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Is there a better active defensive fighter than Joan? I'm watching his last fight against Ameth Diaz, some of the shit Guzman is pulling off is ridiculous. When he does his little defense only moves it's like he goes into fast forward.
I also noticed Mayweather wasn't in his corner, anyone know anything about that? Did he get dumped after not making weight?
Since Floyds retirement I think Guzmans defense is the best in the game! I hope with a win over Romanov Guzman can make a statement against the other big names at 135. He was on the cusp coming into the Campbell fight but not making weight has set him back some!
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Originally Posted by killersheep
I consider Guzman to be Boxings most skilled fighter. As well as it's most overrated. 32 years old and the biggest name on his resume is Humberto Soto. :vd:
I remember watching Guzman years ago and couldn't wait to see more. But things have just never taken off. He maybe gives me the impression that he ain't as dedicated to boxing as his skill set would suggest.
Definately one of the most talented boxers around. Unfortunately, unless he makes a leap, i see him as a "what could have been" fighter. Something has gone wrong at the last hurdle a couple of times now for him. I'm sure he was supposed to have fought Alex Arthur for a title a while back and somethin to do with a visa stopped him fighting. No doubt in my mind he would have demolished Arthur too.
I'd love to know how this guy lives. With a bit more dedication he could have been a big star in boxing. The Campbell debacle was beyond belief. Just when he gets the chance to force the big boys to take notice, he sets himself back further than ever :rolleyes:
Given the chance, I think he would have beaten Pac, Marquez and the rest.
Unfortunately, with his age starting to kick on, it looks like he'll join the wasted talent club.
Guzman is a fighter who is going to break into superstardum.
The problem is, about 5 years ago he was going to break into superstardum too.
He is like the hare in the tortoise race. He seems to get such a lead, but when he is about to reach the finish line he lets up just enough for a turtle to catch him.
Thanks for sharing, that was one impressive vid compilation of a boxer whose status nowadays is relegated to a footnote. I wonder if the sad predicament has more to do with consequences beyond his control, or a lack of dedication due to unprofessionalism. Either way, with skills as such on display, here's hoping that he gets a second chance. Anyone deserves one, there is no reason he shouldn't.
I wonder what happened? He was right there with the big names and then poof! gone in a blink of an eye.
At his age, he does not have many more chances to get back to the pink of things, so he better not waste at any of the chances coming his way.
I can imagine a lot of people wanting to see more of him with suspended disappointment. It is suspended, as fans of boxers with these skills are
understandably eternally forgiving and are to a fault, hopeful optimists. , Nothing wrong with that, for these are but, genuine attributes of a fan!
Is he fighting Yuri Romanov?
I still say its Bernard Hopkins, he gets hit about the same against way higher levels of competition.
But Hopkins constantly holds.. and is ugly to watch
You don't have to know about boxing to appreciate the magnitude of skill Guzman displays.. not just defensively either.
It's certainly been mentioned for the IBF. Shame really because Romanov is another fighter that should have done better things by now. If it happens Guzman will have a field day.Quote:
Originally Posted by Master
Guzman spent years blaming promoters for his career not going anywhere then doesn't make the weight for the biggest fight of his career and a chance to make some big fights and a lot of money before he starts to go downhill. Hopefully he gets a belt and then finally faces meaningful opposition.
That doesn't make Hopkins not a better fighter, which he clearly is. Ugly style or not he is far better than Guzman will ever be, even if he isn't as impressive, thats the whole appeal to Hopkins. I would also argue that Calderon is at least as good of a defensive fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Fenster
He is exciting to watch,would of liked to see him crush Alex Arthur.
Guzman is maybe the P4P most talented fighter in boxing right now. I am a huge fan I hope he comes back,.
A year ago, I had it Floyd the best defensive fighter, then Guzman, then Hopkins. Now that Floyd's gone, I think Guzman is def the best out there. Hopkins uses footwork, blocking shots, and his slickness to get away from punches but Guzman is slick and evades punches with raw instinct.
Guzman is definitely more fun to watch!
I'm not sure who said it, but I think Guzman blew his shot at the elite by not making weight for his fight against Campbell. A win there would've made him almost impossible to dodge by the winner of the Diaz/Marquez fight. But we all know how that panned out...
Fortunately for Guzman he has a vacant title shot coming up shortly, so assuming he wins he can be in position once again to get another big name fight.
He's extremely talented. I've been following his career for some time now and it's too bad he hasn't got a big named fight, some of that his fault a lot of it was his promoters he had throughout most of his career.
I remember when Guzman was going to fight Pacquiao in Vancouver, Canada. Ahhh, I was so pumped since Vancouver isn't that far of a drive from Seattle. Too bad Bob Arum quickly decided against it immediately after Guzman beat Soto. His excuse was Guzman was too boring but I think honestly Bob didn't like the risk/reward, plus Pacquiao has never really faced a slick fighter like Guzman before so there is a bit of an unknown factor there as well.
Here was an article on what almost happened:
Roach wants Pacquiao to face Guzman before Marquez
Manny Pacquiao and his trainer Freddie Roach want Dominican Republic’s Joan Guzman as the next opponent for the Philippines’ national pride, according to a report posted on Sunday by Sun-Star Cebu.
However, the deal has not yet been sealed as they are still waiting for the go signal from Golden Boy Promotions (GBP) and Sycuan Ringside Promotions — the co-promoters of Guzman, who is the World Boxing Organization super featherweight champion.
Top Rank’s founder and chairman Bob Arum has been negotiating with GBP’s Richard Schaefer and Sycuan’s Glenn Quiroga to allow the undefeated Guzman to fight Pacquiao on October 6 in Vancouver, Canada.
On a positive note, GBP executives Schaefer and Eric Gomez aren’t keen on holding back Guzman if the money offered by Arum and Top Rank is enough.
Roach has also given the go signal for his prized fighter, Pacquiao, to fight Guzman, whom he earlier described as the only fighter in the super featherweight division who has the arsenal to beat Pacquiao.
It seems Roach and Top Rank want Pacquiao to face Guzman first before the champ goes on a rematch against the WBC super featherweight champion Juan Manuel Marquez.
Pacquiao had earlier sent a letter to the World Boxing Council (WBC) asking it to name another mandatory challenger to Marquez, a move that drew a lot of flak not only from Pinoy fight fans but from the WBC president Jose Sulaiman himself. - GMANews.TV
Don't forget Barrios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
And you are really starting to abuse that particular smiley face my friend.
I think its time for an intervention...
The only ones that come remotely close and even then there's enough room for Guzman are "Chemito" Moreno, Narvaez & Spinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
Spinks hasn't looked exactly stellar lately IMO, Moreno shut me up on that anti-drug Caballero undercard the boy's got some mad skills. And then there's Narvaez, it's hard to believe he's older than Guzman, he moves like a guy half that age.Quote:
Originally Posted by CutMeMickThe only ones that come remotely close and even then there's enough room for Guzman are "Chemito" Moreno, Narvaez & Spinks.Quote:
Originally Posted by killersheep
The perpetual wannabes in this category are Wes Ferguson, Mike Oliver and Ishe Smith.
Barrios is the man. Just this week at a press conference he called Valero a long haired prostitute commie. :cool:Quote:
Originally Posted by HulkDon't forget Barrios.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
And you are really starting to abuse that particular smiley face my friend.
I think its time for an intervention...
Guzzy is drastically aging out.