Klitschko vs Haye Collapsed AGAIN!!!

Klitschko-Haye Update!

Talks between the camps of IBF/WBO/IBO heavyweight champion Wladimir Klitschko and David Haye appear to have collapsed. Coupled in the cancelation of a Los Angeles press conference to announce the April 11th clash between Chris Arreola and Jameel McCline, Eastern European media is running wild with reports that Wlad may now defend against Arreola on June 20. Team Klitschko has made no official announcement on who Wladimir’s next opponent will be.
March 10th, 2009

Dan Rafael attribute the most recent collapse to , David Haye's inabbility to understand that he "has virtually no leverage."

I'm stoked. I would much rather Arreola get the shot, then watching David Haye cash out.

Not surprising.

What's the Klitchsko groupies excuse this time ? Cuz Golden Boy are doing the promoting on behalf of Haye now. So clearly Haye hasn't priced himself out or some shitt.

Klitchsko is afraid, simple as.

Well twist my balls and call me Mildred, this is getting as annoying as a drawn out football transfer a la Ronaldo will he wont he?... Irritating stuff

Still, Arreola would make for an interesting fight against the big man, if a little messy :D

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Not surprising.

What's the Klitchsko groupies excuse this time ? Cuz Golden Boy are doing the promoting on behalf of Haye now. So clearly Haye hasn't priced himself out or some shitt.

Klitchsko is afraid, simple as.

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If you really believe that Klitsckho is afraid of Haye, then your are disillusional, or just blinded by your man-crush on David Haye. Arreola is much harder fight.

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Not surprising.

What's the Klitchsko groupies excuse this time ? Cuz Golden Boy are doing the promoting on behalf of Haye now. So clearly Haye hasn't priced himself out or some shitt.

Klitchsko is afraid, simple as.

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HAHA - Yeah, sounds like Haye is the guy making rediculous demands again......Why doesnt Haye just take the terms Wlad gives him, Knock out Wlad and move on to big money fights??? Wait, I know - Haye knows he is going to get KTFO....hahaha

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Not surprising.

What's the Klitchsko groupies excuse this time ? Cuz Golden Boy are doing the promoting on behalf of Haye now. So clearly Haye hasn't priced himself out or some shitt.

Klitchsko is afraid, simple as.

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well from what they're saying there Haye's asking for more than what he's worth, funny how a dude who's not even considered p4p yet is thinking he should get paid more than the dude who has 2 world titles and is considered #1 in the division, if Haye wants Wlad so bad he shouldn't be arguing so much for how much he's gonna be paid, especially if he's so confident that he'll KO him cause then the big $$$ would come right afterwards, sounds more like a way out for Haye if anything

Looks like someone should call arreolla and tell him to put the $5 foot longs down, he may have a real fight coming up.

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Originally Posted by Mar

Looks like someone should call arreolla and tell him to put the $5 foot longs down, he may have a real fight coming up.

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if Arreola comes in like he did his last fight, he's out in 3

With GBP as Haye's promoter, this fight should have no problems being put together. Something tells me it's Klit's camp and not hayes.

I cant ever remember Richard Schaeffer and GBP not being able to put a deal together before, especially if the other guy really wants to fight

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

With GBP as Haye's promoter, this fight should have no problems being put together. Something tells me it's Klit's camp and not hayes.

I cant ever remember Richard Schaeffer and GBP not being able to put a deal together before, especially if the other guy really wants to fight

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Mosley Vs Judah

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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Not surprising.

What's the Klitchsko groupies excuse this time ? Cuz Golden Boy are doing the promoting on behalf of Haye now. So clearly Haye hasn't priced himself out or some shitt.

Klitchsko is afraid, simple as.

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If you really believe that Klitsckho is afraid of Haye, then your are disillusional, or just blinded by your man-crush on David Haye. Arreola is much harder fight.

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Jesus Christ. Arrerola is a fat slob who got dropped and nearly stopped by a glorified club fighter in Travis Walker last time out.

Haye probably is bein a premadonna and fuckin up negotiations.

But David Haye is much faster, more talented, and equally as powerful if not more so than Arreola.

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

With GBP as Haye's promoter, this fight should have no problems being put together. Something tells me it's Klit's camp and not hayes.

I cant ever remember Richard Schaeffer and GBP not being able to put a deal together before, especially if the other guy really wants to fight

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Wlad is going out of his way to get a fight with Haye made......If he didnt want to fight Haye all he would have to say is "Haye is not ranked and if Haye wants to fight he should work his way up the rankings"

OBVIOUSLY haye is demanding too much........There have been many athletes at one time or another in the NFL, NBA, MLB and pro boxing that have taken a pay cut to play for a team that gives them a great opportunity to win a championship...Haye needs to take a cue from them, take this fight with the thought of huge paydays in the future (if he thinks he will win)....Obviously Haye knows when the fight ends he will be horizontal so he is trying to find a way out..........

Also did Haye think by disrespecting Wlad and his brother, they would just give Haye whatever he wants in negotiations??? haha Haye needs Wlad, not the other way around.....Haye is a joke....

For all that big talk Haye is turning out to look like a pathetic fool......

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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut

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Originally Posted by leftylee

Not surprising.

What's the Klitchsko groupies excuse this time ? Cuz Golden Boy are doing the promoting on behalf of Haye now. So clearly Haye hasn't priced himself out or some shitt.

Klitchsko is afraid, simple as.

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If you really believe that Klitsckho is afraid of Haye, then your are disillusional, or just blinded by your man-crush on David Haye. Arreola is much harder fight.

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Jesus Christ. Arrerola is a fat slob who got dropped and nearly stopped by a glorified club fighter in Travis Walker last time out.

Haye probably is bein a premadonna and fuckin up negotiations.

But David Haye is much faster, more talented, and equally as powerful if not more so than Arreola.

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Walker is a better fighter than the 95 year old Thompson who stopped Haye

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Originally Posted by Hunter

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

With GBP as Haye's promoter, this fight should have no problems being put together. Something tells me it's Klit's camp and not hayes.

I cant ever remember Richard Schaeffer and GBP not being able to put a deal together before, especially if the other guy really wants to fight

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Wlad is going out of his way to get a fight with Haye made......If he didnt want to fight Haye all he would have to say is "Haye is not ranked and if Haye wants to fight he should work his way up the rankings"

OBVIOUSLY haye is demanding too much........There have been many athletes at one time or another in the NFL, NBA, MLB and pro boxing that have taken a pay cut to play for a team that gives them a great opportunity to win a championship...Haye needs to take a cue from them, take this fight with the thought of huge paydays in the future (if he thinks he will win)....Obviously Haye knows when the fight ends he will be horizontal so he is trying to find a way out..........

Also did Haye think by disrespecting Wlad and his brother, they would just give Haye whatever he wants in negotiations??? haha Haye needs Wlad, not the other way around.....Haye is a joke....

For all that big talk Haye is turning out to look like a pathetic fool......

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I agree. Haye is just trying get as much as he can for his knock out loss. But he's overestimating his worth.

Haye isn't responsible for these negotiations breaking down at all. Vlad is just bottling the fight and fighting a fat plodder instead. The Klitschkos are terrified of fighting somebody with a pulse or somebody who isn't 100 pounds overweight so they've both bottled out of fighting Haye.

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

With GBP as Haye's promoter, this fight should have no problems being put together. Something tells me it's Klit's camp and not hayes.

I cant ever remember Richard Schaeffer and GBP not being able to put a deal together before, especially if the other guy really wants to fight

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Mosley Vs Judah

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Judah got a freak injury at the 11th hour, and Mosely moved on instead of waiting for Judah to heal

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Haye isn't responsible for these negotiations breaking down at all. Vlad is just bottling the fight and fighting a fat plodder instead. The Klitschkos are terrified of fighting somebody with a pulse or somebody who isn't 100 pounds overweight so they've both bottled out of fighting Haye.

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Vitali is set to fight Juan Carlos Gomez. A much better fighter than Haye. And unlike Haye one who wasn't scared to earn his title shot.

I am so bored of this now, fk it, hope wlad does fight Arreola cos prob a bigger fight to be honest.

but not sure haye is afraid of facing wlad as he has stated thats the fight he wants on numerous occasions, he could quite easily just fight other fighters instead.

think everone getting sick of this shit, the media will be staying away from it next as on off on off fk this shit:mad:

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

Haye isn't responsible for these negotiations breaking down at all. Vlad is just bottling the fight and fighting a fat plodder instead. The Klitschkos are terrified of fighting somebody with a pulse or somebody who isn't 100 pounds overweight so they've both bottled out of fighting Haye.

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Vitali is set to fight Juan Carlos Gomez. A much better fighter than Haye. And unlike Haye one who wasn't scared to earn his title shot.

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Vitali originally claimed that the Haye fight was bigger than the WBC belt and if the WBC didn't sanction the Haye fight next he'd dump the belt and fight haye. Then he got cold feet, bottled out of the Haye fight and signed to fight Gomez, hiding behind his no-hoper mandatory.

I'm looking at Gomez' record. Ooooh, that's an impressive cv he's got. What did he do to earn a shot at a title?

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by JT Rock

With GBP as Haye's promoter, this fight should have no problems being put together. Something tells me it's Klit's camp and not hayes.

I cant ever remember Richard Schaeffer and GBP not being able to put a deal together before, especially if the other guy really wants to fight

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Mosley Vs Judah

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Judah got a freak injury at the 11th hour, and Mosely moved on instead of waiting for Judah to heal

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by freak injury you must mean scared shitless ;D, cause to punch through a glass shower door that's the state of mind you gotta be in when you're close to one of the biggest fights in your career lol, and yea Judah fought before Mosley did if i remember correctly

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I'm looking at Gomez' record. Ooooh, that's an impressive cv he's got. What did he do to earn a shot at a title?

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work his way up the rankings (although seriously flawed rankings) and actually have a career at heavy lol, what the hell has Haye done to deserve a shot at either Klitschko, hell at any title at heavy?:-\

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I'm looking at Gomez' record. Ooooh, that's an impressive cv he's got. What did he do to earn a shot at a title?

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work his way up the rankings (although seriously flawed rankings) and actually have a career at heavy lol, what the hell has Haye done to deserve a shot at either Klitschko, hell at any title at heavy?:-\

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the heavyweights at the moment are so fkin shite, I deserve a title shot;D

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I'm looking at Gomez' record. Ooooh, that's an impressive cv he's got. What did he do to earn a shot at a title?

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work his way up the rankings (although seriously flawed rankings) and actually have a career at heavy lol, what the hell has Haye done to deserve a shot at either Klitschko, hell at any title at heavy?:-\

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So Oliver McCall and somebody called Vladimir Virchis are highly ranked heavyweights?

man i miss the good old heavyweight days:mad:

the good old days are anydays that were not the last couple of yrs

its gotta be the worst weight catagory

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I'm looking at Gomez' record. Ooooh, that's an impressive cv he's got. What did he do to earn a shot at a title?

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work his way up the rankings (although seriously flawed rankings) and actually have a career at heavy lol, what the hell has Haye done to deserve a shot at either Klitschko, hell at any title at heavy?:-\

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So Oliver McCall and somebody called Vladimir Virchis are highly ranked heavyweights?

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They easily trump Barrett and Bonin (:lolhaha:)

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

work his way up the rankings (although seriously flawed rankings) and actually have a career at heavy lol, what the hell has Haye done to deserve a shot at either Klitschko, hell at any title at heavy?:-\

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So Oliver McCall and somebody called Vladimir Virchis are highly ranked heavyweights?

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They easily trump Barrett and Bonin (:lolhaha:)

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How is a washed up ex-drug addict or some eastern European significantly better than Monte barrett?

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

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Originally Posted by Violent Demise

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

So Oliver McCall and somebody called Vladimir Virchis are highly ranked heavyweights?

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They easily trump Barrett and Bonin (:lolhaha:)

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How is a washed up ex-drug addict or some eastern European significantly better than Monte barrett?

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Cuz there better fighters. And neither has ever been knocked out by Cliff Couser

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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales

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Originally Posted by Kirkland Laing

I'm looking at Gomez' record. Ooooh, that's an impressive cv he's got. What did he do to earn a shot at a title?

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work his way up the rankings (although seriously flawed rankings) and actually have a career at heavy lol, what the hell has Haye done to deserve a shot at either Klitschko, hell at any title at heavy?:-\

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the heavyweights at the moment are so fkin shite, I deserve a title shot;D

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For a moderate fee, the CFH Sanctioning body would be willing to install you as our number one contender.

Haye just needs to fuck off and fight somebody. He goes up and beats Monte Barrett and thinks he can dictate the HW division?? What a poser, clown and muppet he is! The Klitschko's should just wash their hands of him and tell him to work his way back to the discussion table by actually proving something at HW. Prize prat, he obviously isn't up to the challenge at all. :rolleyes:

Why doesn't Haye just try to fight Arreola then?

Klit vs. Arreola (tell me that's not a porno title)
isn't signed yet. If Haye really wants to make his point he would get GBP to fully back him in a fight against the Nightmare. You can sit there and bitch about it and NOT fight OR you can eliminate the options Wlad has and fight.

I think I've heard Haye saying he will fight Klit for free... What happen to that??

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

I think I've heard Haye saying he will fight Klit for free... What happen to that??

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Haye has to be for real...what man would not jump at the chance to face the klits for free? :cwm13:

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

I think I've heard Haye saying he will fight Klit for free... What happen to that??

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Haye has to be for real...what man would not jump at the chance to face the klits for free? :cwm13:

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From what I understand, Haye willing to accept peanuts just to prove he's "the best heavyweight" out there... Better for Haye to go back to cruiser??
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I'm guessing Haye can still make 200 lbs. ... Adamek and Guillermo Jones can give Haye a good fight at cruiser and possibly beat his ass too... :p
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

I'm guessing Haye can still make 200 lbs. ... Adamek and Guillermo Jones can give Haye a good fight at cruiser and possibly beat his ass too... :p
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I doubt his body would let him to be honest.

I don't trust a word Rafael says he seems to have too 'intimate' a relationship with the Klits' people.

With GBP running negotiations, I can't see it being Haye fuckin dis up anymore

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Originally Posted by leftylee

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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer

I'm guessing Haye can still make 200 lbs. ... Adamek and Guillermo Jones can give Haye a good fight at cruiser and possibly beat his ass too... :p
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I doubt his body would let him to be honest.

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OK i'll take your word for that... Adamek and Jones are more than willing to beat Haye at heavyweight... ;)
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Originally Posted by leftylee

Not surprising.

What's the Klitchsko groupies excuse this time ? Cuz Golden Boy are doing the promoting on behalf of Haye now. So clearly Haye hasn't priced himself out or some shitt.

Klitchsko is afraid, simple as.

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If you really believe that Klitsckho is afraid of Haye, then your are disillusional, or just blinded by your man-crush on David Haye. Arreola is much harder fight.

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If you seriously think Arreola is a much harder fight then you are seriously delusional - not disillusional ;D

How can Haye have no leverage? Undisputed Cruiserweight champion. A much bigger name than Arreola.

The Klit's just want to take the easy fights against the slow overweight plodders who pose zero threat.....whilst taking 75% of the purse home with them. Can't blame them, it's business afterall.

Haye is quick enough and agile enough to make them fight rather than jab and hold their way to a UD.Haye is the only other heavyweight i can think of who is actually in fighting condition. The rest are a joke.

I want to see something official on this whole drama. Im strugglin to believe haye would throw away his dream chance by being over demanding, but this is whats being said and i want to know.

I cant see Vlad not wanting this fight, he has every rite to swat Haye away and tell him to earn his chance but looking at other opponants out there i think the only 1 that could generate more money is a fight with his own brother which clearly aint guna happen.

I have heard thats Haye is demanding way too much of the split, i want to know how much of the split cuz unless its something ridiculous he should take it with both hands. Im also hearing the Klitchkos are demanding allsorts of add ons and clauses be added to the contract and that these add ons are a bit of a joke which virtually adds up to if Haye wins hes not allowed to fight anybody but a Klitchko untill hes been beaten.

Im strugglin to believe this contract is so akward to sign or anytihng but i may be being biased towards my fellow country man but im putting the blame on the Klitchkos. But as i say i want to see something official so we know whats really goin on, either that or just cancel the bastard cuz yet again a build up to a fight is becomin some sort of circus farce.

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I'm guessing Haye can still make 200 lbs. ... Adamek and Guillermo Jones can give Haye a good fight at cruiser and possibly beat his ass too... :p
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I doubt his body would let him to be honest.

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OK i'll take your word for that... Adamek and Jones are more than willing to beat Haye at heavyweight... ;)
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And i'm willing to have a threesome with Angelina Jolie and Kelly Brook...