Mundine 12/02/09 - "I am the best in the world"

Just saw him on the news after his win over Shannon Taylor...

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"I am ready for the best in the world".. "I AM the best in the world"..

I'm wondering if he still believes this.. I'm wondering if he thinks there are still Australians, schooled in boxing or otherwise, who believes this?

One kind of plus is that he's "eyeing off the belt of Felix Sturm" and is considering going to Germany... I rate this fight higher than his last 7 or 8, but eyeing it off is another thing to signing and jumping on a plane over there... However just after that they mentioned Green is coming out of retirement for another crack at Mundine... On past evidence, Mundine will surely take the Green fight and not bother with Sturm... If he goes and beats Felix, he would have a case for a fight in the US, but I have hoped and practically prayed that he'd seek and take a fight with a US fighter and bring himself seriously into the game, but his choice of fights has been so much more than just a let down giving his tallent and potential... Every time he fights or announces a fight, I just feel let down and dissapointed.. And i'm almost 100% i'll be dissapointed with his next scheduled fight..

Like, it might well be the case that he's tried his ass off for months to get a decent respected fighter to get in the ring with him, and just no one wants a piece at all, in which case i'd have empathy and would support him in whatever fights he gets.... But i'm not sure that is the case,,, and even if it is, to still continue declaring your the best in the world is just old and tiresom...
Hell, i'd actually rather him wave a handful of notes about and say how much money he made from his last fight.. At least it would have an ounce of truth or reality to it..

That is all...

Agree with everything you've said mate.

Total waste of talent.

Two words - knob jockey.

Mundine gets overlooked all the time in america and europe.

He really should considering doing what katsidis has done and getting himself over to the US before its too late!!

Youve really got to feal for the Aussies at the mo:-\

Having to deal with arsonists and now this embarrasing little cuunt:p

Fuck me, Shannon Taylor has been cannon fodder since Mosely beat him, he did make Abraham struggle a little;), I watched that one, also remember seeing Richard Williams doing everything he wanted and stopping him 8 years ago:o

Mundine got wiped out by Ottke, if your world class that doesnt happen;D

A fight with Katsidis should be his next ppv fight. ;)

Mundine was kind of funny on the news though, as they played a replay of a bunch of the horrible low blows that Taylor landed on him throughout the fight..

He's like "yeah, not sure what will happen if I want to have kids now.. He did a bit of damage down there"...

Anyway, I want to support him I really do, but I just want to see him make the most of his potential whatever it is.. If he comes up short, he went down fighting..

After that, we just gotta wait for the next Kostya

Wasn't it about a year ago that Mundine had that eye infection & they were saying he could go blind in one eye & never fight again. I'm glad that didn't end his career but has anyone even seen that mentioned again lately?

Just watched the highlights on youtube and Mundine is shite, no snap, power or strength and was getting beaten to the punch, if he fought Abraham hed get wreacked, I think even Sturm will batter him.

He must be weaker at this weight and desperate to avoid the big boys at super middle, he did alot better against kessler but on this form hes got nothing to offer on the world scene.

Yes better stay in Australia and fight at light heavy.

Most casual boxing fans in the US have never heard of him, and those that have never saw him fight. Maybe hes ok with that, but the truth is there are a lot of guys in the middleweight division who would beat him, and at this point if he did fight outside of Austrailia, he gets humiliated. Come to think of it, the one time he fought outside his back yard he was KOd by Ottke.

I want to see Mundine do a hip hop collaboration with Joachin Phoenix.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LieYeCudbQ8

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GoNlq...next=1&index=4

I don't hate Mundine like most do on here, he hasn't had a bad career, his KO loss to Ottke is going to hang over him for the rest of his career and he talks a lot of shit, be he legitimately has speed and skill.

Mundine couldn't put a shot and old Shannon Taylor away, how on earth is he going to beat anyone at 160lb at the top of their game?
Seriously, Abraham would win a convincing decision over Mundine and i think Sturm would too, Mundine has lost all power at Middleweight.
Going up to 175 lb to fight Green in a meaningless rematch would only make sense if he did it just for the money. If he wants titles at 160lb then he needs to perform a lot better than he did against Shannon Taylor. Mundine is 33 and is running out of time, he needs a win over Sturm or Abraham in 2009 to be taken seriously. Who would fight him in the US unless this happens? Mundine is on borrowed time.

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Originally Posted by Dizaster

Mundine was kind of funny on the news though, as they played a replay of a bunch of the horrible low blows that Taylor landed on him throughout the fight..

He's like "yeah, not sure what will happen if I want to have kids now.. He did a bit of damage down there"...

Anyway, I want to support him I really do, but I just want to see him make the most of his potential whatever it is.. If he comes up short, he went down fighting..

After that, we just gotta wait for the next Kostya

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What a Russian to move to Australia? That won't happen now that they can fight pro out of Russia.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

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Originally Posted by Dizaster

Mundine was kind of funny on the news though, as they played a replay of a bunch of the horrible low blows that Taylor landed on him throughout the fight..

He's like "yeah, not sure what will happen if I want to have kids now.. He did a bit of damage down there"...

Anyway, I want to support him I really do, but I just want to see him make the most of his potential whatever it is.. If he comes up short, he went down fighting..

After that, we just gotta wait for the next Kostya

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What a Russian to move to Australia? That won't happen now that they can fight pro out of Russia.

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Got me there :-\

Nah we poach the Armenians now. Anyone Heard of the Aussie Vic Darchinyan? Multiple belt holder?

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Originally Posted by killersheep

he legitimately has speed and skill.

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When you are getting beaten to the punch by Shannan Taylor, your not:rolleyes:

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Originally Posted by ross

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Originally Posted by killersheep

he legitimately has speed and skill.

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When you are getting beaten to the punch by Shannan Taylor, your not:rolleyes:

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120-107 yeah looks like he was beaten to the punch. Hey Taylor (shannan) would be Frochs second best opponent anyway.....

Watch the highlights on youtube, Mundines head gets snapped back quite a few times from Taylors jab!!

Mundine also did a stupid little dance after getting caught with a punch, he shook his head and did al that crap that Jones does, lifting his knee right up, what a twat;D I reckon that shot must have rattled him to get that reaction.

He hasnt got a hope in hell of lasting the distance with Abraham, he has nothing to make Abraham think Twice about going in and working him over:p

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Originally Posted by ross

Watch the highlights on youtube, Mundines head gets snapped back quite a few times from Taylors jab!!

Mundine also did a stupid little dance after getting caught with a punch, he shook his head and did al that crap that Jones does, lifting his knee right up, what a twat;D I reckon that shot must have rattled him to get that reaction.

He hasnt got a hope in hell of lasting the distance with Abraham, he has nothing to make Abraham think Twice about going in and working him over:p

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There is probably only 2 or 3 middles in the world right now who would definitely go the distance with Abraham so big deal if Mundine cant, i seriously doubt if he could too. Point is there are far bigger frauds out there than Mundine and Carl Froch is number one on the list. So why not point out the fact he has done fuck all yet talks himself up more as much as Mundine.

Read through my posts on Froch, I cant stand him but at least his "quality" is as yet unknown because he hasnt faced a world class known quantity himself yet, whereas Mundine got flattened by Ottke;D;D and still proclaims to be the best;D;D;D

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Originally Posted by ross

Read through my posts on Froch, I cant stand him but at least his "quality" is as yet unknown because he hasnt faced a world class known quantity himself yet, whereas Mundine got flattened by Ottke;D;D and still proclaims to be the best;D;D;D

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He also KO'd Soliman after Sam nearly beat Winky. He won every round pretty much against Green, and beat tough dirty guy Echols. Wow he got Ko'd by a feather fisted undefeated champ in his 10th fight whilst up on the cards. Big fucken deal. Move on from 8 years ago. Think of something for yourself rather than just repeating what evryone says about Mundine.

I guess you'll probably now start one of your ridiculous rants about how Calzaghe is so great better than Hopkins Jones Mayweather and Ali combined. Bla bla bla

Mundine is a mere fraud.

Wow!!

Is this Mundines wife?

Bragging about how he beat light middle weight Soliman;D

He lost to Kessler, Ottke and Siaca, no shame there, apart from Siaca and the ko to Ottke, which rules him out of world class.

The reason everyone says the same things about Mundine is because everyone thinks the same things about Mundine, hes shiit, hes a joke, he wont take any decent fights, hes been offered a Kessler rematch, seeing as thats the best effort hes put in, even though losing and Kessler is the biggest name in the super middles, youd think hed give it another bash.

Since the Danny Green fight hes how many world class super middles has he beaten in 9 fights? None!!;D

He did ko Soliman, an ex light middle whod never fought at super middle before;D and then he rematched him;D

His career has really gone steller;D

He needs to shut up, no ones interested.

Surely theres better Australian fighters you can stick up for, isnt Fenech still active;)

Ha ha, watch this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFI4NdNFjKQ

An aussie rapping, poor version of eminem, I can just imagine him trying to look gangsta with a can of fosters and flip flops on whilst sitting by the creek fishing for yabbies to chuck on the barby;D

I couldnt give a xxxx

Mundine has nobody to blame but himself for all the vitriol coming his way. He lost to Ottke in only his 11th pro fight so i will cut him some slack for that one and it was 8 years ago. My beef with Mundine is he genuinely has talent and apart from the average Manny Siaca has only really lost to Mikkel Kessler, no shame there especially as Mundine did very well against the big K man, i had it 116-112. Why at his advanicng age he continues to fight has beens and low ranked fighters is a mystery to me. IMO he has this year only to make a mark in World Boxing, he needs to get in there with either Sturm or Abraham or simply give it away. Fighting Danny Green at 175 lb will improve his bank balance but that's all it will do. He needs to fight 3 more times this year and at least one of these fights needs to be against a legitimate champion.

I treat Mundine like I do Darchinyan. Just don't pay ANY attention to what they say. Just watch the fight and decide for yourself. From memory loads of people on here used to say the say the same things about Darchinyan as they are saying in this thread about Mundine because of the things Darchinyan would say. When he lost to Donaire this obviously spiked. Since then most have good things to say about Darchinyan. His performances have been better than Mundines though but to me I pay more attention to what i see than what I hear. With Mundine it is a great athlete who has great boxing skill who doesnt always perfom to his best. With Darchinyan it is great power, stamina and an awkward style. Both fighters i'm happy to support and watch fight but not listen to their schizophrenic rantings.

Got to give Mundine credit for one thing. He has us talking about Middleweights again.

When's the last time we talked about Middleweights on this forum? :-\

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Originally Posted by ross

Read through my posts on Froch, I cant stand him but at least his "quality" is as yet unknown because he hasnt faced a world class known quantity himself yet, whereas Mundine got flattened by Ottke;D;D and still proclaims to be the best;D;D;D

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He also KO'd Soliman after Sam nearly beat Winky. He won every round pretty much against Green, and beat tough dirty guy Echols. Wow he got Ko'd by a feather fisted undefeated champ in his 10th fight whilst up on the cards. Big fucken deal. Move on from 8 years ago. Think of something for yourself rather than just repeating what evryone says about Mundine.

I guess you'll probably now start one of your ridiculous rants about how Calzaghe is so great better than Hopkins Jones Mayweather and Ali combined. Bla bla bla

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Ottke loss 8 years ago... who lives in 8 years ago? 8 years ago people were praising what a great predisent George W Bush would be :D Alot can happen in 8 years ;)

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Originally Posted by Majesty

Got to give Mundine credit for one thing. He has us talking about Middleweights again.

When's the last time we talked about Middleweights on this forum? :-\

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Probably up till the Hopkins Pavlik fight;)

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Originally Posted by ross

Read through my posts on Froch, I cant stand him but at least his "quality" is as yet unknown because he hasnt faced a world class known quantity himself yet, whereas Mundine got flattened by Ottke;D;D and still proclaims to be the best;D;D;D

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Look I dont like him either but Ottke was very lucky that night Mundine showboated went side on and got caught in the worse spot . He was winning that fight,
although the judges wouldnt have given him the nod (as we all knew anyway) so the end justified the means.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=r97Qq...eature=related

Looks good though ;D temple shot ,not even looking at the shot comming ;D.They dont show it but he was showboating just proir to gettting stormed by Spen ,Top points to Spen for moving in like that and catchin the fool .;)

The whole world was happy with that temple shot after his stupid 911 comment.

Kinell, he was absolutely out cold asleep:o;D;D;D;D;D

From the lightest hitting supermiddle champ ever;)

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Originally Posted by ross

Kinell, he was absolutely out cold asleep:o;D;D;D;D;D

From the lightest hitting supermiddle champ ever;)

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Nothing to do with beard or any weakness in the head Ross watch the shot closer its right on the lights out switch.
You cant train for that you cant tense up against it or brace your self and think through it like the chin button. Its two different things completly simular to a shot to the guts and a shot to the nuts. One you can tough out the other we are all in the same boat same goes for the temple and the chin.

He was ko'd by his own stupidity, any fighter me included and Im two weights below him would take him out cold on his temple with his head turned sideways to me for that instant then :o as the punch lands he turns his head back into it increasing the impact further.


Okkte did well for sure but hey it was all timing on Okktes behalf and lack of technique on Mundines. He stopped boxing and thought "this prick cant hurt me, Im stepping in too."

Yah dankershein, ;D hgoodnight.

Right.

Ive seen other fighters hit on the temple and yes, there legs go and they look drunk but Mundine was asleep;D

Bet hes a light weight in the drinking department also.

Makes me wonder why his knickname from rugby is, the man?? He isnt a particularly big tough bloke you wouldnt want to mess with, Ottke did him so anyone could;D

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Originally Posted by ross

Right.

Ive seen other fighters hit on the temple and yes, there legs go and they look drunk but Mundine was asleep;D

Bet hes a light weight in the drinking department also.

Makes me wonder why his knickname from rugby is, the man?? He isnt a particularly big tough bloke you wouldnt want to mess with, Ottke did him so anyone could;D

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Its makes all the rest of the fighters he faced look poorly then.
I thought Eccols would of schooled him but the reverse occured :confused:.

I'm pretty sure 'the Man' was his own invention. :newdb:"I am the Man"

everyone else called him 'Chock'.

( ;D Actually its like the Aussie expression Chocka block)

That must be it... cause he is so far up himself !

Mundine actually has abit of skill.

its a shame he is an absolute wanker.

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Originally Posted by Pugilistic

Mundine actually has abit of skill.

its a shame he is an absolute wanker.

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I agree. He's a very skilled fighter who just happens to be a douchebag who appears uninterested in taking on serious competition at this point in his career. He's got a ton of skill though, no doubt about it. The Kessler fight provides ample evidence of his skill level.