If you could combine aspects of various boxers to make the most accomplished/exciting fighter of all time, what would they be?
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If you could combine aspects of various boxers to make the most accomplished/exciting fighter of all time, what would they be?
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Originally Posted by clintuk
gee whizz, no need to combine one when you have Manny 'tripple score on the scrabble board?' Pacquiao.
Let the fun begin:-X
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nice topic....
Footwork: Ali
Hook: Joe Fraizer
Jab: Larry Holmes
Chin: Prime Morales
reflex/speed: Floyd Mayweather
heart: Evandr Holyfiled
Power: George Foreman
intimidation: Mike Tyson
Power - Julian Jackson.
Speed - reflexes - Roy Jones.
Chin - Marvin Hagler / Oliver McCall.
Footwork - Floyd Mayweather.
Work rate - Ricky Hatton / Jeff Fenech.
Right hand - Tommy Hearns.
Left hand - Joe Frazier.
Defence - Winky Wright.
Jab - Tommy Hearns / Larry Holmes.
Heart - Evander Holyfield / Dennis Andries.
Personality - Shane Mosley / Ray Robinson.
Intimidation factor - Marvin Hagler / Roberto Duran.
Machismo - Roberto Duran.
Body punching - Julio Chavez.
Prime Duran yes but is he tainted by the 'no mas' incident?Quote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Work rate - I'm going to throw Aaron Pryor in to that. Insane how he kept that up.
Heart - Wayne McCullough
Chin - George Chuvalho
Workrate - Calzaghe (a la Lacy Fight)
Two things i disagree with , Duran did quit in the leonard fight yes , but he also showed no respect for a prime Marvin Hagler ( the look he gives Marvin when he offers his hand is priceless ) also he out toughed Iran Barkley showing him no respect , so on his day he was Macho.
Also guys like Fenech were 100 miles per hour in all fights , Calzaghe wasnt in all his fights , that why i picked Fenech. Aaaron Pryor yes , he worked at 100 miles per hour also. good pick.
Jab - Ali
Right - Marciano
Left - Frazier
Chin - Hagler
Presence - Tyson
Heart - Holyfied (hard to disagree)
Speed/reactions - Ali/Mayweather
Work rate - Benn/Hatton
Agreed on almost everything except Defense-Bernard Hopkins and Intimidation- Mike TysonQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Power-Wilfredo Gomez
Speed-PBF
Defense-Whitaker
Jab-Larry Holmes
Left Hook-either DLH or Trinidad
Right Hand- Erik Morales
Foot Work- Jones Jr.
Chin- Erik Morales
Stamina- PBF
Body Work- JC Chavez
Intimidation- Duran/Hagler
Ferociousness- Hagler
Uppercut- Tyson
Resilience to cuts- Foreman lol
I dont remeber Tyson intinadating any of the better fighters he fought.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon09Agreed on almost everything except Defense-Bernard Hopkins and Intimidation- Mike TysonQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
Roy Jones Jr with David Tua's chin, and Bernard Hopkin's longevity and work ethic.
Bruce Seldon was hilarious lolQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord AlI dont remeber Tyson intinadating any of the better fighters he fought.Quote:
Originally Posted by jon09Agreed on almost everything except Defense-Bernard Hopkins and Intimidation- Mike TysonQuote:
Originally Posted by Dark Lord Al
I would just want a heavyweight with Marciano's heart and workrate, George Chuvalo's chin, George Foreman's power, Mike Tyson's handspeed, and Joe Louis' intimidation
But would Manny Pacquiao give Frankenboxer the worst ever beating???
All of the above with the height of Wladamir and ring entrances from Naz.
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Originally Posted by Lyle
Oh god man, let's not start the worst ever beating again!... you'll just get Saddo in here biggin' up Pacquiao, as if this thread or any other thread needs any more of that...
No! But I'm sure Wladdy would beat all the above in the same ring at the same time eh Lyle?Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Footwork: Ali
Hook: Joe Frazier
Jab: Larry Holmes
Chin: Jake Lamotta
reflex/speed: Roy Jones
heart: Evander Holyfield
Power: George Foreman
intimidation: George Foreman
recovery: Evander or Ali
Tattoos: Kessler
Bite radius: Tyson/Toledo
Diction: Eubank
Will to continue a career in boxing even when heart nor ability suffice: Audley Harrison
....if they had the chin of MIDDLEWEIGHT Jake LaMatta, then yes Wlad would beat themQuote:
Originally Posted by rjj tszyu
Footwork: Ali
Hook: Joe Frazier
Jab: Larry Holmes
Chin: Jake Lamotta
reflex/speed: Roy Jones
heart: Evander Holyfield
Power: George Foreman
intimidation: George Foreman
recovery: Evander or Ali
Tattoos: Kessler
Yeah why would you want to have the chin of a overrated middleweight? Lamotta would get knocked out by any half way decent heavyweight, I wouldnt even pick his chin for a middleweight. "Raging Bull" really messed up alot of you so called boxing fans, now you think this guy was superhuman.
He wasnt fighting guys with ko percentages like Pavlik,Julian Jackson, Nigel Benn, or Gerald McClellan at middleweight. He was fighting guys for the most part who had records like 40 wins 25 loses with 12 knockouts, That is why he didnt get knocked out more often. And Sugar Ray Robison was a natural 140 pounder so taking his punches didnt prove jack not to mention Ray Robinson pretty much avoiding fighting other black fighters his whole career.
George Chuvalo had a cute chin, which is why Frazier and Foreman stopped him in a few rounds. He didnt get knocked down because the ref saved him from being knocked down. If he went 10 with both Foreman and Frazier while getting hit with bombs the whole time then I would day he had a great chin but since he didnt i wont.
Chin would be Foreman, he fought until he was 38 to 48 and was never dropped or stopped. Could you imagine any heavyweight in boxing history getting hit with 20 plus punching in a row from a prime Holyfield and not being knocked down. Then could you imagine them being 42 and taking those punches?
Ali footwork? Depending on what you ment by footwork, if you ment a guy who got into the ring and ran and grabbed like a chicken then maybe Ali would be a good option. If you ment a person who could cut off the ring like no other than Foreman would be at the top of your list again
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Infact heart and jab could also be George Foreman, Just watch Briggs vs Foreman and see how a nearly 50 year old mans jab could make a 25 or so year old big man like Briggs flee like a girl. Then watch Foreman vs Alex Stewart to see heart, Foreman suffered a broken nose and his face was swollen more than I ever seen for him and yet he kept coming.
Roy Jones isnt a heavyweight so he is out of the equation. Tyson had good hand speed for a heayweight but that was because he had short arms. Buster Douglas had pretty good hand speed when he was in shape, Shannon Briggs had good hand speed before he started coming to matches weighing 270
Tommy Hearns with Hagler's chin pretty much sums up a perfect fighter.
But throw in the combinations of Meldrick Taylor and the defense of Floyd Mayweather jr.
HAHAHA... noQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Defense: Mayweather/Whitaker
Speed: Roy Jones Jr
Reflex: Roy Jones Jr
Power: Roy Jones Jr (he could throw lightining fast but hard) / Mike Tyson
Workrate: Manny Pacquiao
Chin: Rocky Balboa ;D
Intimidation factor: Mike Tyson
Accuracy: Mayweather
Counterpunching: Mayweather
Heart: I guess Evander Holyfield
Face (resiliance): NOT Arturo Gatti ;D
Longevity: B-HOP the eternal one
Can you imagine getting knocked out by Muhammad Ali in the Rumble in the JungleQuote:
Originally Posted by GeorgeForeman8