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Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
Joe Calzaghe(46-0-32Ko's) is an undefeated Welsh professional boxer.He is rated by Ring Magazine as pound for pound,one of the top 10 boxers in the world.Calzaghe holds notable wins over Chris Eubank,Jeff Lacy,Mikkel Kessler,Bernard Hopkins and Roy Jones Jr.Chad Dawson(27-0-17Ko's) is the current IBO and IBF light heavyweight champion who previously defeated Antonio Tarver, and After Calzaghe declined Dawson's offer is set for a rematch with Tarver on March 14.If The fight were to Happen Could Joe Pull out another Win for the last time? Or would the Welsh SuperStar Retire with the first loss of his career?
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
i think it would be a close fight
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
I think so, He is bigger, a little faster, and hits more solidly. Also unlike Calzaghe's last two opponents, he really can go to war, and doesn't mind taking a punch to land a punch.
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
i believe that calzaghe is unbeatable when hes on top of his game.e.g work rate, awkward style, punch output and granite chin
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
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paddy448
i believe that calzaghe is unbeatable when hes on top of his game.e.g work rate, awkward style, punch output and granite chin
that would be a great fight
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
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paddy448
i believe that calzaghe is unbeatable when hes on top of his game.e.g work rate, awkward style, punch output and granite chin
Granite chins don't get put down or hurt several times like he was against Kessler and Hopkins. He definitely is hard to beat, but not unbeatable. Against Dawson he would finally be facing guy with a good output of his own, a faster guy who also likes to stamp his dominance on a fight. The days of Roy or Hopkins stamping their dominance on fights was long over, Chad will take Joe's punches and punch back, and do excellent work to the body. I think its close to a toss up fight.
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
of course chad could win, he is in his prime, at the top of his game and has a lot of talent.
But as long as Calzaghe could keep coming at him all night taking him out of his zone, i think calzaghe would win. Could be close at this point though.
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
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Taeth
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Originally Posted by
paddy448
i believe that calzaghe is unbeatable when hes on top of his game.e.g work rate, awkward style, punch output and granite chin
Granite chins don't get put down or hurt several times like he was against Kessler and Hopkins. He definitely is hard to beat, but not unbeatable. Against Dawson he would finally be facing guy with a good output of his own, a faster guy who also likes to stamp his dominance on a fight. The days of Roy or Hopkins stamping their dominance on fights was long over, Chad will take Joe's punches and punch back, and do excellent work to the body. I think its close to a toss up fight.
i agree with u on all this,dawsons a good fighter ,for me tho calzaghe takes it in a tough competative fight.
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
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Preme
of course chad could win, he is in his prime, at the top of his game and has a lot of talent.
But as long as Calzaghe could keep coming at him all night taking him out of his zone, i think calzaghe would win. Could be close at this point though.
yeagh i see what your saying
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
I think Dawson could win, but Calzaghe has proved me wrong before! This would be a great fight & I'd love to see it before Calzaghe retired.
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
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Taeth
Against Dawson he would finally be facing guy with a good output of his own, a faster guy who also likes to stamp his dominance on a fight.
Youv got to be joking?
Putting his ear muffs on, leaning back on the ropes and letting Tarver walk him down?
He couldnt live with Calzaghes pace, he may be bigger and stronger but no way he could work with Joe:rolleyes:;D
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
Title: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
Of course he can. Anyone on a given night can beat Joe.
But thus far 46 have tried and 46 have failed.
BCD does A LOT of things that would help make the fight easy for Joe to win. Sitting on the ropes absorbing punches and taking breaks and rounds off can and will only benifit Joe and give him momentum not only of the crowd but the judges.
Joes maturity and more experience would be also a factor. On the other hand you have BCD who can show at times maturity and then turn around and let himself get caught with silly shots.
I don't want to start with the "IFs" and the "Buts" so I wont.
BCDs a talented kid, have followed his career since early on I've seen him turn into what he's become. I think technically he's superior then Joe and he's more in tune as far as combinations with power go.
I would love to see it happened that's for sure...
If I had to pick a winner I'd def. side with my boy BCD. I know the kids got the tools to beat him but his mentality is frustrating to me, I hope only with time he changes that.
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
Ooooh, how I wish to see this happen, but I doubt Joe will ever take such a risky fight !
He knows he could lose in this one. ;D
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
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iwng100
Ooooh, how I wish to see this happen, but I doubt Joe will ever take such a risky fight !
He knows he could lose in this one. ;D
As of Joe would have the stones to take this fight. I would favor Dawson. Calzaghe has never faced anybody with the talent, skill, and size of Dawson. I can see Dawson putting Joe down several times in the fight.
Dawson put on the earmuffs to rope a dope Tarver. Unlike Calzaghe, Tarver is actually a dangerous puncher and Chad needed to be sure he didn't get caught with Tarver's good shot.
Joe's workrate would keep the fight close, but Dawson would hit Joe with many, many meaningful punches. Whereas Hopkins was throwing one at a time, Dawson would be returning fire with HARD combinations. Calzaghe nearly lost to 'Nard with Hopkins throwing one punch at a time. With Dawson answering with fast, hard, accurate combos, Joe would be in trouble.
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
Joes seen it all before and id also bet that Kessler is a bigger puncher than Dawson, hes certainly a bigger puncher at super middle than Dawson is at light heavy and Joe took his shots fine.
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
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iwng100
Ooooh, how I wish to see this happen, but I doubt Joe will ever take such a risky fight !
He knows he could lose in this one. ;D
this would be fight of the year
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
If Calzaghe decides to have another fight I'd like it to be either Dawson or a rematch with Hopkins! I'm good with either.
Both guys pose different threats & what a way for Calzaghe to end his career by fighting the best available, not a washed up Jones! IMO that fight was pointless!!!
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
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ross
Joes seen it all before and id also bet that Kessler is a bigger puncher than Dawson, hes certainly a bigger puncher at super middle than Dawson is at light heavy and Joe took his shots fine.
Even if that is true, which I don't think it is, Dawson has far better handspeed and better variety of punches. He hits hard enough to hurt Adamek, who is a pretty tough customer, and Dawson is certain to be able to hit Calzaghe much more often and more cleanly than Kessler because of speed and combination punching.
I'm sure at some point you've actually made a valid point about a Calzaghe matchup. Not this time.
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
Calzaghe wants nothing to do with Dawson
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
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RozzySean
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iwng100
Ooooh, how I wish to see this happen, but I doubt Joe will ever take such a risky fight !
He knows he could lose in this one. ;D
As of Joe would have the stones to take this fight. I would favor Dawson. Calzaghe has never faced anybody with the talent, skill, and size of Dawson. I can see Dawson putting Joe down several times in the fight.
Dawson put on the earmuffs to rope a dope Tarver. Unlike Calzaghe, Tarver is actually a dangerous puncher and Chad needed to be sure he didn't get caught with Tarver's good shot.
Joe's workrate would keep the fight close, but Dawson would hit Joe with many, many meaningful punches. Whereas Hopkins was throwing one at a time, Dawson would be returning fire with HARD combinations. Calzaghe nearly lost to 'Nard with Hopkins throwing one punch at a time. With Dawson answering with fast, hard, accurate combos, Joe would be in trouble.
Excellent analysis.
Needless to say, I agree 100%
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
It would be a close fight very risky for Calzaghe it would be good for his legacy if he won a young fighter that is in his prime.IMO Joe would just edge it.His awkardness would be key and he can change strategy in mid round thats why i give him a slight edge.
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
I think Joe C. would edge it as well. Chad Dawson had trouble with Glen johnson, another awkward fighter, who is not as gifted as Joe C. I think it would be competitive, but another UD for Joe to slap on his belt.
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
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belakbox
I think Joe C. would edge it as well. Chad Dawson had trouble with Glen johnson, another awkward fighter, who is not as gifted as Joe C. I think it would be competitive, but another UD for Joe to slap on his belt.
I actually think Glen is much underrated; maybe he’s not as gifted as Joe but he definitively hits harder than him. I remember Chad won clearly the early rounds but after that he was slowed down not just by the pressure that Glen putted on him but by his powerful punches too IMO.
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
No,Dawson is just a US overrated bum like Lacy
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
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jangeorg
No,Dawson is just a US overrated bum like Lacy
LOL, your brave;D
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
If Chad has the chance to beat Joe,he'll have to figt really smart and use different tactics through each round if he stands any chance of beating Joe.We all know Calzaghe has'nt got the K.O punch anymore,but by god he has speed,a never ending engine,tonnes of desire,a great great chin and a brilliant boxing brain to match!!It would be great if this fight could get made.Calzaghe would be my bet,apart from the lack of K.O punch power the guy has the full package to be unstoppable!!
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
Dawson struggled to get past Glen Johnson. He wasn't much better than Tarver. He'd have his moments in the fight but Calzaghe would win fairly easily.
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
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Kirkland Laing
Dawson struggled to get past Glen Johnson. He wasn't much better than Tarver. He'd have his moments in the fight but Calzaghe would win fairly easily.
Johnson is a quality fighter, he's only been blown out once and that was against a prime B-Hop.
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
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killersheep
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Kirkland Laing
Dawson struggled to get past Glen Johnson. He wasn't much better than Tarver. He'd have his moments in the fight but Calzaghe would win fairly easily.
Johnson is a quality fighter, he's only been blown out once and that was against a prime B-Hop.
I'm not saying he isn't but he isn't in the same league as Calzaghe.
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
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Kirkland Laing
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killersheep
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Kirkland Laing
Dawson struggled to get past Glen Johnson. He wasn't much better than Tarver. He'd have his moments in the fight but Calzaghe would win fairly easily.
Johnson is a quality fighter, he's only been blown out once and that was against a prime B-Hop.
I'm not saying he isn't but he isn't in the same league as Calzaghe.
Well I can tell you this much no way we ever find out.
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
...of course he can. Joe being able to rely on using his instincts and movement to dodge punches and frustrate guys works pretty damn good against these older guys who themselves are not slow or old so much as they are getting slower and older. It's shown it's head twice in a row with joe being caught and knocked down twice in the first. Even joe himself stated he is much better fighter with his hands down and loose against these last two guys. But chad isn't a star of the past on his way down he a guy trying to be a star and is on his way up. Chad is faster younger and stronger when chad catches him it will be a whole different thing joe's instincts are no where near chad's speed and power at this point. Now who is the better fighter overall both at thier primes i dunno i'd probably pick joe but now it's not even a question at least in my mind. I feel sorry a bit for joe cause he does deserve the respect he's looking for but his time to get it has passed. It would have been an impressive run beating b-hop and jones some years back...anyhow if the fight was today joe would get beat and it really shouldn't take away from all the wins he does have....but it would and like stated above we will never find out.
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Re: Can Chad Dawson beat Joe Calzaghe?
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killersheep
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Originally Posted by
Kirkland Laing
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killersheep
Johnson is a quality fighter, he's only been blown out once and that was against a prime B-Hop.
I'm not saying he isn't but he isn't in the same league as Calzaghe.
Well I can tell you this much no way we ever find out.
If they fought it'd be another Lacy-style massacre.
