Strong words but some valid points...
Boxing: Eubank: I guarantee DeGale will fail | Setanta
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Strong words but some valid points...
Boxing: Eubank: I guarantee DeGale will fail | Setanta
Did you see him on Bunces show?
Typical cringworthy Eubank madness.. then hilarious watching him in the background, while George Groves was talking, going round the office shaking everyones hand ;D
Love the man and has right!!
Degale has been paid for his fame now but thats only from the amatures, wait till he gets in there with strong experienced pros, its gonna be somewhere inbetween the falls of Harrison and Khan;D Only not as high profile;D
He has some very good points. Guarantee may be too strong a word, but then again he likes to make a statement.
I agree with him. DeGale is nothing special. I doubt he goes beyond British/European level. Darren Sutherland beat him 3 times out of 4.
Ive always liked Eubank. He might be right about Degale, but Im not in an informed postition to judge. Ive never actually seen Degale fight before. :-\
eubank has done everything & he has the right to say what he believes, degale gats on my tits already so bored of him & he aint made his pro debut yet. he is in fkin love with himself & i cant see him going to far
I think Eubank is talking a load of cliche bollocks.
It doesn't take a genius to predict someone will FAIL before they've even started.
Only a very small minority become success stories.
I'm sure Eubank will advise his son to turndown a million pound should he win an Olympic gold medal. :rolleyes:
He wasn't knocking degale's ability, just the comforts he has.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
Like Fenster said, even with G medal, very few become genuine stars. Haven't seen much of Degale to jusge how he does as a proffessional. I don't know who the little fella next to Groves was, but something he said about himself may be relevant to Degale - he said he was taught a different style by the international coach (Edwards I assume) of straight shots from the outside, rather than his own come forward approach with hooks. It just occurred to me as he said it that Degale probably adjusted his style to this 'fencing' approach which was successful in the amateurs, especially his 4th fight with Sutherland, who he couldn't really compete with when the guys may have been 'proper' boxing. Don't really know as i haven't seen the fights outside the olympics.
Degale does already come across as a bit of a wanker imo...
Got himself a £60k Range Rover and dishes out gold embezzeled business cards to anyone who'll have one.
He admitted it in the paper last week then claimed he gets all the women etc...
Just worries me when he's done f*ck all at pro level yet and it's Khan all over again.;D
I think the fact that Frankie Gavin had his olympics screwed up will drive him further than Degale can be driven to World honours.
What i mean is ...if Degale is already sorted for cash then where's the hunger coming from...does he really want to go all the way and graft for 5 years for something he has already been "Gifted";)
I agree, he'll feel that he has more to prove, and considering he's probably more talented as well he'll go far.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
IMO Degale has been much much worse than Khan in terms of lack of modesty since leaving the amateur game. He's a lot of talk.
You both are probably right BUTQuote:
Originally Posted by BompI agree, he'll feel that he has more to prove, and considering he's probably more talented as well he'll go far.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
IMO Degale has been much much worse than Khan in terms of lack of modesty since leaving the amateur game. He's a lot of talk.
Ignore the money and just look at the form.
Gavin was a big favourite to win Olympic gold. He was already rated the best in his division.
Degale was a big outsider (around 33/1) to win his weightclass. He was a SHOCK winner.
We already know Sutherland had beaten him in three previous meetings and his own club mate George Groves has beaten him - so with or without the hype and money, why would he be favourite to beat these guys in the pros? Especially considering his "fencing" style was so suited to the Olympic scoring.
At the outset Gavin will have been expected to do better than Degale whatever the circumstances. ;)
I must admit I have less than zero interest in James De Gale. I'm suprised he has made so much money to be honest because I honestly couldn't give a shit about him. I probably won't even make an effort to follow his pro career, and like Chris I don't expect him to get anywhere near a world title fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterYou both are probably right BUTQuote:
Originally Posted by BompI agree, he'll feel that he has more to prove, and considering he's probably more talented as well he'll go far.Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
IMO Degale has been much much worse than Khan in terms of lack of modesty since leaving the amateur game. He's a lot of talk.
Ignore the money and just look at the form.
Gavin was a big favourite to win Olympic gold. He was already rated the best in his division.
Degale was a big outsider (around 33/1) to win his weightclass. He was a SHOCK winner.
We already know Sutherland had beaten him in three previous meetings and his own club mate George Groves has beaten him - so with or without the hype and money, why would he be favourite to beat these guys in the pros? Especially considering his "fencing" style was so suited to the Olympic scoring.
At the outset Gavin will have been expected to do better than Degale whatever the circumstances. ;)
He fluked his way to an Olympic gold medal much like how Portsmouth and Cardiff got to the FA cup final last year. Do we expect fuck all from either those teams in the future, of course not, sometimes you get lucky, and during the Olympics De Gale did.
If I was a promoter I wouldn't even want him, just not interested in the slightest bit in him.
That's my point.Quote:
Originally Posted by BilboI must admit I have less than zero interest in James De Gale. I'm suprised he has made so much money to be honest because I honestly couldn't give a shit about him. I probably won't even make an effort to follow his pro career, and like Chris I don't expect him to get anywhere near a world title fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterYou both are probably right BUTQuote:
Originally Posted by Bomp
Ignore the money and just look at the form.
Gavin was a big favourite to win Olympic gold. He was already rated the best in his division.
Degale was a big outsider (around 33/1) to win his weightclass. He was a SHOCK winner.
We already know Sutherland had beaten him in three previous meetings and his own club mate George Groves has beaten him - so with or without the hype and money, why would he be favourite to beat these guys in the pros? Especially considering his "fencing" style was so suited to the Olympic scoring.
At the outset Gavin will have been expected to do better than Degale whatever the circumstances. ;)
He fluked his way to an Olympic gold medal much like how Portsmouth and Cardiff got to the FA cup final last year. Do we expect fuck all from either those teams in the future, of course not, sometimes you get lucky, and during the Olympics De Gale did.
If I was a promoter I wouldn't even want him, just not interested in the slightest bit in him.
Chris Eubank and everyone saying he'll fail because of the fame and money is boringly predictable.
Look at the guys form and you see it's nothing special. Then factor in the chance of success at WORLD level goes to only a small group.
Money/fame or not - Degale is a BIG outsider to go beyond Brit level.
That irish fella that beat Degale in the amatures looks a good bet for the pros, ive looked at a few vids of him on youtube, theres one of him training and sparring, got a good pro style, looks strong but as with all good British prospects, the lack of quality sparring lets them down.
Someone like Darren Sutherland who Maloney is promoting and obviously investing in, should be sent over to a tough area in america to spar for a couple of weeks, leading up to his fights, somewhere like Philidelphia, no high profile gyms, just honest hard working gyms with queues of other fellow prospects as sparring partners, all wanting to make it big and earn.
This is what Eubank is getting at, Degale is being robbed of the need for him to be hungry and had the edge taken off the need to work, as like Khan and Harrrison before him, he has it on a plate already, hes a millionaire before even fighting as a pro:rolleyes:
Maloney's Darren Sutherland is the Irish fella that beat Degale three/four times before losing to him at the Olympics. :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Degale is a millionaire before starting, but just because Audley and Khan failed (well Khan is still going) doesn't mean Degale will. Everyone is different.
He is LIKELY to FAIL anyway.
It doesn't matter how much heart, determination or areshole you have - TALENT is still the biggest factor in success. And going by the amateur form, Degale is NOT a standout in the talent department. ;)
The good thing about De Gale is he's likely to be the bookies favourite in any future match with sutherland or other domestic rival so we can make some money betting against him.Quote:
Originally Posted by FensterMaloney's Darren Sutherland is the Irish fella that beat Degale three/four times before losing to him at the Olympics. :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by ross
Degale is a millionaire before starting, but just because Audley and Khan failed (well Khan is still going) doesn't mean Degale will. Everyone is different.
He is LIKELY to FAIL anyway.
It doesn't matter how much heart, determination or areshole you have - TALENT is still the biggest factor in success. And going by the amateur form, Degale is NOT a standout in the talent department. ;)
Frank Warren wil make his money back off De Gale before he gets in the ring with anyone who can beat him, same with the other two Olympians he signed. One of them will probably eventually achieve the standard necessary to be awarded a vacant WBO belt or a WBU belt and they'll fight an endless string of tomato cans. After Bredis Prescott it's going to be safety first for Frank.
From the little I've seen of De Gale he does appear to be one of those guys who is far better suited to the amateurs.
I can see where Chris is coming from but I'm gonna watch DeGale and see how he goes.
He certainly seems talented though a little laidback (no worries there so was Lennox)
Anyway he's a UK prospect and I'll support him as he's not done anything wrong.
Welshdevil - yeah being laid back is no problem . ask Lennox
I wish James would have chosen to learn his trade in America on undercards although I can understand his decision to build himself in teh UK which would make more financial sense. I just think good quality sparring and tough Mexican opposition would mould him into a better fighter in the long run. Same for Khan
I agree 100% , Eubank talks total bollocks ,Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
Degale may fail but at least give the guy a chance , then judge him.
all the media coverage amir khan got put me off him u opened the paper & there he was a double spead on the little shite, where as other boxers were lucky to get a tenth of a page. see this all again with degale. i dislike both of them.