.....what's the verdict?
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.....what's the verdict?
The Worlds single most popular supplement and no comments?
I never heard of it Donny, to be honest...until you made this post and then I googled its site and a bunch of stuff on it. Near as I can tell, yes, it is popular...you have to take a load of pills daily, and you pee green.
I also see a lot of people asking about it on forums, in regards to fearing being tested using it. Not sure why.
I am going to look into it more, not to try or anything as I am happy with how I am balanced now...but just to learn on it.
People worry because it's banned in many countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Youngblood
The reason its banned is the high levels of Vitamins E and B12.
Its legal in boxing and other sports though.
Its essentially an energy supplement and I'm wondering of the ethical issues?
Is it wrong to take a substance that is banned in your countrty and not in your sport?
Nothing but Creatine,and Whey Protein around here,well coffee too
I don't think it's unethical in this case. You could easily buy supplements for vitamin E and B12 separately and combine them with other supplements and take more than the recommended dose.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyPeople worry because it's banned in many countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Youngblood
The reason its banned is the high levels of Vitamins E and B12.
Its legal in boxing and other sports though.
Its essentially an energy supplement and I'm wondering of the ethical issues?
Is it wrong to take a substance that is banned in your countrty and not in your sport?
In sport you will use more of many things though so why not take more? It'd be nice to be getting it through actual food rather than a supplement but if that's not working for you or possible then I wouldn't go on being deficient in something just because you are more active than the general population in your country.
I'm curious as to why it makes you pee green. I take vitamin B12 - had mouth ulcers often without it and it fixed me up. :) The vitamin B12 makes me pee bright yellow - luckily i know it's normal because the pharmacist warned me - otherwise i'd probably constantly worry and think i'm dehydrated.
The green though! :o :confused:
I've taken it three days now.Quote:
Originally Posted by SharlaI don't think it's unethical in this case. You could easily buy supplements for vitamin E and B12 separately and combine them with other supplements and take more than the recommended dose.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyPeople worry because it's banned in many countries.Quote:
Originally Posted by Youngblood
The reason its banned is the high levels of Vitamins E and B12.
Its legal in boxing and other sports though.
Its essentially an energy supplement and I'm wondering of the ethical issues?
Is it wrong to take a substance that is banned in your countrty and not in your sport?
In sport you will use more of many things though so why not take more? It'd be nice to be getting it through actual food rather than a supplement but if that's not working for you or possible then I wouldn't go on being deficient in something just because you are more active than the general population in your country.
I'm curious as to why it makes you pee green. I take vitamin B12 - had mouth ulcers often without it and it fixed me up. :) The vitamin B12 makes me pee bright yellow - luckily i know it's normal because the pharmacist warned me - otherwise i'd probably constantly worry and think i'm dehydrated.
The green though! :o :confused:
It's not been green, but like you said a bright yellow.
:puke:What a conversationalist I've become.
Its a mix of every vitamin available, doses of E and B12 may be excessive, but I don't intend to stay on it long, only until after my exams.
What are the doses? How excessive is it?
BTW good luck with the exams - you'll do well! :)
I pack of tablets a day. Eight tablets or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by Sharla
The doses, although exceeding E.U allowances are not dangerous if the user diets properly and doesn't have a lactose reliant diet.
Jenna is lactose intolerant and since she was born I've reduced my dairy intake. I've fouind that I may be a little affected too and I feel far better without, so Animal pack is pretty ok for me.
Yea I think the green urine was with people who were taking 2 packages a day, and from what I can tell, not hydrating enough.
I think this form of nutrient requires making sure you are maximizing your daily fluid intake.
It works, its not significant, you piss out most of it by the end of your day, the amount it costs (around $60 per month) isnt worth the value you get out of it. You're better off with protein, creatine, nitric oxide, amino acids, and some sport multivitamins advised by the chemist.
I'm not actually using it for any considerable gains.Quote:
Originally Posted by Outlaw Immortal
I'm happy in the weight region I'm at, I'm just solidifying what I've got.
I'm using the Animal Pak for a little energy boost in the mornings, I use a Whey-Glutamine&BCAA's mix for my post training supplement.
With some Carbs i hope? :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyI'm not actually using it for any considerable gains.Quote:
Originally Posted by Outlaw Immortal
I'm happy in the weight region I'm at, I'm just solidifying what I've got.
I'm using the Animal Pak for a little energy boost in the mornings, I use a Whey-Glutamine&BCAA's mix for my post training supplement.
Nothing wrong with Animal Pak - contains all the vitamins and mineral required for an effective immune system, energy metabolism which is important for an athlete. Seems to contain all the antioxidant nutrients to fight free radicals which also good - Vitamins C/E - selenuim/manganese etc
I think people look at it and compare it to creatine etc and because you can't actually feel it 'doing anything' it's easier to write it off. I've never used it personally but from the ingredient list it contains pretty much everything an athlete should be taking.
bro what you're saying is right, but like its not magic, its just a bit of extra nutrients, they jack so much vitamins in there, that its more than the body needs, so you end up urinating it, the price is bullshit as well man. But i guess if you've got money to blow then its alrightQuote:
Originally Posted by onoWith some Carbs i hope? :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyI'm not actually using it for any considerable gains.Quote:
Originally Posted by Outlaw Immortal
I'm happy in the weight region I'm at, I'm just solidifying what I've got.
I'm using the Animal Pak for a little energy boost in the mornings, I use a Whey-Glutamine&BCAA's mix for my post training supplement.
Nothing wrong with Animal Pak - contains all the vitamins and mineral required for an effective immune system, energy metabolism which is important for an athlete. Seems to contain all the antioxidant nutrients to fight free radicals which also good - Vitamins C/E - selenuim/manganese etc
I think people look at it and compare it to creatine etc and because you can't actually feel it 'doing anything' it's easier to write it off. I've never used it personally but from the ingredient list it contains pretty much everything an athlete should be taking.
Athletes do have increased vitamin and mineral needs due to their role in energy metabolism, glycolysis, lipolysis, protein metabolism, protein syntesis etc...Quote:
Originally Posted by Outlaw Immortalbro what you're saying is right, but like its not magic, its just a bit of extra nutrients, they jack so much vitamins in there, that its more than the body needs, so you end up urinating it, the price is bullshit as well man. But i guess if you've got money to blow then its alrightQuote:
Originally Posted by onoWith some Carbs i hope? :-)Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
Nothing wrong with Animal Pak - contains all the vitamins and mineral required for an effective immune system, energy metabolism which is important for an athlete. Seems to contain all the antioxidant nutrients to fight free radicals which also good - Vitamins C/E - selenuim/manganese etc
I think people look at it and compare it to creatine etc and because you can't actually feel it 'doing anything' it's easier to write it off. I've never used it personally but from the ingredient list it contains pretty much everything an athlete should be taking.
Can anybody find out the exact quantities of the vitamins and minerals in Animal pak? I can't. I can only find info that says it contains them....without specifiying the amounts.
Not sure i agree with the price, probably cheaper to buy several vitamins and adjust the dosage accordingly. That's what i do anyway - price wise it works out just fine.
I take a liquid multi. With the following in it. Anyone got thoughts on it?
Ingredients:
Medicinal ingredients:
Per 30 ml (Two 15 ml tablespoons)
Vitamins
Vitamin A (Palmitate)....................................... .. 2500 IU (1375 μg)
Beta Carotene .................................................. ..5000 IU (1500 μg)
Vitamin D3 .................................................. ............... 400 IU (10 μg)
Vitamin C (Calcium Ascorbate)........................................ ... 500 mg
Vitamin B1 (Thiamine Hydrochloride)...................................2 5 mg
Vitamin B2 (Riboflavin)...................................... .....................25 mg
Niacin (Niacinamide)..................................... ..........................25 mg
Vitamin B6 (Pyridoxine Hydrochloride).................................25 mg
Vitamin B12 .................................................. .......................... 100 μg
Folic Acid.............................................. ....................................500 μg
Biotin............................................ ............................................ 100 μg
Vitamin E (Mixed Tocopherols)...................................... ........100 IU
Pantothenic Acid (Calcium Pantothenate)...........................25 mg
Lipotropic factors
Choline (Bitartrate)...................................... ............................50 mg
Inositol .................................................. ....................................50 mg
Minerals
Calcium (Citrate, Gluconate)........................................ ........125 mg
Magnesium (Gluconate)....................................... ..................50 mg
Zinc (Citrate)......................................... ....................................25 mg
Iodine (Potassium)....................................... .............................75 μg
Manganese (Citrate)......................................... ......................... 2 mg
Silica (Silicon Dioxide).......................................... ...................10 mg
Potassium (Citrate)......................................... .........................50 mg
Chromium (Chloride)........................................ ......................200 μg
Selenium (Sodium Selenite)......................................... ........200 μg
Molybdenum (Sodium Molybdate)........................................ . 25 μg
Copper (Sulfate)......................................... .............................1.5 mg
Vanadium (Sodium Metavanadate)..................................... .. 50 μg
Boron (Borax)........................................... .................................. 2 mg
(continued in next post...was too long)
Other ingredients:PABA (Para Amino Benzoic Acid)...................................... 12.5 mg
Betaine Hydrochloride..................................... .................... 12.5 mg
Quercetin......................................... .........................................50 mg
Papain (Carica Papaya)........................................... ................. 5 mg
Lutein............................................ .............................................. 5 mg
Lycopene.......................................... ........................................... 5 mg
Aloe (Aloe Vera)............................................. ..........................50 mg
Citrus Bioflavonoids..................................... ............................50 mg
Reishi Mushroom Extract (Ganoderma Lucidum)................. 5 mg
Shiitake Mushroom Extract (Lentinus Edodes)...................12 mg
Grape Skin Extract (Vitis Vinifera)......................................... 20 mg
Grape Seed Extract (Vitis Vinifera)........................................2 0 mg
Turmeric Extract (Curcuma Longa).......................................50 mg
Stinging Nettle Extract (Urtica Dioica)............................... 100 mg
Saw Palmetto Extract (Serenoa Repens)............................... 5 mg
Cranberry Extract (Vaccinium Macrocarpon).......................10 mg
Amla Extract (Emblica Officinalis) ..................................... 200 mg
Bilberry Fruit Powder Extract (Vaccinium Myrtillus)............10 mg
Ashwagandha Extract (Withania Somnifera)......................25 mg
Siberian Ginseng Extract (Eleutherococcus Senticosus) 500 mg
Non-medicinal ingredients:Purified water, stevia, glycerin, potassium sorbate, fructose,
xanthan gum, lecithin, natural orange flavoring. Contains no
beef or pork products.
I've got my carbs in my protein shake - SN Twister - a really good athletes whey, BCAA, glutamine blend.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
I don't take supplements to feel myself grow or anything, merely to stop myself aching and breaking up!
I've concluded it is making an actual difference.Quote:
Originally Posted by Outlaw Immortal
At first I thought it may have been a placebo effect, but my concentration levels in class and my energy levels in training are definitely higher than before.
Price wise, I'd end up paying more for seperate supplements.Quote:
Originally Posted by ono
Its banned here because of the vitamin E and B12 levels, so when you can get it its dirt cheap.