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Hey im still in my teens and am pretty happy with my current strength although it could be better.
Im 6"3 and am rather thin come to that; i've looked a little into how I can get bigger (outwards) and was wondering if any of you guys had any tips on how I could bulk up a bit
I do have access to a gym so all suggestions welcome
Thanks :)
rahh 6'3 your quite a tall moawfooka
hehe yea I eat quite a bit aswell but it never seems to add on (which I guess is good and bad)
Head to a body building forum man, they will be able to help you the most over there :)
I wouldnt do that. They're a bunch of douche bags imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty
If you want to gain weight you need to eat more calories than you burn. Start eating 5 or 6 meals per day with protein, carbs, fats and fiber in each. This along with lifting heavy weights will help you gain muscle.
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Thanks man gonna have a look through all these now. Your right about the body builiding forums there way too full of themselves to help anybody outQuote:
Originally Posted by wesrmanI wouldnt do that. They're a bunch of douche bags imo.Quote:
Originally Posted by Salty
If you want to gain weight you need to eat more calories than you burn. Start eating 5 or 6 meals per day with protein, carbs, fats and fiber in each. This along with lifting heavy weights will help you gain muscle.
Training:
Feel like posting your self-made-and-likely-inefficient split? Maybe Read this first - WorldFitness Training Forum
FREE StrongLifts 5×5 eBook: How to Build Muscle & Lose Fat Through Strength Training in Only 3 Workouts Per Week | StrongLifts.com
Weight Training 101 - WorldFitness Training Forum
Nutrition:
LV's Grocery List - WorldFitness Training Forum
Nutrition 101 - WorldFitness Training Forum
John Berardi - Solving the Post Workout Puzzle Part I
John Berardi - Solving the Post Workout Puzzle - Part II
Calorie Calculator
FitDay - Free Weight Loss and Diet Journal
Are you into boxing? If so, you don't want to get bigger, all you want to do is get stronger. I'm a thin guy but I'm very strong for my weight, people are suprised by my power all the time even though on the outside I look rather weak. Do you want to get stronger or you want to get bigger? They are two very different things.
Yes i'm a fighter but I would've thought that by getting stronger getting bigger came with the package? Strength is what im looking for as it is for my fightingQuote:
Originally Posted by Rocky Balboa
Im intruged to hear what you do if thats the case
Lift heavy but dont overdo the calories. :thumb:
Heers a couple more links to check out.
RossTraining.com • Index page
RossTraining - Articles
Thanks again man! I'll rep you when I can ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by wesrman
Eat lots of high protein goodies. Trail mix, beef jerkys, steaks, any candy bar with 30gm+ protein (real cheap at the cosco), and work out like an animal.
Size and strength are two very different things. I learnt to train via Ross Enamait's books (see wesrman's links). His books are absolutely great! They are worth their weight in gold and taught me a boat-load of stuff. I have "Never Gymless", a book on only bodyweight exercise, and it goes way beyond just push-ups and squats. The book teaches you how to make a good program (for a combat athelete) to give you maximal strength, explosive strength, endurance strength, anaerobic conditioning, and aerobic conditioning. When I first got it, I spent 4 hours reading that book without stopping for an instant. I learnt a ton. I highly recommend any of his three books. Every single sentence in there teaches you a ton. It will explain WAY more than I can in a single thread.Quote:
Originally Posted by Chris24-7
Well if you're trying to bulk up just for looks then burn outs and "pumping" when you're tired works pretty good along with good nutrition, lots of protein after workouts.
You may want to stagger your workouts so you focus on certain muscle groups on certain days, for example Monday: Chest & Back Tuesday: Biceps & Triceps.
You may also want to try super setting to really feel the burn. For example on biceps I do 3 sets of 7 reps for curls but I do 3 types of curls back to back to back. 1st from a resting position (while you're standing up or leaning against a wall to keep from rocking, the bar is down at your hips)...so from resting position to the halfway point of a regular curl and then back down in a slow and controlled manner, do that 7 times. Do not rest, the 2nd exercise starts with the bar resting in the finished full curl position and you go halfway down and then back up to the resting position, once again 7 times. Once you have done a set of the halfway up and halfway down curls you do not rest and you do a set of full curls. You want to start out heavy and end light....I used to start with a 45 on each side and then go down 5/10 pounds on each side every time I finished a full set until I was just curling the bar. And when I got to the lighter weights (under 20 pounds a side) I would work in reverse curls, where the grip is reversed but the exercise is the exact same. If you do that and maybe throw in some dips (either real dips or the seated ones with the machine like a little girl ;) )
When you bench you start off with lighter weight well do that maybe 10 times, add weight do that maybe 8 times, add weight and do that 6 times and if you are a glutton for punishment you can go back down the 8 and 10 reps....it'll hurt you ;D
He already stated that he doesnt want to bulk..lol. He just wants to get stronger.
Going by the title, I will assume he wants to add weight as well as strengthen.
OP, in the last year I have gained 25 lbs. Now granted, this is in part simple due to normal growth as I've grown nearly 3 inches in that time as well but I made it a point to work on strength training and muscle building during.
It has been largely successful due to a combination of eating, workouts and supplements. First thing I did was overhaul my diet and got rid of all processed and junk food. All snacks, pop, fast food etc. Then I had a diet put together for me that essentially worked well-rounded hitting all the food group meals into my day. Above and beyond that, paying attention to load up on carbs pre workout, an making sure to have protein after.
One thing I found is that when I began intense workouts, I was often experience many muscle strains and aches. It was then I decided to incorporate supplementing. Thru this board and various other boxers and trainers, I found that it was helpful to start taking a combination of post workout whey protein + L-glutamine. 30 grams pure protein and 5 grams glutamine 10-15 mins after each intense workout, for both running and weight...and also long sparring sessions. What I found was the strains and aches immediately went away and I began to really then notice a difference in muscle growth. I also take a good liquid multi vitamin and glucosamine.
My routine is and was very regimented, one day weight/strength training, the next cardio and skill oriented. Proper days off for rest etc. Making sure to change it up as I go understanding plateau to maximize potential as well.
Anyway, this is just a brief look into what has worked for me over the last year in my goal which sounds similar to yours, as I too am very tall for my age and was exactly where you seem to be now as for gaining strength and power on a lean frame. If you want specifics as to workout types and schedules used during etc, I can send stuff/routines I've done to you to maybe try out.
Good luck and welcome to Saddos. :)
^^ Read the thread before posting Youngblood. :PQuote:
Originally Posted by Chris24-7Yes i'm a fighter but I would've thought that by getting stronger getting bigger came with the package? Strength is what im looking for as it is for my fightingQuote:
Originally Posted by Rocky Balboa
Im intruged to hear what you do if thats the case
I read every word of it.Quote:
Originally Posted by wesrman
And try reading my post properly and save the dikshit stuff for off topic threads. Not everyone in boxing only wants to get stronger and not bigger. For some, and I think you would understand this being a hard gainer, adding weight with strength/muscle is the goal. As stated in my first line, I was addressing the thread title, then providing my back story. The OP can take from the thread what he wants, and hopefully it is many perspectives.
This is a boxing training forum and we all come with differing views and approaches, goals. I hope we don't all agree on every topic, otherwise we are likely to often be wrong following one path like sheep.
So yea, that. ;)
No need to get all pissy about it, i was kidding. Just because its not off topic doesnt mean we cant have a bit of fun.
You started your post with this:
"Going by the title, I will assume he wants to add weight as well as strengthen."
He stated that he doesnt want to bulk, he was confused.
Thats why i said read the thread. So relax a bit buddy, its only the interwebs. :thumb:
lol well he didn't decide anything, he said he would like to hear more. He started the thread wanting to know about gaining/bulking and Rocky told him he doesn't want that. That just isn't always true. Often, but not always. Some people are proper skinny runts and need to bulk, and I know as I myself was in that category.
So I provided info. and have lots more for him if he wants it.
And I'm always chill wesrman, ol' buddy. :)
I say I want to bulk because when I see myself I believe im too thin to pack a strong hit in my boxing and was looking for ways to get bigger until someone mentioned going off the whole weight thing and turning to pure strength. My knowledge on workouts is pretty limited (wasn't really sure what I was looking to do) so I came on here looking for a range of suggestions so thanks for all the input :)
Gaining strength is my main objective for obvious reasons but being 6"3 my arms etc are very thin/skinny so im taking all into account (boxing is only a small part of my life)
Thanks :)
Doesn't really work that way but if you do lighter weights and more reps I guess it will do more toning but eventually you grow muscle and bulk up a bit and the best way to keep from getting "musclebound" is to stretch before and after working out.Quote:
Originally Posted by wesrman
If your a fighter, then bulk is a REAL four letter word to you. there are a lot of great programs out there for fighters, but ive never heard of them advicating bulking programs. try things like crossfit, ross boxing, or muscle confusion techniques. ive got a buddy that puts up free training videos on youtube and myspace he works for underground fight channel, and trains boxers and mma fighters in rogers arkansas, you might check him out (aaron kimball). but stay away from weightlifter forums, and bodybuilders, they are not fighters!!!!
Ya it works that way.
Many people get stronger without adding weight. Olympic lifters do it all the time, and ive done it many times.
If you dont eat more calories than you burn, you wont gain weight. But you can still be getting stronger while maintaining a certain weight or close to it.
If you add muscle you add weight...you can strengthen muscles only so much before gaining more weight unless you overtrain and then you lose weight....I fell victim to overtraining and dropped 46 pounds in a matter of maybe 1 1/2-2 months....but I wasn't stronger on account of how much weight I dropped
You can get stronger without adding a lot of muscle or weight.
Ever tried isometrics??
I guess just doing pushups and pullups and maybe swimming would help but I've never had to do that type of training, I just worked on speed and explosive power and right now just staying in shape which just means a shit ton of cardio
hey i'm new here and i just wanna know how to lose weight fast and have some abs?
Lots of cardio. Run 4 miles a day. Low carb diet.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pakeeyao
4 sets of sit ups everyday. Do 50, 5 minute rest in between.
Losing weight and keeping it off is never a fast process unless something is wrong with you or you're doing something that hurts your body.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pakeeyao
Running, swimming, lots of cardio...loads of crunches, sit ups, hanging ab-strap workouts and changing your diet around will help you lose weight and tone up
You weren't born with them ??? ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Pakeeyao
Efficient, thats the secret, Biomechanical Excellance with the Motor ;D
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