What's up with that? Some kind of padding that harders in his wraps when wet? They made him rewrap before the fight. like 3 times...
Never heard of it before. Anyone else?
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What's up with that? Some kind of padding that harders in his wraps when wet? They made him rewrap before the fight. like 3 times...
Never heard of it before. Anyone else?
Trinidad, I know Hopkins made sure his corner watched Tito wrap his hands because he was using something in his glove to make his punches harder... not htat he needed to... Margarito is getting absolutely outmuscled, outpunched.
Without your cheating hand wraps Tony, you aint shiet!
Thank you FHUCKING shane for exposing the cheater!Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
did he use those in the Cotto fight?? im not sure
That is such a shame, doubt is now going to be cast over all his big wins.
Wait a second here, didn't Mosley use illegal substance(s) against Oscar in 2003?Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_GThank you FHUCKING shane for exposing the cheater!Quote:
Originally Posted by Danny_G
What a piece of shit.
So he was probably hitting Cotto with concrete gloves. No wonder he dismantled him so badly.
Like Taeth said, the only fight I seen this happen on is Trinidad vs Bhop. But shame on Margarito for cheating.Quote:
Originally Posted by Youngblood
yup. and you know what...rightfully so. Hard plastic they are now saying, inserted into the wraps. You would think there should be some sort of penalty for that...as in, say a big monetary penalty. Don`t you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
One would assume.Quote:
Originally Posted by Youngbloodyup. and you know what...rightfully so. Hard plastic they are now saying, inserted into the wraps. You would think there should be some sort of penalty for that...as in, say a big monetary penalty. Don`t you think.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Take your wind up ass somewhere else.........Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffP4PLacy
With out the plaster of Pariz, Cotto takes Tony to school every round just like Mosley did.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffP4PLacy
Phuking shame on Tony Margashieto, what a motha phuker he is. I hope he get's run over by a truck, a giant truck. Wait! Not until Miguel Cotto gets his revenge over that cheating paisa.
What about his wins over Cintron?
Cintron has to be pissed and is probably saying no wonder this biatch beat me too.
But can you really question it ? if Antonio Margarito was going to cheat in this fight, what makes you so sure he wouldn't of in any of his other fights ?Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxerTake your wind up ass somewhere else.........Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffP4PLacy
I liked Antonio Margarito but sorry i can't forget this, thats disgusting IMO. Antonio Margarito should be fined and banned from boxing for whatever amount of time.
Article reveals plaster in both of Tony's gloves :mad:
Margarito trying to plaster Mosley? | The Fabulous Forum | Los Angeles Times
Phuk you Tony, I hope you get fined a few MILLION dollars for this.
That he even attempted the shit is fucked up, but quite honestly I don't think it had much to do with his victory over cotto and loss to shane. Cotto was getting hit with those upercuts from round 2 on in their fight, shane barely got hit clean in this fight at all. Shane is just more durable than cotto and had a much better gameplan than cotto did. Who knows though certainly casts some doubt...
if he really did use plaster isnt that shit like a felony?
I agree, and echo the same sentiments, of course the rematch has lost some shine for me, now that their both limping in fuked up and broken to piecesQuote:
Originally Posted by armin
Thanks for the rep. Jaah the rematch between cotto and margo certainly has lost some of its glamuour, but I think it's the best fight out there for them at the moment, unless shane wants to fight cotto again. Wow shane though and wish this whole hand casting thing wouldn't diminish his victory.
Don't make it out like he has been doing it his whole career, thats bs to just assume without proof. All the people he fights have the same opportunity to watch the hands being wrapped.
How the hell is Danny using 2 accounts at once:confused:;D
Yeah,shame on the inspectors and officials in past fights for the over sight:rolleyes:....bunch o' fawking glory hole hype if you ask me.What a coencidence it broke exactly at the opening bell tonight.So what are we doing...paving a path to Cotto/Mosley II......Put money on that one coming off :bucktooth:.
Dam it! How many times is the favored guy going to loose? Want the hell is wrong with these guys who cheat at this level? Look what Freddy Roach had to do with De La Hoya wrapping in extra nuckles! And now a guy that has all the advantages doing some of the same s**t.... I'm glad Mosley kicked his ass. I hate f**kn' cheating bastards...
People don't usually just start doing things like that. Cheating is something that people usually do until they can't get away with it. Nazeem was also in Hopkins' corner when Trinidad was forced to change his handwraps.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
Total non-sequitar Spicoli, but for the first time in my life I am about to live in a state other than our's. I sadly will soon be moving to Little Cock,AR.Quote:
Originally Posted by Spicoli surfs 'Nawlins
He paid the price if he did cheat. What a way to pay.
Unfortunately, we can not prove it but now you and I and the rest of the boxing world know what time it is with Phoney Margacheato. With out the plaster laced wraps, Tony get's owned by Miguel. I can't wait for the rematch and I think Cintron would like another crack at Phoney now that he knows something we did not know about Phoney before.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffP4PLacy
Sorry to be the voice of dissent - but can we wait for proof of what the stuff actually was before we completely assassinate somebody's character on here?
I mean, with all the officials and the opposing camp observing the wrapping, you'd have to be pretty fucking stupid to try and get away with anything illegal.
Tony, to my knowledge, has never been anything but a perfect gentleman or sportsperson win, lose or draw.
Yeah he should fire his corner immediately. Assuming the same thing you are assuming his corner is made of blind fools who can't be trusted with a fighter of his caliber. To let someone get in the ring against your fighter wearing a cast..shame.:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffP4PLacy
:o
No wonder poor Sebastian Lujan nearly lost an ear :o
http://www.specialized-medical.com/i...Fix-Cast_L.jpg
I love all the nicknames and think it's funny as hell, but I have to agree and will wait until it's more official before judging margarito. For now I'll accept his past victories and give him credit until it's official.
Lol
Ohh what a distortion......:-X...we all know Tony had a boxcutter tucked into the laces vs. Lujan as well ;D.Viva revisionist history?!
If confirmed Margarito should be suspended and fined heavily. There is no room in boxing for cheats. Using hardened wraps is akin to knowingly attempting manslaughter. Boxing is risky enough as it is without this kind of carry on. Makes me highly suspicious about the Cotto fight now, as well as the Cintron fights, and pretty much any fight now I come to think of it.
Im so happy Mosley did a proper number on him.
Alright i want to see solid proof on this because all i have been hearing is there might of been i want to see artical or somthing if i can have a link. Anyhow i dont think it would of change much in the Cintron or Cotto fight because they never hurt Margarito like Mosley was i mean he was hitting so hard he was wobbling all over the place not to mention his chin is better then both those guys combine tell you the truth i think Mosley hits harder then both Cotto and Cintron he is very underrated in power i mean he has knocked out guys bigger then Margarito never got why no one ever brings up the power that Shane Mosley has but after this knock out of Antino Margarito i am pretty sure no one while question the power again.
I just watched the final round of his fight with Cotto again and I saw him at the end carried by his corner raising his hands minus the gloves and I think it looks pretty normal. I don't think it would do more damage than what he inflicted on Cotto unless it was as bulgy as the one on the picture you posted. Before we conclude on the controversy and judge Tony we should also think that this wouldn't been an issue if he had won against Mosley. Marg didn't lose tonight because he didnt have those 'illegal wraps' but because Shane put on a magnificent performance. I don't think adding some plaster of paris to handwraps would increase the accuracy of your punches. Against Cotto, Tony was very efficient. Tonight he was totally out of his style because of Mosley's perfect gameplan.
Bottomline..Don't judge him. It is awful. The attempt to cheat tonight was awful. But what we saw tonight happened not because he got caught. It's because Shane Mosley is the man.
I did lose a ton of respect for Antonio Margarito TONIGHT. only the Margarito who fought TONIGHT.
Agreed. Maybe his team is really just stupid. But Margarito..the gallant warrior that he is..I don't think he is aware that he is cheating big time. I hope so. I can only hope so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Greig
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Originally Posted by the_pRoDiGy
I do agree with most of your post. This should be about Mosely's performance, as what a performance it was. He was in a zone and on his game in a way much like I saw only in my recent memory in Bhop in Bhop/Pavlik. Completely focused, firing on all cylinders and utilizing all the tools and skill that come with a long successful career.
So much kudos to Sugar Shane.
I also agree that we must first get the facts in before we start throwing stones and questioning fights prior. So let us do that.
Where I don't agree, is in suggesting that if proven, we cannot take Margarito's previous performances and look at them with a suspicious eye. Integrity is integrity. There is a reason when a cop or a prosecuting attorney is caught cheating the system to further their agenda to get a win that often previous cases are then relooked at.
The reason is that if a person is proven to have such a lack of ethics enough to cheat to further their agenda now, the chances are much higher they have had them in the past. Actions speak.
So don't blame fans of Cotto and other people Margarito has beaten for casting that suspicious eye, or even for making angered assumptions. If it is proven he cheated tonight...the person to blame for all the suspicion is Antonio Margarito, the person who wraps his hands and anyone else who may have known.
And no, if it is proven, he shouldn't in my opinion lose those past fights, unless some revelation comes out telling, proving of how he cheated then also. But he should, again, if proven...have to suffer considerable consequences for it. Monetary? I think so. A suspension? I think so. A tarnish on his legacy? Most definately.
This sport cannot afford cheating. Not in this climate where it already struggles and is competing for fans. Not from promotors. Not from judges. And most certainly...not from it's athletes.
So are we going to say that Tony used plaster on his face because Cotto's punches were as hard as pillows? Let's get confirmation about the whole plaster thing. If it turns out to be the truth then how bad for him and the sport.Quote:
With out the plaster of Pariz, Cotto takes Tony to school every round just like Mosley did.
I hope Cotto doesn't lose on June because then, what excuse will there be? First it was "Oh, Cotto lost because of his nose that was damaged...Cotto lost because his body was damaged..." all kinds of excuses. Now the plaster in his fists. I am not justifying him if it is confirmed that he used that on his fists. If he cheated, then how bad really. Bad for him and the sport.Quote:
Originally Posted by JeffP4PLacy
But, how can we explain the fact that Cotto's punches were mosquito bites on Margarito?