF and you can not deny his skill...contrary to many I like his fights and find him exciting...as a boxing fanatic I love counter punchers and seeing them use strategy to win....
I do not like his attitude and self praising ass...No matter how good you are there is no need to constantly be your own biggest fan...
Same reason I dislike David Haye
Was more of a "Well I guess he left little need for rememberence for this topic"......Heck you covered 3/4 of his career
Because he has a foul mouth. Look at the great fighters of yesteryear. They talked without swearing. They didn't trash talk nowhere near as bad as floyd. Even ali, with his antics, didn't roll around in the gutter as floyd does. At least ali was funny even when he was being mean spirited. Even sonny liston didn't talk like a punk.
I cannot put a finger on it, but Carl Lewis, somethin' in that fella' held me be a believer, even when he was lording it, as the fastest man alive!
I'm more interested in knowing why more of the frigging regulars on here don't hate Roy Jones Junior. I mean really, at least Floyd played it cool when he stepped into the ring.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hughesd
I dont really hate him
He's a technician,which means he's unexciting.
I like watching a technician at work,but alot of fans dont.
As far as the Manfreddy fight,Angel just didnt have the reach to close with him,and to Floyd's credit,he exploited the ever living hell out of that fact.
Little Floyds just plays the Bad guy and looks silly doing it, but you cant deny the classic skill set which is the best I have seen in the last 10 years at least, I dont like the fella at all but damm Jnr can box and fight when he has too.
Sometimes it's strange what it takes for a person to like or dislike fighters. Floyd may be arrogant... he may have ducked Margarito and a few others at 147 (a division where he doesn't belong)... and he may love playing the "bad boy", but I honestly cannot harbor any dislike for the guy. On the other hand, I've ALWAYS disliked the likes of Zab Judah, James Toney, and Naseem Hamed, to name a few.
Guys like Floyd piss me off because they have all the talent in the world and never once think they have to prove themselves. Floyd has "retired" undefeated but he never unified a weight division, he very seldom fought the most dangerous fighters at the weight classes he fought in.
He is the best fighter I've seen in a long time. Yes he has a big mouth but that takes nothing away from his talent.
Carl Lewis was a cheater ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KananKrus
Carl Lewis was supposedly one of the greatest athletes to ever grace the earth. Did anyone see him throw that opening pitch where the ball landed 3 feet in front of him?! I wish I could find a vid for that!Quote:
Originally Posted by Nonito DonaireCarl Lewis was a cheater ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KananKrus
Ducking the best.
Fight a WELTERWEIGHT for fuck sake!!!
Don't say he did in Baldomir or Judah :-X
Because he is unbelievably good. A great boxer. But not a great fighter to me. He hasn't fought a livewire opponent at WW. Ricky was a lightwelter. that being said, IMO he doesn't really talks the talk and walks the walk. His big mouth annoys most fans. Especially his father's mouth.Fukk Sr.
I think people hate mayweather because they know that he can "bring it", he says what he's goanna do and does it, like so may other boxer before him ie. eubank, naseem hamed and the greatest ALI, people who can deliver get seen as arrogant....its business at the end of the day and "money" knowa da business, lets face it anyone who is a champ at so many different weights desearves to be "COCKY":D
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...eather-jr.html
for putting up videos like this.
It's said throughout the forum that Mayweather's prefight trash talk and his "Money May" persona is all an act. Either way, it's still the image he's giving out there.
...i really do belive floyd is hated mainly because he wants to be. Some people like to be the hero others stive on being the villian. Being hated has made the guy a ton of money. When's the last time floyd's fan's sold out an arena or was the cause of big ppv no's. Being hated is his gimmic he's relies on the human aspect of people loving to see those doing better than themselves fail. I just saw a story on latrell sprewell who used to be in the NBA and it struck me funny that people like to look at how L spreewell has lost millions in cash and property recently yet forgetting he's probably lost more in a year than the reporter and most that saw the story will have in a lifetime. Better to have had blah blah....anyhow floyd builds on that instead of trying to gain fans.
I think that is pretty much spot on.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
I somewhat like hated him when he said he's better than Robinson.:-\
He should wait people to tell him that.
So I dislike him for having a loud mouth.:cool:
.... and he fights dirty against Hatton...:cool:
..... he's boring against his last opponents....
..... De la hoya beat him in the early rounds...
.... he thinks he's pretty...;D
Hmmmmm let me see. This ought to be easy. He's arrogant, He waves his money in front of people's face, he tries to retire at his young age because he doesnt want to risk losing, he cheated against the Big Show at wrestlemania, he acts like the world revolves around him, his dad is just as arrogant as him and also looks like the predator when he has long braids, 90 percent of his fights are boring.........ect......
I can understand why people hate Floyd the person. He comes off as a spoiled, arrogant, ignorant, obnoxious son of a b!tch. No one likes to see a rich brat running around throwing money around. It just doesn't endear you to the public.
What I can't understand is how self proclaimed boxing fans can hate Floyd the boxer. The guy is a true virtuoso, a throwback. He is, whether his haters want to admit it or not, one of the all time greats. Thats a fact.
Look back in boxing history. How many guys had Floyd's physical gifts (speed, reflexes) combined with boxing skill and knowledge (defense, combination punching, ring generalship, ect), combined with unbreakable determination and discipline. I'll tell you right now, you're list probably won't leave the single digits.
As much as I dont like his personality, in the ring he embodies the sweet science, and with the popularity of mma rising and boxing declining, he's probably one of the last true virtuosos we'll see. Floyd the fighter deserves better than having so called fans a "know it alls" saying he never fought anyone (because thats just stupid).
Enjoy Floyd while he's around because its going to be a long time (if ever) that we see that kind of brilliance in the ring again.