Printable View
Undoubtedly the most succesful rock n`roll band of at least the last 20 years and are regarded in that manner pretty much the world over with god like status back in the UK.
But why exactly did Oasis never quite manage to crack america like the beatles/stones/u2 and all those great bands before them??
Why werent "wonderwall" and "dont look back in anger" hits stateside, why was arguably the 2 greatest albums of the 1990s "whats the story morning glory" "definitely maybe" flops over in the US?
I liked their music fine..but I do remember them saying in an interview that they were going to be bigger than the beatles or something...Then I never really heard them again. During the early 90's they were also up against a real strong alternative rock movement such as Pear Jam, Nirvana and Sound Garden
is this a serious question? Oasis didn't crack america like the beatles because of timing. this is not 40 years ago.. COMPLETELY different scene.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
On top of that, i wouldn't say they didn't "make it" in america. Everyone knows oasis, everyone has their CD's. It was the soundtrack to my middle school days.
I don't know, but one thing is for sure, Manny Pacquiao could give them their worst ever beating.
Music radio/tv in America is all fucked up, I have no fucking clue what MTV, VH1, Fuse, etc are doing on TV and music on the radio was crap when it came out and 5 years later it's still crap.
Sure people like messing with me about liking The Darkness and all (The Darkness were way better than Crossfade, Nickleback, etc etc etc IMO) but honestly there are a ton of great bands who never get airplay on the radio or tv...KINGS OF LEON for one doesn't get any run on tv or the radio. Hell if I tried I couldn't even get The Hives, The Strokes, The Killers, or Electric Six on the radio but I would be hard pressed to not find Kid Rock on the radio.....WHAT THE FUCK?!?!?! Kid fucking Rock....can someone round him, Fred Durst, and Eminem up and shoot them into the Sun??
Right now, the internet is saving music through iTunes, Pandora, etc.
Oasis was ok...but just as a regular average joe American, we're kind of tired of the hype jobs coming out of England. Sure The Beatles were great, as were The Rolling Stones, The Who, etc etc etc. but for every big act to make it here in America there's another act to fall flat on their face. To put it in boxing terms for every Lennox Lewis there are a couple of Danny Williams, a couple Michael Sprotts, and a whole lot more Audley Harrison's
Oasis was pretty fucking big in America (and here in Canada), however when their music started to become somewhat redundant, people lost interest. I absolutely love their first 3 cds (and the B-Sides Masterplan disk), I could probably list almost every song on them, but I completely lost interest after that because their music became boring and just the same old same old.
Oasis didn't flop over here...
'Definently Maybe', 'What's the Story Morning Glory', and 'Be Here Now' went platinum here....Morning Glory hit platinum 4 times.
That's not flopping at all, they did very well.
I personally don't like the whiney music....I like Oasis and I like Radiohead but can't we have some happy music every now and then??? The good news is I like those bands better than Pearl Jam and Nirvana who were extremely depressing and annoying.
Are they the band that had the song about an Aeroplane (real annoying and repititive)?
I remember the songs from like a decade ago. I think they were really successful. They didnt have anything revolutionary or the versatility to even be compared to the beatles. And I dont like the beatles.
Aeroplane was done by Red Hot Chili Peppers
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v7oZIFqbkjg
Oasis did 'Wonderwall' and 'Champagne Supernova'
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6hzrDeceEKc
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g3C7DECI0jU
Yeah that wasnt the song I was talking about, but thanks.
They got boring after a while, but they weren't a flop, definitely not with wonderwall and all of that, that was huge for a while, I still listen to Definitely Maybe every once in a while, everything else, no.
Oasis were fantastic for a time, it fell apart for me with Be Here Now and they haven't quite got it back ever since. Always 4 good songs on each album though. I absolutely detest Wonderwall.
I detest Miles's bitching.
You are a very pugnacious man. I like it.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
Come on now. It was only a mild bitch here, Booze. I've done far worse bitching than this. Be Here Now should have been ruled a NC.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
I'm afraid I must disagree. Be Here Now, while not on the same level as ...Morning Glory or Definitely Maybe was still a very good album. It was the last good Oasis album IMO, and I'm Canadian so I would know :p.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesCome on now. It was only a mild bitch here, Booze. I've done far worse bitching than this. Be Here Now should have been ruled a NC.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
Anyone else think that HattontheHammer looks like Bilbo?
I think there are good tracks on it, but it is a meandering album. It's too long and too much filler. I really like "Stand by me", "Don't go away" and "fade-in-out". But that's it really. Tracks like "Magic Pie" and "The girl in the dirty shirt" are beyond awful IMO. The rockier tracks that Oasis are usually good at have fall short too. It's all over produced.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI'm afraid I must disagree. Be Here Now, while not on the same level as ...Morning Glory or Definitely Maybe was still a very good album. It was the last good Oasis album IMO, and I'm Canadian so I would know :p.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesCome on now. It was only a mild bitch here, Booze. I've done far worse bitching than this. Be Here Now should have been ruled a NC.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxer
I don't think Oasis have made a good album since "Morning Glory". I will quit the bitching in case Booze goes off on one! ;D
You are getting into some deep shit with that! LOL!! ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by CFH
I see what you're saying. I certainly don't think it's nearly as good as Morning Glory or Definitely Maybe, or even The Masterplan. I just don't think its as bad as what came after.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI think there are good tracks on it, but it is a meandering album. It's too long and too much filler. I really like "Stand by me", "Don't go away" and "fade-in-out". But that's it really. Tracks like "Magic Pie" and "The girl in the dirty shirt" are beyond awful IMO. The rockier tracks that Oasis are usually good at have fall short too. It's all over produced.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI'm afraid I must disagree. Be Here Now, while not on the same level as ...Morning Glory or Definitely Maybe was still a very good album. It was the last good Oasis album IMO, and I'm Canadian so I would know :p.Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
I don't think Oasis have made a good album since "Morning Glory". I will quit the bitching in case Booze goes off on one! ;D
Yeah, I really like The Masterplan too. Be Here Now has songs that just don't end. I think there must be over ten minutes of All around the world on there. There is only so much man can take. Yeah, Oasis have lost it since then. They have a few tracks from each one I like, but it's like picking the gems from a mound of manure.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHI see what you're saying. I certainly don't think it's nearly as good as Morning Glory or Definitely Maybe, or even The Masterplan. I just don't think its as bad as what came after.Quote:
Originally Posted by milesI think there are good tracks on it, but it is a meandering album. It's too long and too much filler. I really like "Stand by me", "Don't go away" and "fade-in-out". But that's it really. Tracks like "Magic Pie" and "The girl in the dirty shirt" are beyond awful IMO. The rockier tracks that Oasis are usually good at have fall short too. It's all over produced.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
I don't think Oasis have made a good album since "Morning Glory". I will quit the bitching in case Booze goes off on one! ;D
I always thought they did ok in the USA
If they didn't then they wouldn't be the biggest band not to make it there. People forget that Fun Boy Three, Haircut 100 and Brother Beyond also flopped there.
Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
hahaha
Anyone remember around 10/12 years ago Oasis were in the US touring and Liam was acting the prick?
Spitting at the crowds and giving it the Big un then Oasis were booked to do a live MTV unplugged session and Liam pulled out on the day claiming a sore throat.
Noel had to do it on his own and pulled it off well but Liam was sitting in the crowd chain smoking and drinking all the way through.
Think he had a huge row with Noel and faked an illness which seriously pissed off the TV company and they never really cracked it from then on.
Sales were pretty good but i think Liam just pissed too many people off in the process and the media shunned them.
Know for a fact that MTV incident caused a huge row between the Brothers.
Liam was also heckling Noel as well
Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Yeah i remember, he was sitting there with his ex wife Patsy Kensit basically acting a tosser and downing drink after drink and chain smoking.
That gig could have been the making of them in the US and Liam fucked it.
To be fair though they sold out 3 or 4 Wembley stadium gigs a few months ago in about 2 hours and with 90,000 at each gig must be doing something right.
They have a massive UK hardcore following that will always be there.
I hear Noel is gonna be bringing a solo album out sooner or later and i've always preferred his voice to Liams to be honest.
Noel is Oasis basically.
same sort of thing (brother rivalry) happened to The Kinks....a far greater band IMO
Forgot to say i met Liam in an after hours Sunday club in Ibiza about 6/7 years ago and he was in there out of his brains alone acting like a prick too.
Spitting at girls after a pic etc and calling Noel a "C*nt" etc.
Basically an idiot i thought.
hell of an observation, my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Ah, they were my favourite band when I was about 7 or 8, until I discovered rap. There still a few of there songs that I love, 'Wonderwall' being obvious, and 'Don't Go Away' off Be Here Now was another classic. They did seem to become shit though, producing stuff that sounded like the older stuff but was a kinda crappier version. Fuck the Gallagher brothers though, pair of pricks. Don't mind Noel so much, but didn't like his biitchin over Jay-Z bein at Glastonbury. Liam is just an all-round cunt
Quote:
Originally Posted by RP33hell of an observation, my friend.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
I said this last week to Bilbo. Ha ha ha. He said, "don't say that." ha ha ha
I hate Oasis!!:mad:Liam is a total nob.Their are playing live up in Sunderland near where i live soon and everybody is over the moon that their playing up here in the northeast of england.....i could'nt give a toss:mad:.The Verve were and are still are a better band!!!
I notice Liam's arse feel out when that big photographer squared up to him!!He truly shit himself.I remember seeing the picture of him in the paper recently.The photographer woul of and should of lamped him there and then!!I would of:mad:
Agree 100% - Their first 2 albums were immense. The latest album is probabaly the best since Be Here NowQuote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Bilbo looks like me.......
Another notch on bilbos CV i suppose
PS:Boozeboxer = freddy roach and Jonathon Lipnicki combined
:lolhaha::lolhaha:
For the record,I cant stand Oasis,unless its late and I need a nap.Now the Godfathers should have been huge,"Because I Said So" should have equalled an instant retirement package alone. But Oasis was huge in the states,I have no idea why
Hey wait a second,"Love Plus 1" sold pretty well in the states,now Terence Trent D'arby there's a US flop,and how could you forget Sigue Sigue Sputnik(who are back together by the way)Quote:
Originally Posted by Mark TKO
Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
Thank you.
Are Oasis the biggest ever band to not make it in america??
I hope so .
Quote:
Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl
Another guy who clearly mistakes oasis for coldplay
Have you ever actually seen Oasis live??
youtube rock n`roll star, acquiesce, its getting better man`, headshrinker etc and then tell me they play dreary chris martin esque music.
For what its worth you can like or dislike coldplay - but one thing you cannot do is call them a rock band....unlike oasis
Bro,I listen to the Exploited,and FEAR,in comparison Oasis is coma inducingQuote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Tilt A Whirl
Another guy who clearly mistakes oasis for coldplay
Have you ever actually seen Oasis live??
youtube rock n`roll star, acquiesce, its getting better man`, headshrinker etc and then tell me they play dreary chris martin esque music.
For what its worth you can like or dislike coldplay - but one thing you cannot do is call them a rock band....unlike oasis
http://akamai-static.nme.com/images/...coustic_PA.jpg
Noel Gallagher:
"A fuckin' disaster,” he wrote. "Knocked out in two rounds. Crushed. I guess the cheque will soften the blow, but still… fuck! Never mind, we can all help him drown his sorrows at Heaton Park" [in Manchester, where Oasis will play three shows in June].
Noel Gallagher: 'Oasis is a rudderless ship' | News | NME.COM
Quote:
Originally Posted by smashup
Missed opportunity there ..stir the shit out of him until he attacked you take a few hits in the right seen places, block the rest and then take alot of his money.