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Irish media product has landed a title shot against WBA interim titleholder Ricardo Cordoba.
Dunne, who was heavily defeated by Kiko Marrtinez, not very long ago has had tough times since, wining close fights to blown up bantamweights.
Similar to Kahn, Dunne is a good boxer, limited by his physical durability and in particular his chin.
Any interest?
Ill watch it but don't think Dunne has what it takes on the world level, agree he's like Khan, all hype no chin, though where Khan can hit, Bernard lacks any real power...
Unless Dunne has been using the same tactic on his chin that I used to use on conkers.....marinating it in vinegar for two weeks to make it harder, then I don't think he can really mix it at world level. He's likely to get sparked again if he's fighting anyone with some serious power.
However, I'm thinking of calling in a favour of a guy I know in Dublin and seeing if I can't make it over, I'd love to go to a partisan Irish boxing night!
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Originally Posted by Phil
Agree with both the above.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
And If Brian Peters doesn't loathe me at this stage (a distinct possibility!) I'll see you both there!
How did you shit on the blanket with Dunne`s camp? What happened?Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyQuote:
Originally Posted by Phil
Agree with both the above.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
And If Brian Peters doesn't loathe me at this stage (a distinct possibility!) I'll see you both there!
Honestly man, I was honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by barrykil1980How did you shit on the blanket with Dunne`s camp? What happened?Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyQuote:
Originally Posted by Phil
Agree with both the above.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
And If Brian Peters doesn't loathe me at this stage (a distinct possibility!) I'll see you both there!
I wrote a couple of scathing articles about Dunne and noticed my ringside seats began to become less ringside, I started to drift back and back!
Oh well, I'm not gonna sacrifice honesty for my own good:shakehead:
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Originally Posted by hitmandonny
You didn't dare suggest that Bernard had a suspect chin and got caught cold by Kiko Martinez did you?
I may have;)Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhunQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
You didn't dare suggest that Bernard had a suspect chin and got caught cold by Kiko Martinez did you?
I may also have wrote;
"Rafael Marquez, Celestino Caballero, Steve Molitor and "El Magnifico," Israel Vasquez.
Those are experienced fighters that can box with tenacity and skill.
I'm afraid Dunne doesn't have the physical makeup to withstand what those men can administer."
Neither do 90% of the super bantamweights at the moment. At least Bernard Dunne can console himself with the fact that he is miles ahead of the likes of Munroe and Martinez in skill level and that getting caught cold by a big puncher is par for the course in boxing. His chin may not be the best but nowhere near as bad as people make out, and he has more going for him than against him.Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonnyI may have;)Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhunQuote:
Originally Posted by hitmandonny
You didn't dare suggest that Bernard had a suspect chin and got caught cold by Kiko Martinez did you?
I may also have wrote;
"Rafael Marquez, Celestino Caballero, Steve Molitor and "El Magnifico," Israel Vasquez.
Those are experienced fighters that can box with tenacity and skill.
I'm afraid Dunne doesn't have the physical makeup to withstand what those men can administer."
If I were Brian Peters I wouldn't be worried about your opinion, I think you flatter yourself to think he would give a f$*K what you wrote, but that's just my humble opinion!
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Originally Posted by katiek
You'd be amazed at how much the promoters actually pay attention to what is discussed on these websites, and especially what is written. For example, I know that writers for Saddoboxing couldn't get passes for any Sports Network events after someone wrote something about Joe Calzaghe having fragile hands that annoyed Frank Warren.
As for Dunne then, you've got to admit he's got a big job on his hands against Cordoba, and will be fighting someone significantly above him in terms of the company that he's mixed in, who also has a reasonable KO record. Hopefully, Dunne will have been working a lot on his defence, and will need to be at his very best to get anything out of Cordoba.
I agree with everything you say about Dunne V Cordoba, Dunne definately has his work cut out for him. I would give him a slim chance of winning because of his skill but like you say needs to keep a tight defense.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhunQuote:
Originally Posted by katiek
You'd be amazed at how much the promoters actually pay attention to what is discussed on these websites, and especially what is written. For example, I know that writers for Saddoboxing couldn't get passes for any Sports Network events after someone wrote something about Joe Calzaghe having fragile hands that annoyed Frank Warren.
As for Dunne then, you've got to admit he's got a big job on his hands against Cordoba, and will be fighting someone significantly above him in terms of the company that he's mixed in, who also has a reasonable KO record. Hopefully, Dunne will have been working a lot on his defence, and will need to be at his very best to get anything out of Cordoba.
If promoters listened to half the criticism wrote about various boxers, they would never give out passes and with the amount of crap said and wrote about Dunne I would think Peters would let it go in one ear and out the other.
I reckon Dunne will do well to NOT get KO'd here. 7/4 Cordoba.
Is this on RTE web?
Ricardo Cordoba vs. Bernard Dunne for WBA Super Bantamweight Belt on March 21 at O2 Arena in Dublin, Ireland.
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I got the Panamanian to KO/TKO the Irishman...
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I agree Cordoba is a monster. Dunne is a decent fighter, but not near enough power to keep Cordoba honest.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Just reposting this...
I think Cordobas got too much skill for Dunne.
He'll box circles around him and I think Cordobas def. got the goods to go far in the Bantam div. would love to see a return match vs. Caballero now that both are major players in the div.
Having a win over Celestino "THE TOWERING INFERNO" Caballero is quite an impressive achievement... Cordoba is one reason why the 122 division is one of the hottest division in boxing right now...
Just look at these names; Israel Vazquez, Celestino Caballero, Juan Manuel Lopez, Gerry Peñalosa, Rafael Marquez, Ricardo Cordoba, Poonsawat Kratingdaeng, Jhonny González... to name a few...
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Must admit never seen Cordoba fight, but I do like the carnival atmosphere that Dunne brings with him and a packed Irish crowd cheering to the rafters will have me rooting for Dunne and hoping everything goes Hunky Dory
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Hmmnnn..... http://www.taquitos.net/im/sn/HunkyDorys-Buffalo.jpg
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Ha ha ;D Bernard Dunne got top billing in the fight poster... (note: fight will be in Ireland ;) ) ... It should read "Ricardo Cordoba vs. Bernard Dunne" ...
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Yeah actually this highlights the point I was making with CutMeMick about Khan fighting Marquez.
He thinks the fight would never happen and it would be a sell out for Marquez to take it but he's simply underestimating the appeal of popular fighters. Dunne got sparked in a round just like Khan to a fighter who has since twice been beaten by a decent domestic level Brit in Munroe yet its Bernard Dunne because of his popular appeal that not only gets the world title shot but also has the bargaining power to drag the champ over here.
Now look at Amir Khan, who has achieved far more than Bernard Dunne being an Olympic Silver Medalist and boasting a win over a legend in Barrera (whatever the circumstances). He's more popular in the UK than Dunne is in Ireland even capable of doing PPV's on Sky Box Office.
The media interest in a fight between Marquez and Khan would be huge. If it was in American it would be a FAR bigger attraction and an easier sell than any of the other challengers left out there, Funeka, Prescott, Peterson, De Marco etc.
In fact unless Marquez gets Manny again or rematches Juan Diaz I cannot see a bigger opponent for him than Amir Khan.
He will have to move up to jump weight classes again and fight at a catchweight against another divisional star as there simply arn't any other big fights for at lightweight, and none that come close to the money making potential and media appeal than Khan.
Don't get me wrong I don't believe that Khan is ready for Marquez but I'm certain if Warren wanted to negotiate terms with Marquez, only a third fight with Pacquaio would stop Marquez and his team from being all over it. They may even come to the UK to fight him as I'd imagine Khan is a bigger box office draw than J M Marquez even if he is the second best fighter on the planet.
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Yeah actually this highlights the point I was making with CutMeMick about Khan fighting Marquez.
He thinks the fight would never happen and it would be a sell out for Marquez to take it but he's simply underestimating the appeal of popular fighters. Dunne got sparked in a round just like Khan to a fighter who has since twice been beaten by a decent domestic level Brit in Munroe yet its Bernard Dunne because of his popular appeal that not only gets the world title shot but also has the bargaining power to drag the champ over here.
Now look at Amir Khan, who has achieved far more than Bernard Dunne being an Olympic Silver Medalist and boasting a win over a legend in Barrera (whatever the circumstances). He's more popular in the UK than Dunne is in Ireland even capable of doing PPV's on Sky Box Office.
The media interest in a fight between Marquez and Khan would be huge. If it was in American it would be a FAR bigger attraction and an easier sell than any of the other challengers left out there, Funeka, Prescott, Peterson, De Marco etc.
In fact unless Marquez gets Manny again or rematches Juan Diaz I cannot see a bigger opponent for him than Amir Khan.
He will have to move up to jump weight classes again and fight at a catchweight against another divisional star as there simply arn't any other big fights for at lightweight, and none that come close to the money making potential and media appeal than Khan.
Don't get me wrong I don't believe that Khan is ready for Marquez but I'm certain if Warren wanted to negotiate terms with Marquez, only a third fight with Pacquaio would stop Marquez and his team from being all over it. They may even come to the UK to fight him as I'd imagine Khan is a bigger box office draw than J M Marquez even if he is the second best fighter on the planet.
I fully agree Master Bilbo... ;) If you can lure a boxing legend (Barrera) to fight you in your own backyard then it says a lot about your drawing power... ;)
I'm sure with moderate money (maybe $333,333 US dollars), Team Khan can convince JMM to fight Amir in the UK... JMM fought one time in Indonesia (Far East) for US $30,000 and lost to local hero Chris John...
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WBA Super-bantamweight champion, Panama's Ricardo Cordoba arrives for the weigh in at the Ballsbridge Court Hotel, Dublin, Ireland, Friday March 20, 2009. Ireland's Bernard Dunne faces Cordoba Saturday for the WBA Super-bantamweight boxing title at the Dublin O2 Arena.
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Ireland's Bernard Dunne, right, and Ricardo Cordoba pose during the weigh in at the Ballsbridge Court Hotel, Dublin, Ireland, Friday March 20, 2009. Ireland's Bernard Dunne faces Cordoba Saturday for the WBA Super-bantamweight boxing title at the Dublin O2 Arena.
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Quite looking forward to this one, but I think the difference here between Khan and Dunne is that Khan has really improved his defence to recover from his one-round sparking, and we're still not sure if Dunne has succeeded with that yet.
As for getting the title fight, a part of me thinks it should have gone to Munroe, but as Bilbo said, a good promoter and fan-pulling-power means more than results sometimes.
If anyone wants to watch this one...probably Dunne getting sparked again though ;) here's the link:
RTÉ Ireland's National Television and Radio Broadcaster
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I owe you some rep bro.
I'd return it if i didn't spend most of my time on this site repping you ;). So, what odds on Dunne getting past the halfway mark you reckon?Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheepQuote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
I owe you some rep bro.
They've got quite the party atmosphere there, and they're welcoming Dunne like the champion. I imagine Cordoba will have the more muted welcome, and be all the better for it.
The boos ring out for the champ though. I doubt he'll mind, should be all business.
Cordoba took the first, Dunne the second, and in the third a sensational left from Dunne has Cordoba down and in trouble. They go to the corners and Dunne will be buoyed by that!!!!
Cordoba took the fourth, then put Dunne down twice in the fifth....he's got to get his damn hands up and away from Cordoba or this'll be over sharpish.
Dunne is putting on a much betting showing than I expected, tbh I though Cordoba would have taken this in 3 or 4.
I agree. Superb atmosphere and a real close fight. I got it 75-75 through 8
I was thinking the same thing, and although the stream's a bit choppy, from what I'm seeing he is very competitive in there, and may even be ahead. Cordoba's cut over the right, and Dunne doing very well.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Grandstand finish required, 94-94 from me
First round in a while where Dunne looked in trouble. He's still edging it just on my card, but needs one of the last two, and he looked exhausted there!
Gwan Dunney.
Dunne is going to get it!!!!!
Cordoba down twice!
I can't believe it. Dunne has proved me wrong, and a whole host of people wrong KO'ing Cordoba. Cordoba down a third time and the ref waves it off. Both guys gave everything, and I never thought Dunne could come back from the loss to Martinez and win like this. Exceptional performance, and what a great day for Irish sport!Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
Great fight, Dunne impressed the hell out of me, he dug deep and looked very improved.Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhunI can't believe it. Dunne has proved me wrong, and a whole host of people wrong KO'ing Cordoba. Cordoba down a third time and the ref waves it off. Both guys gave everything, and I never thought Dunne could come back from the loss to Martinez and win like this. Exceptional performance, and what a great day for Irish sport!Quote:
Originally Posted by superheavyrhun
Excellent win for Dunne!!!
F*ckin Cordoba f*cked up for my stable!
I need to rewatch this again. I despise stream quality. But Dunne proved he ain't done. Good for him.
Cordoba has been down for a long while, but it seems he's going to be ok according to the guys at ringside. Cordoba did get stretchered out of the ring in the end.
I really thought Dunne was going to get sparked, but he's fought out of his skin, and ruined my predictions for another week. I thought it was all over in the fifth, but he's proved a lot tonight.
Some controversy as to whether the ref should have stopped it earlier, before the third knockdown, and maybe the ref should have done. I hope Cordoba is going to recover, cause he and Dunne had a very entertaining fight.