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I juzz watched Erik morales Vs. David Diaz again and reading the Evander Holyfield threads. Have made me write this thread.
In my eyes Erik morales won that fight but beign all for Erik Morales id like to see you guys opinion.
what do you guys think did Erik Morales win? or lose?
I thought that Morales won that fight, I don't think I have that scorecard anymore. But I remember being suprised that Erik didn't protest the decision at all, David Diaz was never anything more than a fringe contender with good management. I like the guy he has great heart, but definately shouldn't have been holding a strap in such a strong division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina
yup yup I remember beign mad at the decision clearly by my eyes Erik won.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepI thought that Morales won that fight, I don't think I have that scorecard anymore. But I remember being suprised that Erik didn't protest the decision at all, David Diaz was never anything more than a fringe contender with good management. I like the guy he has great heart, but definately shouldn't have been holding a strap in such a strong division.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina
morales. the only thing that didn't make it a total robbery was him fading in the last couple of rounds, which made a case for a diaz victory.
Morales won. If the fight would of took place anywhere but Chicago he would of got the win.
Hell yeah Erik won no doubt. They both fight for Top Rank hence it was Arum's decision. It's the end of the road for Erik after a trilogy against Pac and they knew Diaz can be marketed at least once. Look who Diaz fought next.Fukk BOB.
iono i watached that fight i actually had it a either a draw or diaz by one,
ur right i think it was the constant pressue that killed morales, REMATCH
fun fight to watch!!!
When does Morales make his comeback fight?:-\I always love watching him.Great great fighter.Great chin!!:)
definately one of the roberies i had been most disapointed and angry at!
The thing is morales won, he looked gone gainst pac yeah,..
and when your an aging fighter time is something very precious, he turned back the clock, deserved the decision.. love the first round when he was bieng chased down i was worrying my ass off thinking he was shot.. and morales puts him down. loved it!
but by all rights he should be the first and only mexican four weight world champion cementing his legacy permanently and riding off into the sunset..
but this right has been robbed of him and now he talks of his hunger to return in '09 and further risk a legacy that by right should be solid and he should be content if the right decision had been rewarded.
Bad decisiions really make me sick.
Hopefully neverQuote:
Originally Posted by yvonne
Yeah I was bummed he didn't get the decision in that one. Just look at Diaz eye, he was fucked up. Morales just didn't have the stamina to keep up the pace late and win convincingly.
I have a nasty feeling about his comeback.Quote:
Originally Posted by yvonne
Is that a good thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreI have a nasty feeling about his comeback.Quote:
Originally Posted by yvonne
yeah, we all know he was robbed. lol.
this realization is too late....:cool:
I've never seen this fight personally but I remember the day after ESPN said it was "shady scoring" .
It wasn't a blowout by any means, it ended up being close cause Morales faded at the end. It definately appeared Morales was ahead though. I have seen much worse decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fightfan
It really was close, any claim from Morales' camp of bias was on the strength of his performance in the first 5-6 rounds of the fight. The remainder bottom half rounds saw EM fading, negating any lead he built in the said begining rounds. Diaz finishing strong, in my opinion, earned a narrow win!
No he should stay retired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" MedinaIs that a good thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreI have a nasty feeling about his comeback.Quote:
Originally Posted by yvonne
Well personally id like to see him comeback strong and keep going considering he is only 32 yrs old,although MAB & Pacman fights might have had a toll on him. But on his comeback he wants to face Juan Manuel Marquez:-\ so that might be a toughy.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreNo he should stay retired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" MedinaIs that a good thing?Quote:
Originally Posted by Andre
what he said, there have been much much worse, Morales being such a legendary and popular fighter made the outcry more than it usually would be considering it wasn't that horrible a decision compared to some. He should have got the decision though.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepIt wasn't a blowout by any means, it ended up being close cause Morales faded at the end. It definately appeared Morales was ahead though. I have seen much worse decisions.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fightfan
Morales needs to stay retired. He might be 32. But in Boxing he's more like 42 or olderQuote:
Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" MedinaWell personally id like to see him comeback strong and keep going considering he is only 32 yrs old,although MAB & Pacman fights might have had a toll on him. But on his comeback he wants to face Juan Manuel Marquez:-\ so that might be a toughy.Quote:
Originally Posted by AndreNo he should stay retired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Manuel "Chubby" Medina
Morales needs to stay retired, i'd love to seem him still involved in the sport, but as a trainer or a promoter, which honestly i think he'd be very good at seeing how he's gone on the record more than once saying that fan's deserve great fights, so i'm sure he would try to keep his promoted cards with that standard, but yea he's already given the world countless memorable wars and moments, IMO him and Barrera are both the 2nd best Mexican boxer's ever, i say they're tied, cause you can honestly make a case for each in completely different perspectives.
I dont think Erik was robbed in this fight . He was very close to be stopped in the last round. He had no legs and I think he just got beaten up by the bigger fresher guy . It makes no difference though cuz anyone with half a brain knows that a prime Erik would have toyed with Diaz so it no harm to his legacy
If Erik wants to comeback he has to do it soon . Barrera has his next comeback fight lined up in January in Mexico. Its pretty soon after his last comeback . Erik needs to do the same or he will be too ring rusty . Hes probably best off staying retired TBH .
I think Erik fukked up Diaz's face better than Manny did.
i think morales should of won. but i rather not see him come back