Man, he did some brutal chilling tonight.
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Man, he did some brutal chilling tonight.
That was clean man, Figeroa was out on contact, KO of the year so far.Quote:
Originally Posted by holmcall
Shades of Hearns!!!!!!
Don't be ridiculous....Great right hand last night thrown with some good power but Bailey is no shades of Hearns....Tommy's right hand as a ww should have been outlawed...He hit that hard with it...Quote:
Originally Posted by holmcall
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahnDon't be ridiculous....Great right hand last night thrown with some good power but Bailey is no shades of Hearns....Tommy's right hand as a ww should have been outlawed...He hit that hard with it...Quote:
Originally Posted by holmcall
77.78 vs. 71.64 re KO percentages in favor of Baileyl. More clean icings. I have seen him fight often.
Are you saying that no one can be compared to Hearns? You know, guys like G-man, Jackson, others? "Shades of Hearns" doesn't mean the same thing as "same as Hearns." What it means is that Bailey reminds me of Hearns. IMO. And I don't think that's a stretch at all.
Maybe a thicker version of Roger Mayweather.Laser straight right but a chin,balance that catches up at times ??
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Originally Posted by holmcall
That's a good one.
Actually, I thought you were going to say that kid Jamal who was in my high school psychology class.
His power is right up there with the hardest punchers of all time. He may not quite have the skills of Hearns, but his power is absolutely comparable.
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Originally Posted by DaxxKahnDon't be ridiculous....Great right hand last night thrown with some good power but Bailey is no shades of Hearns....Tommy's right hand as a ww should have been outlawed...He hit that hard with it...Quote:
Originally Posted by holmcall
77.78 vs. 71.64 re KO percentages in favor of Baileyl. More clean icings. I have seen him fight often.
Are you saying that no one can be compared to Hearns? You know, guys like G-man, Jackson, others? "Shades of Hearns" doesn't mean the same thing as "same as Hearns." What it means is that Bailey reminds me of Hearns. IMO. And I don't think that's a stretch at all.
When did I say no one can be compared to Hearns?....Don't put words in my mouth....Don't twist what I say.....
As for your KO% I see you forgot who is on that list....Figuroa may be the most credible name on Baileys KO list.....,
Hearns starched guys like Cuevas, Duran, Shuler etc....
You don't think the resumes of the two are a streatch when it comes to the comp they beat and kO'd?
One thing to knock out guys with 16-2, 31-3, 12-42, records it is another to lay out HOF fighters in their primes....
agree completely with you, and you can't just go by KO % cause if we do go by that than shit, the hardest puncher of all time should be Valero seeing how his KO percentage is 100% :rolleyes:, i don't argue the fact that Bailey has nice power, but he landed cleanly on a Miguel Cotto that struggled to make weight and he never wobbled him, so he's no Hearns, and i'd like to add that he has Zab Judah syndrome meaning that he's very flaky and isn't very consistant, Hearns' power always made a mark, and he fought better competitionQuote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahnQuote:
Originally Posted by holmcall:foruml10gc5:Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
77.78 vs. 71.64 re KO percentages in favor of Baileyl. More clean icings. I have seen him fight often.
Are you saying that no one can be compared to Hearns? You know, guys like G-man, Jackson, others? "Shades of Hearns" doesn't mean the same thing as "same as Hearns." What it means is that Bailey reminds me of Hearns. IMO. And I don't think that's a stretch at all.
When did I say no one can be compared to Hearns?....Don't put words in my mouth....Don't twist what I say.....
As for your KO% I see you forgot who is on that list....Figuroa may be the most credible name on Baileys KO list.....,
Hearns starched guys like Cuevas, Duran, Shuler etc....
You don't think the resumes of the two are a streatch when it comes to the comp they beat and kO'd?
One thing to knock out guys with 16-2, 31-3, 12-42, records it is another to lay out HOF fighters in their primes....
Daxx, I gotta say something, Randall was the only man to stop Hector Lopez who was much much more credible than Figueroa. He gave Kostya hell and lost a controversial decision and gave Miguel Angel Gonzales hell too. He also beat Juan LaPorte among others. Figueroas biggest win is probably Augustus :-\ You make good points otherwise. Ive always thought Lopez was very very unlucky to have never been world champ.
Randall Bailey reminds me of Snoop Dogg. He looks like him a lot I think.
I've always liked Randall Bailey. He's a hard worker and a nice guy. Had deadly power in his right hand for his weight class too. If he catches ANYONE clean at 140 they are going on the seat of their pants.
When Cotto fought him a few years back he had to admit that Bailey hits very hard with that right hand.
I'm glad he's getting a shot at a title now. He shoulda had one when he beat that Canadian, but they screwed him.
Bailey vs. Urango could be a hell of a fight.
Bailey would be wise to look for another fight at 140 Urango will flatten him. He would have a shot but Urango has a chin, and that would be the difference.
Urango has the better chin no doubt. But he has been dropped before by Andre Eason. And Herman Ngoudo rocked him last time out too I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by No Contest
I ill admit maybe I downgraded his level of comp a bit but I think my point was valid....Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Don't get me wrong it isn't as if I don't like the guy, he is a decent fightr who can make an exciting fight go his way with one punch but my point was pretty much at what level?
Not bashing the man but on the other side can not agree he has remnants of an ATG either
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oiyBaFo1WPY
Heres some vintage Randall
I agree with that, he hasnt fough Hearns' caliber opposition. I still think hes one of the hardest 140 pound punchers in historyQuote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahnI ill admit maybe I downgraded his level of comp a bit but I think my point was valid....Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Don't get me wrong it isn't as if I don't like the guy, he is a decent fightr who can make an exciting fight go his way with one punch but my point was pretty much at what level?
Not bashing the man but on the other side can not agree he has remnants of an ATG either
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Originally Posted by BoomBoomI agree with that, he hasnt fough Hearns' caliber opposition. I still think hes one of the hardest 140 pound punchers in historyQuote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahnI ill admit maybe I downgraded his level of comp a bit but I think my point was valid....Quote:
Originally Posted by BoomBoom
Don't get me wrong it isn't as if I don't like the guy, he is a decent fightr who can make an exciting fight go his way with one punch but my point was pretty much at what level?
Not bashing the man but on the other side can not agree he has remnants of an ATG either
It is possible...Like I said I like the guy just on the compare side did not work
Didn't Hearns have a KO % of over 90 at WW?
95% I think it wasQuote:
Originally Posted by Taeth