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With this fight coming up I was wondering if anyone thinks that Berto could Ko Collazo. I haven't seen that much of Collazo but I think he looks very solid from what I saw against Mosley and Hatton. Then again I honestly think that Berto is boxing's next big thing and with some improvement could easily be a future p4p king.
So I was thinking will Berto have what it takes to KO Collazo?
I voted no by the way!
no highly doubt it.. in fact i consider this to be a very dangerous fight for Berto.
Totally agree!Quote:
Originally Posted by gudnite vienna
no is my answer
I voted yes, Berto's speed and accumalitive strength will take out Collazo in late rounds.
Berto is good, but Collazo is a tough nut. He will go 12 rounds. Im curious to know what Collazo has though, if in decent condition, he could cause Berto a problem or two on the way. Going on recent showings its Berto's fight though.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Tough to tell really, anything can happen in Boxing.. Berto has improved everytime out and has showed new wrinkles in his game each time..
Cotto caught the same scrutiny during his rise, and showed the improvement along the way... Berto will beat Collazzo either way and will still get knocked for it
The question should be, "Will Berto beat Collazo?" That's not a guarantee. No, he won't KO him. He might beat him, but he won't KO him.Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
I agree that Collazo is tough, but Berto is going to overwhelm him down the stretch. Collazo is not fast enough to foil the attack, nor does he have any fire power to make Berto think twice about the onslaught.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesBerto is good, but Collazo is a tough nut. He will go 12 rounds. Im curious to know what Collazo has though, if in decent condition, he could cause Berto a problem or two on the way. Going on recent showings its Berto's fight though.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Ko i'm not sure...but he will stop collazo or at least come damn near trying. Sucks cause i like luis
I think a lot of people are giving Collazo way too big of a chance here. I may not have seen Collazo fight all that much but I think Berto will come away with a somewhat easy win here. I always thought Berto needed to up his level of opposition to convince me of him. Collazo isn't all that much a step up, he's is known so at least it's a step in the right direction...
No, Berto wont even beat collazo
Collazo is a good solid fighter that can be very dangerous i wouldnt be surprised if he takes a points win.
Collazo can spoil a bit in fights, he had success against Hatton because Ricky had to come to him (that and he's a southpaw). Collazo has shown in past fights specifically against Cassiani and Mosley he doesn't do well against right hooks and uppercuts when thrown with speed. Berto's special move the right hook, right upper combo is going to be devastating in this fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-Lo
No, I can't see Berto stopping Collazo, but I think the people who are saying Collazo will win are crazy. He has a low output, he's very fast, but still slower than Berto, he has virtually no power, and he isn't as good of a boxer as Berto or as hard to hit.
I think Collazo could do well for the first few rounds, like you said he is reasonably fast and he is a southpaw. As the fight wears on though he is sure to slow down as Berto picks up the pace. I'm actually looking forward to this fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
A Berto KO of Collazo? It's possible, but I wouldn't bet on it. I agree that Berto should win this fight, but I also agree that Collazo is a fighter who shouldn't be taken lightly. I think he is a very solid test for Berto at this point, an excellent gauge of how Berto is developing. I think Berto wins on points, but I won't be putting any money on this one.
Agreed, I think Berto's power & speed will get to Collazo. I think he will stop him in the last 2 rounds, although I wouldn't be surprised if Collazo can take it the distance, but I just don't see him having as good chin as Forbes, I think if Hatton drops him then Berto will as well ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheepCollazo can spoil a bit in fights, he had success against Hatton because Ricky had to come to him (that and he's a southpaw). Collazo has shown in past fights specifically against Cassiani and Mosley he doesn't do well against right hooks and uppercuts when thrown with speed. Berto's special move the right hook, right upper combo is going to be devastating in this fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-Lo
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Originally Posted by littlebif
Collazo is a durable capable fighter but Id be surprised if he beat Berto .
Andre boxes abit like Sugar Shane did. He has got more to his game than Luis and hes still improving . Berto points or late stoppage .
Berto is much more of a pure boxer than Shane, Even though he is faster than Shane ever was, he uses his shoulders better for defense, he has a way better jab and cross, the only worry for me is that he has that tendency to stand in the pocket and he is no Floyd Mayweather, nor does he have Shane's chin.
..Hatton shouldnt have been given the knockdown and the hatton fight is not a good reference against collazo when were talking about maybe get late stoppages, lol.. lou nearly got himself one..Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinAgreed, I think Berto's power & speed will get to Collazo. I think he will stop him in the last 2 rounds, although I wouldn't be surprised if Collazo can take it the distance, but I just don't see him having as good chin as Forbes, I think if Hatton drops him then Berto will as well ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheepCollazo can spoil a bit in fights, he had success against Hatton because Ricky had to come to him (that and he's a southpaw). Collazo has shown in past fights specifically against Cassiani and Mosley he doesn't do well against right hooks and uppercuts when thrown with speed. Berto's special move the right hook, right upper combo is going to be devastating in this fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-Lo
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Originally Posted by Taeth
I dont think Berto is a squick as Shane was when he was a lightweight. That speed was unrivalled
Berto is a cross between Shane and Floyd . What a mix!
I don't understand why Hatton shouldn't have been given the KD, yes Collazo was slightly off-balance but that doesn't change the fact that he still went down from a Hatton punch, & I'd say Berto hits a lot harder. Also yes whilst Collazo did well late on against Hatton, part of that can be attributed to the fact Hatton tried too hard to go for the kill after knocking Collazo down & tired himself out, a mistake I don't think Berto will make if he does drop Collazo earlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Tito BHB..Hatton shouldnt have been given the knockdown and the hatton fight is not a good reference against collazo when were talking about maybe get late stoppages, lol.. lou nearly got himself one..Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinAgreed, I think Berto's power & speed will get to Collazo. I think he will stop him in the last 2 rounds, although I wouldn't be surprised if Collazo can take it the distance, but I just don't see him having as good chin as Forbes, I think if Hatton drops him then Berto will as well ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Compare there respective competition and records and I would say no.
I can though see one of those powerful, counterpunching combinations of Bertos catching Collazo by surprise and Ko'ing him.
A hunch and most of my hunches lately have been wrong.;)
oh yeah no question berto hits harder, his workrate is slower and more deliberate, i havent seen him tire himself out asyet, hes a good boxer so if he is to catch collazo he has more chance then hatton as hes much cleaner a boxer puncher..Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkinI don't understand why Hatton shouldn't have been given the KD, yes Collazo was slightly off-balance but that doesn't change the fact that he still went down from a Hatton punch, & I'd say Berto hits a lot harder. Also yes whilst Collazo did well late on against Hatton, part of that can be attributed to the fact Hatton tried too hard to go for the kill after knocking Collazo down & tired himself out, a mistake I don't think Berto will make if he does drop Collazo earlyQuote:
Originally Posted by Tito BHB..Hatton shouldnt have been given the knockdown and the hatton fight is not a good reference against collazo when were talking about maybe get late stoppages, lol.. lou nearly got himself one..Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
the knockdown is a judgement call but for me.. It wasnt a knockdown and should have been a deciding factor in the fight but the scorecards were off anyway..
But no worries .. its not happeninggg ;D Louie is bringing it homee :cool:
No, I'm still not sold on Berto especially his power. I can't wait for Cotto to get a shot at him!
Collazo can be a cutie,shifty southpaw but not a big banger.Id phrase it can Berto defeat Collazo let alone by KO.If Berto goes in there focusing on eye cartching fireworks he may find himself in deep waters down the stretch I believe.
If Berto gets him,I think it will be early off fast combos when both are fresh...and a bit cold. I was not impressed with Berto late vs. Forbes.He got sucked into playing the waiting and posturing game with him,falling in,eye catching flurries and then holding and I think he was looking for some wind in spots...just a little.Am VERY glad to see his handlers putting him in with a legit top tenish type,Nice step up and will answer some big questions.
I actually like Collazo in this fight. Berto isn't that good and Collazo(If he stays focused ) just mite be the guy who exposes Berto's chinks. Collazo is a big Welter and Berto is a small welter. Berto's defense also sucks and will get hit. No way will Berto KO Collazo but it ite be the other way around.
Collazo is massively overatted. He'll go the distance but he'll get dominated.
Berto wins at least 8 rounds out of 12 imo.
He handspeed is, and he footspeed is quicker at welterweight. Mosley wasn't as fast as Jones or Gamboa, or Meldrick p4p.Quote:
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Originally Posted by Taeth
I dont think Berto is a squick as Shane was when he was a lightweight. That speed was unrivalled
Berto is a cross between Shane and Floyd . What a mix!
Personally I think that Berto beats Cotto, especially if they meet in a couple of years when Andre's had chance to round his game off some more!Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Hell No. But I got Berto by UD.