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Ive been thinking about the Barrera - Khan fight and im struggling to think of many examples of an older smaller fighter moving up in weight to beat a bigger younger boxer?
I can think of Hopkins - Tarver and Mosley - Oscar but can you guys think of any to put my mind at rest?
Leonard - Lalonde.
Hopkins-Pavlik
James Toney-Samuel PEter I
The first thing that came to my mind thinking of a hyped UK weak chinned fighter with a KO loss taking on a smaller older fighter.....
Pele Reid Vs Orlin Norris
Norris won via KO in the first as will Barrera ;)
yep if the smaller Gomez and Limond could rock him badly, Barrera will spank him good!
Holyfield v Bowe 2
Duran-Barkley
Yeah I remember that 1. Pele acted very strangely when he got hit he gets Danny Williams legs. Pele was losing focus too cuz he started saeeing his new bird and after that he was bringing his baby to the gym. He never had the resistance to reach domestic level. I honestly think this might be a 1 rounder too which may surprise some people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
TAETH - Pavlik was moving up two divisions to fight Hopkins and Toney didnt beat Peter so those two dont really count IMO.
Tony Lopez TKO 11 Joey Gamache,man that was funny;D
I suppose Roy Jones beating John Ruiz would count mate.....Quote:
Originally Posted by GAME
As far as height goes yes, Pav is taller but as far as body frame Hopkins is def. bigger. also Pavlik moved up in weight. In these cases the smaller guy is moving up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Was the 1st one that came to mind...Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Lopez beating Grisby quickly comes to mind...
Olivares beating Chacon sparked him out...
You can also add JMM beating Juan Diaz soon to the list. ;)
JMM might be slightly taller but he's def. smaller in body.
Pavlik was still bigger, Hopkins stayed at middleweight until he was 40, Pavlik won't be able to that because his body is bigger, he is taller by a bit, and broader.Quote:
Originally Posted by GAMEYeah I remember that 1. Pele acted very strangely when he got hit he gets Danny Williams legs. Pele was losing focus too cuz he started saeeing his new bird and after that he was bringing his baby to the gym. He never had the resistance to reach domestic level. I honestly think this might be a 1 rounder too which may surprise some people.Quote:
Originally Posted by Saddo
TAETH - Pavlik was moving up two divisions to fight Hopkins and Toney didnt beat Peter so those two dont really count IMO.
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I say 35 year old Gerry "FEARLESS" Peñalosa chopped down 26 year old Jhonny Gonzales ...
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29 Year old Tito Trinidad's 3rd fight at 154 (He had 33 fights at 147 or below ) was againts 24 year old Fernando Vargas who is defending his title for the 7th time.
Hopkins v Tarver might have been a better one.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMickAs far as height goes yes, Pav is taller but as far as body frame Hopkins is def. bigger. also Pavlik moved up in weight. In these cases the smaller guy is moving up.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
Also Toney v Jirov.
Actually the thread is a bit misleading. I mean I guess in such a case as this you automatically think of world title bouts and maybe it doesn't happen much at that level.
But this fight is a 3 weight world champ, a boxing legend, one of the greatest featherweights of all time and still only 34 fighting a prospect with a known weak chin who was KO'd in 1 round just two fights ago and who has never faced anyone remotely world class.
Barrera has to be favourite in this fight imo, for Khan to beat Barrera would be a massive upset. He got destroyed by Breidas Prescott, dropped and rocked by Michael Gomez and dropped by Willie Limond.
It really doesn't bode well for Khan imo, especially as there's been no real hint of a Barrera decline. He lost a close and controversial decision to J M Marquez, the world's second best fighter, and floored him and then lost a competitive 12 rounder to the world's best fighter.
This is no Eric Morales or Roy Jones Jr, he's still very very very dangerous, and still only 34 remember.
Yes he's slowed slightly, and yes he's smaller but he's still WAY better competition than Amir has ever faced before and for me it's hard to see how Amir can win this, he'll have to box a perfect fight in my opinion, something that he has never done before up to now.
You have to fancy Barrera in this one I think, even though I'll be cheering and rooting for young Amir, I think he's one gutsy kid for taking this challenge after such a devastating KO loss.
Hopkins-Tarver
Hopkins-Pavlik
Hopkins was not the smaller man in either of thaose fights. He looked strong as f@ck. I remember how surprised I was when he fought Tarver he looked like he could have fought at that weight for years, hell he could have gone up to light heavyweight in the late 90s early 2000s
Roy Jones Jr beating Ruiz
B-Hop beating Tarver
Barrera beating Hamed.
Werent they both 27?Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
Saying that Barrera did move up to beat the younger Morales at featherweight and he did it again at superfeatherweight.
Barrera is one month older lolQuote:
Originally Posted by GAMEWerent they both 27?Quote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
Saying that Barrera did move up to beat the younger Morales at featherweight and he did it again at superfeatherweight.