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Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
Could he really overpower them? Could he even land a punch against them?
I know it sounds crazy but watching Grandaddy Holy dance around the big oath for 12 rounds, you couldn't help but think if Manny Pacquaio was in there with him he'd box the shit out of him.
How would Valuev hit him? Manny would jump in, pound his body and be gone before Valuev even had time to block the body shots.
I'm being completely serious but I can't see any other result than Manny completely outboxing Valuev over 12 rounds.
If Ivan Calderon fought him I'd be cautiously optimistic that the little guy could spring an upset.
He has to be the worst heavyweight champ of all time, if I was a top fighter in practically any weight class I'd be clamouring for a fight with him.
He's fucking useless.
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
Bilbo my friend, the only thing that Valuev could is his meat! And he probably can't do that good either! I'm telling you right now that anyone can beat him Chyna from WWF could probably kick his ass. This is the worst fighter in the world and ever will be! Bring on Nonito Doniare or however u spell it KO for the bantamweight!
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
Anybody that has high work rate would beat Valuev by decision.
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
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Vitalifan4life
Bilbo my friend, the only thing that Valuev could is his meat! And he probably can't do that good either! I'm telling you right now that anyone can beat him Chyna from WWF could probably kick his ass. This is the worst fighter in the world and ever will be! Bring on Nonito Doniare or however u spell it KO for the bantamweight!
You what I'd love to see, Brock Lesnar come over from the UFC and pound the living shit out of him.
Even better if Randy Coutoure could pull it off.
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
Bilbo you don't need Lesner all you need is George St. Pierre or even like a retired Sugar Ray Leonard or maybe even like Ali he shakes more than Valuev does anything in the ring.
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
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Vitalifan4life
Bilbo you don't need Lesner all you need is George St. Pierre or even like a retired Sugar Ray Leonard or maybe even like Ali he shakes more than Valuev does anything in the ring.
I'd actually love to see Marty Rogan get the call and beat him.
Imagine that, a 37 year old Irish taxi driver who won a reality type show then went on to beat Audley Harrison wins the world title in his 12 th pro fight against Nikolay Vlauev.
What a great story that would be, he didn't start boxing until 2004 and he really could pull it off too.
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
would be funny, i think pac and floyd would have time to smoke a few sticks before valuevs punches get near. then they would easily duck underneath move away and smoke another one or two ;D
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
If the heavyweight had any brains, they'd charge in and kind of rugby muscle them into the corner and hold them there while they pounded them... They'd surely be able to take a few punches while rushing forward...
But that's assuming heavyweights have brains... :confused:
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
floyd beat big show. he can beat valuev
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
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Scott22
floyd beat big show. he can beat valuev
Sweet Post!
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
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Originally Posted by
Dizaster
If the heavyweight had any brains, they'd charge in and kind of rugby muscle them into the corner and hold them there while they pounded them... They'd surely be able to take a few punches while rushing forward...
But that's assuming heavyweights have brains... :confused:
I don't know if any of you have played the rgp game Oblivion?
Well fighting Valuev is just like fighting an ogre on that.
You just circle around them wait for them to do their own attack, a wild club swing, move out of the way and then dart in and land a couple of blows and circle again.
After a couple minutes of this their energy bar goes down to zero and they fall over and die.
I reckon Manny could do it.
Plus its hard to get them in the corner and pound them seeing as you cant hold them. All Valuev can do is try and get in range and then prod out his jab. If he was allowed to pin them up against a wall and squeeze them to death he could win (still have my doubts) but without being able to grab them I don't think it matters how big he is.
He'd never land anything against them and if he got them to the ropes Manny would just duck through his legs, he'd be uncatchable.
But it this way, how often have you gone toe to toe with a fly and lost?
Without the aid of spray or a huge rolled up paper what are you going to do?
Try and kill a fly with just your bare hands as it buzzes around your room.
It's very frustrating indeed!
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
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Bilbo
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Originally Posted by
Dizaster
If the heavyweight had any brains, they'd charge in and kind of rugby muscle them into the corner and hold them there while they pounded them... They'd surely be able to take a few punches while rushing forward...
But that's assuming heavyweights have brains... :confused:
I don't know if any of you have played the rgp game Oblivion?
Well fighting Valuev is just like fighting an ogre on that.
You just circle around them wait for them to do their own attack, a wild club swing, move out of the way and then dart in and land a couple of blows and circle again.
After a couple minutes of this their energy bar goes down to zero and they fall over and die.
I reckon Manny could do it.
Plus its hard to get them in the corner and pound them seeing as you cant hold them. All Valuev can do is try and get in range and then prod out his jab. If he was allowed to pin them up against a wall and squeeze them to death he could win (still have my doubts) but without being able to grab them I don't think it matters how big he is.
He'd never land anything against them and if he got them to the ropes Manny would just duck through his legs, he'd be uncatchable.
But it this way, how often have you gone toe to toe with a fly and lost?
Without the aid of spray or a huge rolled up paper what are you going to do?
Try and kill a fly with just your bare hands as it buzzes around your room.
It's very frustrating indeed!
True good point... I'm sure it would never eventuate, but even a a sparring session where Valuev agrees not to totally knock Manny's head off if he DOES catch him.. But it would surely be interested... I'd have the fight going for 12 rounds, unless the fight lets the heavyweight tackle the little guy into the corner and hold him there while he punches..
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
Im sure Richard Schaeffer is already on the phone booking that circus for Oscar.. I can see Delahoya billing this as a modern day David and Goliath with a $70ppv :rolleyes:
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
He might try to scramble up Valuev's pant leg and hit em in the ol bells a few times....only they seem to be missing at the moment..... so it would be fruitless :-X
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JT Rock
Im sure Richard Schaeffer is already on the phone booking that circus for Oscar.. I can see Delahoya billing this as a modern day David and Goliath with a $70ppv :rolleyes:
I'm suprised someone doesn't fancy the job.
I mean in all seriousness Roy Jones, B Hop, Chad Dawson, Joe Calzaghe, I'd take all four of them to dominate Valuev.
A straight forward banger like Pavlik might have some troubles but a speedy elusive fighter or a defensive wizard like Hopkins would whoop his ass.
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There is the issue of whether they could reach his head though... Those chest hairs of Valuev would probably come in handy then to climb up while he's preoccupied throwing combo's.
It would an interesting fight surely..
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
A little guy might get a TKO, as Valuev quits on his stool from exhaustion, confusion, and frustration!
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The little guys would burn to much energy trying to stay out of the way. Eventually they would run out of gas and get clubbed.
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
Joe Calzaghe with his fast hands and good footwork would beat Valuev IMO.
The only thing going for him is size.
The sooner Haye sorts out the HW division the better.
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
This remind me of the who would win in a fight? a Ninja or a Knight? 50/50?
Idk it would have to happen.
Personally id like to see Mayweather or Pacman go flying across the ring KOed by Valuev! ;D:D
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
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Manuel "Chubby" Medina
This remind me of the who would win in a fight? a Ninja or a Knight? 50/50?
Idk it would have to happen.
Personally id like to see Mayweather or Pacman go flying across the ring KOed by Valuev! ;D:D
See that would be a great matchup, what arms would they be carrying? I guess a broadsword for the knight and nunchcuks and throwing stars for the ninja?
I think the knight attacks early but if the ninja can get behind the knight he takes him to the ground, forces open the little window box and stabs out his eyes to win by fatality.
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
I think he handles Malignaggi.
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Re: Seriously if Manny or Floyd fought Nikolay Valuev how would the fight go?
this is how the fight would go......Unless valuev lands a mother of a puch or a really heavy klitcho stlye jab then the fight would be over, now if manny oR flloyd went in there dancing and moving around they would easily win on points and it would go the distance, little fighters are always hard to hit because they are like flie's lol and valuev would be the silver back trying to catch one. here's one for you, lets say that cuss de'mato never passed away and tyson still had all the people that he stared off with around him ie jimmy jacobs and teddy atlas would the following fighters have beaten him
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HOLLYFEILD
LEWIS
WILLIAMS
MCBRIDE
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