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If you were Cotto's closest advisor, what would you tell him now?
I was just thinking about this and wanted to see what people thought. Now that Mosley has defeated Tony, I think Cotto is in a pretty tough situation. The Tony rematch always made sense because he was basically winning the fight after the first 8 rounds but basically couldn't deal with the pressure over 12 rounds. I feel like with a change in strategy it's a winnable fight. Plus, Tony was still the kingpin of the division so winning the rematch would give Cotto back the crown.
After Tony's loss, the question is, is that even a fight that Cotto should take now? I still think Tony is one of the toughest fights at 147 for anybody. Fact of the matter is that Cotto has a decision over Mosley, should he pursue a rematch with Mosley instead, should he pursue other options like a Berto fight, like a Clottey fight? Will he have a cloud over his head until he fights Tony again? If he loses to Tony in the rematch, will he be diminished like Cintron currently is? I think Cotto has the tools to be an elite fighter but I'd hate for a second loss to Tony to ruin him mentally. What advice would yall give Cotto if you were his closest advisor?
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Re: If you were Cotto's closest advisor, what would you tell him now?
Get another gay tribal tattoo, and stay away from Tony, because the same thing will probably happen.
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defo rematch with tony asap, hell tony took a beating & cotto would at least have his fight next month to prepare but yeah get tony str8 away
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"Fire your Uncle and hire Nazim Richadson".... Unless his uncle IS his closest advisor, in which case I'd keep my mouth shut ;D
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I personally think a rematch makes sense.
It would mean avenging his only loss.
If for some reason fight Margarito can't happen, the IMO the next best thing would be a SSM rematch.
I've been saying this for a while now but I can def. see Cotto fight at 154 and would like to see him there in the future.
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IMO this rematch would be great , Cotto need to avenge this loss and to me theres no doubt that Cotto can win , is like always i said in the past , Cotto needed to make the fight that Mosley did , i don't think that Cotto is ruin mentally , he looks very confident as i see , he need a chance to luxury himself with Jenning , then we can make comments with more certainty regard of him on what going happen to next , but to me i think that Mosley could comes first then Margaro ......................
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Re: If you were Cotto's closest advisor, what would you tell him now?
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Boom Boom
"Fire your Uncle and hire Nazim Richadson".... Unless his uncle IS his closest advisor, in which case I'd keep my mouth shut ;D
this.
This win was all about good coaching and strategy for Mosely.
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ha ha ha. At first glance I thought this read "If you were Cotto's closet advisor..." :)
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Youngblood
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Boom Boom
"Fire your Uncle and hire Nazim Richadson".... Unless his uncle IS his closest advisor, in which case I'd keep my mouth shut ;D
this.
This win was all about good coaching and strategy for Mosely.
Nazim has to be the most sought-after trainer in the sport.
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Re: If you were Cotto's closest advisor, what would you tell him now?
We still don't know what Cotto has left after the beating Margarito gave him. Cotto should fight Margarito again and force himself to use the Shane strategy.
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I'd tell him to worry about the fight he has coming up and nothng else. Nothing else matters if you don't win the fights you already have.
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I'd tell him "At least you beat Mosley"
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I'd do nothing except continue to get him physically and mentally prepared for his upcoming fight at the Garden. I'd also send "subliminal" messages to him regarding the possibilty that Margo used gloves that were "tampered" with. This will help him deal with the reality of the beating he took and possibly give him the mental "edge" he needs to actually justify it. Regardless of what anyone will tell you... his confidence has been shaken and the "Hand Wrap" incident" can be used to build not only his confidence but the promotion of the potential Cotto/Margo rematch ( remember, this is a business).
Then of copurse I'd wait and see how he does in the comeback fight. If all goes according to plan. We let Bob Arum (also Margo's promoter) put together the rematch and try to insist on having it in the Garden on the eve of the Puerto Rican Day Parade.
Arum will rather keep the money in house on this one and let Mosely wait around for Hatton/Pacman hoping that Manny beats the Brit.
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most of the reason tony lost was because he couldn't hit mosley. Mosley is too good defensively. Tony got caught by a left out of left field in the eighth. Part of the reason was that mosley had Margarito pretty tired at that point with all the punches that he missed. Cotto can't make margarito miss like that. Cotto would be destroyed again.
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I would tell cotto to win his next fight, then look to berto...margo is done for a while he'll need a tune up before another big fight...
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take out berto at the equation at once...forget margarito..he can redeem himself by taking other worthy opponents like ssm and hatton
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Cotto is a great fighter. I am a big fan of Margarito also but in that match I was truly disappointed. If I was Cotto's advisor I would definitely take a re-match with Margarito and seriously study Margarito's way of fighting. I think if he did that in the first place this would of never happened. Sometimes these fighters get too cocky that they forget to truly FOCUS!!!
How funny this circle runs.
Cotto Fights Mosley. Cotto prevails.
Margarito fights Cotto. Margarito prevails.
Mosley fights margarito. Mosley Prevails.
So my opinion is this. Every man has his match. No matter how good they are they must go down once or twice. I wonder which one of these can take Pacquiaou.
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id warn him that jennings is coming over with absoloutely nothing to lose and genuinely loves to get involved in a good old fashioned scrap.
If cotto is at 50% he`ll have no worrys, any less and it could be a very tricky night for him!!!
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Fight Shane Mosley. Forget Antonio Margarito exists. If you can beat the man who beat you it's a redemption of a sort. Maybe Margarito is shot, but maybe he's not. Leapfrog him and you'll make a helluva lot more money and you can get your title back.
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awdleyfuturehalloffamer
most of the reason tony lost was because he couldn't hit mosley. Mosley is too good defensively. Tony got caught by a left out of left field in the eighth. Part of the reason was that mosley had Margarito pretty tired at that point with all the punches that he missed. Cotto can't make margarito miss like that. Cotto would be destroyed again.
It was also those skewering body punches. Did you see how Margarito almost doubled over in the first from a right hook? That's how you beat a guy with no defense. If he'll let you hit him whenever you like, hit him in the body. And Mosley puts a HUGE amount of torque in his hooks.
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focus on jennings. If he wins and looks impressive go for the Margarito rematch.
He made Margarito miss plenty through the first rounds of their fight. His mistake was not clinching and not looking for the body. He has a better chance of beating Tony now that Mosely has provided an excellent strategy.
I read they're still looking to fight Margarito in June anyway.
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belakbox
focus on jennings. If he wins and looks impressive go for the Margarito rematch.
He made Margarito miss plenty through the first rounds of their fight. His mistake was not clinching and not looking for the body. He has a better chance of beating Tony now that Mosely has provided an excellent strategy.
I read they're still looking to fight Margarito in June anyway.
Really true Belabox , probably in June 13 09 in Madison Square garden NY
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Macho
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belakbox
focus on jennings. If he wins and looks impressive go for the Margarito rematch.
He made Margarito miss plenty through the first rounds of their fight. His mistake was not clinching and not looking for the body. He has a better chance of beating Tony now that Mosely has provided an excellent strategy.
I read they're still looking to fight Margarito in June anyway.
Really true Belabox , probably in June 13 09 in Madison Square garden NY
macho!!!
My man, good to see you"!!!!
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hitmandonny
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Macho
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belakbox
focus on jennings. If he wins and looks impressive go for the Margarito rematch.
He made Margarito miss plenty through the first rounds of their fight. His mistake was not clinching and not looking for the body. He has a better chance of beating Tony now that Mosely has provided an excellent strategy.
I read they're still looking to fight Margarito in June anyway.
Really true Belabox , probably in June 13 09 in Madison Square garden NY
macho!!!
My man, good to see you"!!!!
Good to see you too m8 , Im back i hope to be more often here with all of you guys .................Saludos ;D
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Macho
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hitmandonny
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Macho
Really true Belabox , probably in June 13 09 in Madison Square garden NY
macho!!!
My man, good to see you"!!!!
Good to see you too m8 , Im back i hope to be more often here with all of you guys .................Saludos ;D
Thats great my man!
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Re: If you were Cotto's closest advisor, what would you tell him now?
Sure it was a tough fight, but before Cotto his lip cut, he was doing to Mosley exactly what Mosley was doing to Margarito, and that was imposing his will on Shane. He was landing way more hard punches than Shane, it Mosley's head not his that was being snapped back. IMO he should fight Shane again his timing, tricky speed, and fundamentals makes this a fight he should be favored to win again.
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awdleyfuturehalloffamer
most of the reason tony lost was because he couldn't hit mosley. Mosley is too good defensively. Tony got caught by a left out of left field in the eighth. Part of the reason was that mosley had Margarito pretty tired at that point with all the punches that he missed. Cotto can't make margarito miss like that. Cotto would be destroyed again.
It was also those skewering body punches. Did you see how Margarito almost doubled over in the first from a right hook? That's how you beat a guy with no defense. If he'll let you hit him whenever you like, hit him in the body. And Mosley puts a HUGE amount of torque in his hooks.
I never saw Magarito almost double over from any body blows, Shane definitely landed a few hard right hooks, but they were no JLC or Cotto left hook type blows to the body.
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Taeth
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Killface
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awdleyfuturehalloffamer
most of the reason tony lost was because he couldn't hit mosley. Mosley is too good defensively. Tony got caught by a left out of left field in the eighth. Part of the reason was that mosley had Margarito pretty tired at that point with all the punches that he missed. Cotto can't make margarito miss like that. Cotto would be destroyed again.
It was also those skewering body punches. Did you see how Margarito almost doubled over in the first from a right hook? That's how you beat a guy with no defense. If he'll let you hit him whenever you like, hit him in the body. And Mosley puts a HUGE amount of torque in his hooks.
I never saw Magarito almost double over from any body blows, Shane definitely landed a few hard right hooks, but they were no JLC or Cotto left hook type blows to the body.
If you watch Shane at Lightweight and his earliest Welter days, he was actually a far superior bodypuncher than either of the above.
He dismantled Rivera with bodyshots, a man who had never been stopped by any Welter.....in his first fight at 147!
taeth, have a look at some of his LW fights = beautiful body punching!!!
You'll love it!