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AWESOME for Jim Rice, what a player! He's going in with Ricky "Ricky Be Ricky" Henderson. I think Jim Rice has always deserved to be in the Hall, I'm happy he's finally in and soon we'll see #14 hanging next to 9, 8, 1, 6, 4, 27 and 42 out in right field
Good for Rice.
Freakin Ricky "And now I am the greatest of all time" Henderson. What a self aggrandizing hot dog he was. I can't wait to hear his acceptance speech. The Roy Jones Jr of baseball. :rolleyes:
Oh Ricky was HILARIOUS....he talked to himself and about himself in the 3rd person, one of his teammates heard him as he was walking away from the plate after a strikeout "It's ok Ricky, you'll get 'em next time Ricky"
Ricky even saw John Olerud and said "Hey I once had a teammate in Seattle who wore a helmet out in the field".....and Olerud said "Yeah that was me"...hahaha you can't make that shit up man
I think it's time they stopped retiring numbers.. unless the person is arguably the greatest ever... like Gretzky or Jordan. They'll eventually run out of numbers. In stead, they should put the jersey out there with his name on it.
Im glad Rice has finally gotten in,but for owner collusion he would have had that one last year and had automatic numbers.
Now if Blyleven will finally get in,4th all time on strikeouts,best curveball anyone has ever seen,287 wins on some of the worst teams in baseball history......
Hey buddy retiring numbers is good AND you only retire the numbers worn by players who spent the majority of their great career in one place for example TED WILLIAMS and YAZ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Von Milash
Anywho even the Celtics and Yankees haven't retired ALL the numbers.
Ricky was the man. I think there was one where Ricky was calling some one on the phone. "This is Ricky on behalf of Ricky".Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Eventually they'll run out of numbers. Honor the MAN, not the number.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleHey buddy retiring numbers is good AND you only retire the numbers worn by players who spent the majority of their great career in one place for example TED WILLIAMS and YAZ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Von Milash
Anywho even the Celtics and Yankees haven't retired ALL the numbers.
Bert Blyleven was good, but how many all star appearances did he make? 2. How many Cy Youngs did he win? 0. How many MVPs did he win? 0. And how is he better than Jack Morris? At least Morris has appeared in 5 ASGs.
Now I'm not saying leave him out, but I don't think he's a no brainer, either.
Jack Morris, yeah. His 7th game performance in the 1991 world series for the Twins had to be one of the greatest of all time, probably the highlite of his career. Morris starts and pitches into extra innings as the Twins win 1-0. Awesome game. Then Toronto signs him to a big fat contract and he gets two more world series rings in 92 and 93. He was kind of scary for the Jays though. 1992 he goes 21-6 with an over 4 era, and incredible run support. Disaster waiting to happen. He got blown away in the playoffs that year, and didn't do much of anything the following year, spent the 93 playoffs on the bench. Did one more year in the majors with Cleveland and retired.Quote:
Originally Posted by Von MilashEventually they'll run out of numbers. Honor the MAN, not the number.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleHey buddy retiring numbers is good AND you only retire the numbers worn by players who spent the majority of their great career in one place for example TED WILLIAMS and YAZ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Von Milash
Anywho even the Celtics and Yankees haven't retired ALL the numbers.
Bert Blyleven was good, but how many all star appearances did he make? 2. How many Cy Youngs did he win? 0. How many MVPs did he win? 0. And how is he better than Jack Morris? At least Morris has appeared in 5 ASGs.
Now I'm not saying leave him out, but I don't think he's a no brainer, either.
Rickey is one of my fav ball players of all time. Him and Tony Fernandez. Rickey is one of the best of all time imo.
Henderson was probably the best leadoff hitter ever. You have to give him credit. He sure loved to hot dog it against a catcher who was a little slow off the mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by wesrman
Tony Fernandez was awesome when he was with the Jays. Definitely underrated. Amazing defense, and great batting average. He had some nasty injuries though, like breaking his elbow at exhibition stadium, and taking a fastball in the cheek.
I'd take a 1980s Fernandez over almost anyone at shortstop, and that includes Cal Ripken.
Ya Tony and Ozzie Smith are the best of all time imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by CGMHenderson was probably the best leadoff hitter ever. You have to give him credit. He sure loved to hot dog it against a catcher who was a little slow off the mark.Quote:
Originally Posted by wesrman
Tony Fernandez was awesome when he was with the Jays. Definitely underrated. Amazing defense, and great batting average. He had some nasty injuries though, like breaking his elbow at exhibition stadium, and taking a fastball in the cheek.
I'd take a 1980s Fernandez over almost anyone at shortstop, and that includes Cal Ripken.
Blyleven 287 career wins 3701 Strikeouts Career 3.31 ERAQuote:
Originally Posted by Von MilashEventually they'll run out of numbers. Honor the MAN, not the number.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleHey buddy retiring numbers is good AND you only retire the numbers worn by players who spent the majority of their great career in one place for example TED WILLIAMS and YAZ.Quote:
Originally Posted by Von Milash
Anywho even the Celtics and Yankees haven't retired ALL the numbers.
Bert Blyleven was good, but how many all star appearances did he make? 2. How many Cy Youngs did he win? 0. How many MVPs did he win? 0. And how is he better than Jack Morris? At least Morris has appeared in 5 ASGs.
Now I'm not saying leave him out, but I don't think he's a no brainer, either.
Morris 254 career wins 2478 Strikeouts Career 3.90
If Blyleven hadnt spent those years with the Twins,we wouldnt even be discussing this
To me Tony Fernandez and Willie McGee are 2 of Baseballs most underrated players. Both were outstanding playersQuote:
Originally Posted by wesrman
Another guy i liked back then was Lenny Dykstra.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseTo me Tony Fernandez and Willie McGee are 2 of Baseballs most underrated players. Both were outstanding playersQuote:
Originally Posted by wesrman
Dykstra was into steroids big time.Quote:
Originally Posted by wesrmanAnother guy i liked back then was Lenny Dykstra.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseTo me Tony Fernandez and Willie McGee are 2 of Baseballs most underrated players. Both were outstanding playersQuote:
Originally Posted by wesrman
Lenny is now some big time stock guru.
And his former battery mate Dutch Daulton is a complete mental caseQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Darren Dalton was one of my favorites but he had one too many concussions.Quote:
Originally Posted by Trainer MonkeyAnd his former battery mate Dutch Daulton is a complete mental caseQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Bill Lee was a great one....the "Spaceman" ate marijuana pancakes, hahaha
Tony Vernanay was one of the greatest, most graceful shortstops of all time.
And one of the greatest 2nd basemen ever turned double plays with him, Robbie Alomar.
I used to think Robbie was a shoe in for Cooperstown. But the spitting incident forever tarnished his image. Does he get left out because of that?
Naw I think he gets inQuote:
Originally Posted by Von Milash
Don't know Vernanay. I guess you mean Fernandez? As far as I know, the only time he teamed with Alomar was for the last half of the 1993 season. But yeah, what a combo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Von Milash
Alomar was a great player. That was quite a trade back in the day. Fernandez and Fred McGriff to San Diego for Alomar and Joe Carter.
Alomar will get inQuote:
Originally Posted by Von Milash
CGM, yes. that's Fernandez. The way I've written it is the way tony himself pronounces it.