Jeff Lacy vs. Otis Griffin result

I read it's the 10th - Friday. I didn't see that it will be on TV, seems like that should be on FNF @ the very least.

some guy whos 19-4-2 with 7 KO's.. awesome.

Hope Jeff Lacy knocks him out!

He has the heart of a champion, if not much else anymore. Terrible his shoulder had to take a dump on him like that.

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Hope Jeff Lacy knocks him out!

He has the heart of a champion, if not much else anymore. Terrible his shoulder had to take a dump on him like that.

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I agree, I think he's moved to 175 too.

He has heart and soul, I don't know who you've been watching, unfortunately he never took advantage of his athletic gifts, he would throw haymakers when his handspeed actually was half decent, and those haymakers would lessen the impact of his punches because any half decent opponent could half block his shots. He never established a jab or cross, he just loaded up on hooks.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

He has heart and soul, I don't know who you've been watching, unfortunately he never took advantage of his athletic gifts, he would throw haymakers when his handspeed actually was half decent, and those haymakers would lessen the impact of his punches because any half decent opponent could half block his shots. He never established a jab or cross, he just loaded up on hooks.

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Couldn't have said it better Taeth. Lacy has freakish power(his punch power measured more than everyone on the 2000 Olympic team) and good speed he just doesn't want to use boxing fundamentals. He only wants to go for a one or two punch knockout. He throws all loaded punches. And yes, his heart and soul are gone. I think Calzaghe did that. Lacy realizes that in deepwater he really has no plan B.

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He has heart and soul, I don't know who you've been watching, unfortunately he never took advantage of his athletic gifts, he would throw haymakers when his handspeed actually was half decent, and those haymakers would lessen the impact of his punches because any half decent opponent could half block his shots. He never established a jab or cross, he just loaded up on hooks.

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Oh come on, he didn't even try vs Taylor, he was content to follow him around & block punches with his face. If he had any respect for himself he would have retired that night.

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dude you're full of shit and you're a tool, if Lacy had no heart he would have quit against Calzaghe, he took a horrible beating and never stopped trying, he's basically a one armed fighter and the fact that he accepted to fight a very game Jermaine Taylor being a one armed fighter speaks volume of how tough and how much heart he has, go watch MMA or something cause you know jackshit about boxing

I must admit, I do kind of like Lacy for many of the reasons mentioned above. He's not a quitter, and though fairly straightforward technically, and fighting Taylor was a league too much, but if he can rehabilitate that shoulder, and even recover 80% of his previous power, it'll be a formidable weapon.

Lacy is going to have trouble with Otis. Its a good match becuase for Lacy because Otis does not hit hard, but either does Lacy. Otis has Yusaf's trainner in his corner. So I expect a win for Otis unless the ref;s favor Lacy like they usally do ALA Mendoza fight he won on ESPN that should of been a loss!

Lacy struggles to look good against anyone these days, but he should win this. I like Lacy, hopefully he can finish out his career with a few wins. He was saying on Fightnews that he might be facing Jones Jr next maybe at a catchweight.

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who cares, he's a non entity. No heart, no soul, no future

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What have you ever done with your life that gives you the right to rubbish Jeff? I bet he has more heart than you will EVER have at any stage in your life.

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who cares, he's a non entity. No heart, no soul, no future

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What have you ever done with your life that gives you the right to rubbish Jeff? I bet he has more heart than you will EVER have at any stage in your life.

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Yeah, a bit strong that. I've only ever heard one person talk about Lacy in such a way before.

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Originally Posted by scousekilla

who cares, he's a non entity. No heart, no soul, no future

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He showed tremendous heart in the Calzaghe fight.

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Originally Posted by Taeth

He has heart and soul, I don't know who you've been watching, unfortunately he never took advantage of his athletic gifts, he would throw haymakers when his handspeed actually was half decent, and those haymakers would lessen the impact of his punches because any half decent opponent could half block his shots. He never established a jab or cross, he just loaded up on hooks.

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Couldn't have said it better Taeth. Lacy has freakish power(his punch power measured more than everyone on the 2000 Olympic team) and good speed he just doesn't want to use boxing fundamentals. He only wants to go for a one or two punch knockout. He throws all loaded punches. And yes, his heart and soul are gone. I think Calzaghe did that. Lacy realizes that in deepwater he really has no plan B.

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I agree with both of you. I always enjoyed watching his fights.

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who cares, he's a non entity. No heart, no soul, no future

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What have you ever done with your life that gives you the right to rubbish Jeff? I bet he has more heart than you will EVER have at any stage in your life.

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Lacy was a fraud from the start. He got his arse handed to him by Polish American compatriat Artur Palac for the olympic qualifiers and was given an undeserving gift. If he hadn't went to the sydney olympics we'd not be talking about him. It shouldn't have happened.

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What does any of that have to do with his heart?

Never been the same since calzaghe whooped him that fight should have been stoped.

Anyone know how Lacy did tonight?

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Anyone know how Lacy did tonight?

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i had no clue that Lacy's opponent was the joke Otis Griffin from The Next Great Champ! :rolleyes: what a crock

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Anyone know how Lacy did tonight?

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i had no clue that Lacy's opponent was the joke Otis Griffin from The Next Great Champ! :rolleyes: what a crock

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He's not that bad for a comeback opponents, I've seen much worse. I'm actually quite curious to see how Griffin performs as he's being trained for this fight by J. Tandy who also trains Yusef Mack and occasionally posts here.

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Anyone know how Lacy did tonight?

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i had no clue that Lacy's opponent was the joke Otis Griffin from The Next Great Champ! :rolleyes: what a crock

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He's not that bad for a comeback opponents, I've seen much worse. I'm actually quite curious to see how Griffin performs as he's being trained for this fight by J. Tandy who also trains Yusef Mack and occasionally posts here.

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well if Lacy has 1/3 the talent he used to he should get Griffin out in 4

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Light heavyweight contender Jeff “Left Hook” Lacy (25-2, 17 KOs) won a close ten round majority decision over Otis Griffin (19-5-2, 7 KOs) on Friday night at the USF Sun Dome in Tampa, Florida. It was a competitive fight throughout with former IBF super middleweight champion Lacy winning by scores of 95-95, 96-94, 97-93. After the bout, Lacy called out Roy Jones Jr., who was in attendance.

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Light heavyweight contender Jeff “Left Hook” Lacy (25-2, 17 KOs) won a close ten round majority decision over Otis Griffin (19-5-2, 7 KOs) on Friday night at the USF Sun Dome in Tampa, Florida. It was a competitive fight throughout with former IBF super middleweight champion Lacy winning by scores of 95-95, 96-94, 97-93. After the bout, Lacy called out Roy Jones Jr., who was in attendance.

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yea Lacy needs to retire

Glad he won, but sounds like it was a bit of a struggle. :-\

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Glad he won, but sounds like it was a bit of a struggle. :-\

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and considering who it was against, he needs to retire, his win was just as bad as a loss

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Glad he won, but sounds like it was a bit of a struggle. :-\

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and considering who it was against, he needs to retire, his win was just as bad as a loss

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I think Jones Jr might be the end to his career. I can't see Lacy doing much against him. He'll take the fight, but lose widely on points. I can even see him getting stopped, but hope that won't be the case.

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Glad he won, but sounds like it was a bit of a struggle. :-\

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and considering who it was against, he needs to retire, his win was just as bad as a loss

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Lacy is not a shot fighter just yet, he can still box on another few years and make good money.

Bad resault for Lacy. To put things into perspective, he could very easily have 6 straight loses right now. I dont think hes shot, he was just never that good.

I hope they both come to their sences and mutally retire.No doubt Roy is steering for a big match off of this proposed fight?.I dont think its a good 'propelling' fight for Jones.Lacy has looked very tattered in with Mendoza and Taylor but is banking on strength,chin and inside physicality.I think he can rough Roy and his legs up.At this stage & on the way out (Both are done at top tier),Roy has name intact,Lacy is an also ran.

Otis Griffin from Oscar De La Hoya's show the next great champ was competitive against jeff lacy?

Otis has been up working with me at high altitude and was very unlucky not to get the result, even Lacy's cutman admitted they lost the fight. Otis was 2 or 3 rounds ahead at the end and was robbed. He fough a good fight and kept Lacy on the back foot for the majority of the fight. To be honest Lacy looked better than I expected but Otis was 100% better than he has been in the past.

Wow, I knew he didn't have much but Otis Griffin, even with how he's been struggling I thought he'd stop Otis.

Looks like Lacy is truly done...I heard he´s set up his own promotional company. He should stick to that instead of fighting.

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Wow, I knew he didn't have much but Otis Griffin, even with how he's been struggling I thought he'd stop Otis.

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same here, i said it on another thread that even if Lacy is 1/3 the fighter he once was he should KO Griffin within 6 rnds, and then he barely goes on to beat him? i think Lacy can be competitive in little meaningless fights like this one, but he'll never be a serious competitor when it comes to world titles anymore, i say let him make some money as long as he doesn't get hurt, but was reported he had both eyes badly swollen, and if that's the case against Griffin i think he should retire

Didn't Jesse Brinkley knock out Otis Griffin with ease last year?

I guess Brinkley vs Lacy could be a possibility with a shot at Joey Spina for the winner.

Lacy is truly done it seems, sad as I always admired his heart and courage.

This may bode well for the Froch fight though, I'm hoping Carl puts a beating on Jermain Taylor and makes himself a big name stateside. If Lacy truly is a shell and took Taylor 12 rounds this has to be good for Froch.

Most of us would agree that what Calzaghe did could leave any fighter questioning himself, but does anyone think it might be more than that? What I mean is, brain damage. Maybe not to an extreme like the GMan, but still enough to affect his performance as a fighter?

The reason I mention this, is because of seeing more than a few fights where the fighter either wasn't the same after, or died. I personally think it's possible Jeff had one of them nights where his head got rattled a little more than it should of been allowed to and it is showing.

Hey Guys you need to take a few things into consideration. Oscars the next great was a low standard competition but it was guys who had under 10 pro fights, so it was never going to be world class fighters. Otis was a professional NFL footballer who had 9 am fights before making his pro debut on the show, He learned the game as he went along, he won the show and then did pretty well in his career to go on to win the NABO title.

He then took on Danny Green on at 4 days notice flying 23 hours out to Austrailia (Crazy) and if you actually watch the fight Otis got hit on the back of the head, he went down and complained tot he ref, in a neutral area it would not have been a knock down, then Danny piled on him and bundled him over twice more and was subject to the 3 knock down rule. I am not saying he would have won but he was not knocked out.

Jesse Brinkley he boiled himself down to 165lbs a weight that if you look at his picture he is a big boy, he actually walked into the ring at 166lbs as he had made himself ill. He struggled through and was eventually stopped in the 11th round after not being knocked down but the ref obviously sensed something was wrong, he was then rushed to hospital on the verge of a heart attack as his pottasium and sodium levels were dangerously low.

Then came the crazy fight in Germany with a guy by the time they stepped in the ring was over 30lbs heavier than him he boxed and moved but the guy caught up with him in the 3rd and he was knocked down and stopped.

The he came to me, I see ability in him and think with the right guidence can do well. We took the lacy fight at short notice but knew Lacy was not the Lacy of old. It was in Lacy's home town and on a Lacy promotions so we knew we would have to win big. Otis worked really hard, was in great shape obviously there is still a lot of work to do with the kid but he put on a great show. Lacy is not the fighter he once was but he is still a good fighter, to say he is a joke etc is crazy, he is a tough kid and hits hard and has a big heart. You look at his loses Joe Calzaghe who has taken apart many great fighters, and Jermain Taylor more recently who holds wins of BHop which is not something many can brag about.

Lacy came in fit and put up a good fight but Otis was better and hit Lacy with some big shots, and bullied the smaller guy. The florida commission agrred that Griffin should have won the fight, nevertheless it is what is and he got robbed. To say he is a bum is as big a joke as when I took over the training of Yusaf Mack last january and to be honest most of the guys on here were quick to slate Barron for promoting his guy and how Yusaf was a bum and didn't train and all that stuff, now he is in line for one of the major belts and holding wins over some decent guys the opinions have changed.

I turned Yusaf around and I will be turning Otis around, he is back in camp 26th April and in the next year you will see him up there and beating the best mark my words.

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Hey Guys you need to take a few things into consideration. Oscars the next great was a low standard competition but it was guys who had under 10 pro fights, so it was never going to be world class fighters. Otis was a professional NFL footballer who had 9 am fights before making his pro debut on the show, He learned the game as he went along, he won the show and then did pretty well in his career to go on to win the NABO title.

He then took on Danny Green on at 4 days notice flying 23 hours out to Austrailia (Crazy) and if you actually watch the fight Otis got hit on the back of the head, he went down and complained tot he ref, in a neutral area it would not have been a knock down, then Danny piled on him and bundled him over twice more and was subject to the 3 knock down rule. I am not saying he would have won but he was not knocked out.

Jesse Brinkley he boiled himself down to 165lbs a weight that if you look at his picture he is a big boy, he actually walked into the ring at 166lbs as he had made himself ill. He struggled through and was eventually stopped in the 11th round after not being knocked down but the ref obviously sensed something was wrong, he was then rushed to hospital on the verge of a heart attack as his pottasium and sodium levels were dangerously low.

Then came the crazy fight in Germany with a guy by the time they stepped in the ring was over 30lbs heavier than him he boxed and moved but the guy caught up with him in the 3rd and he was knocked down and stopped.

The he came to me, I see ability in him and think with the right guidence can do well. We took the lacy fight at short notice but knew Lacy was not the Lacy of old. It was in Lacy's home town and on a Lacy promotions so we knew we would have to win big. Otis worked really hard, was in great shape obviously there is still a lot of work to do with the kid but he put on a great show. Lacy is not the fighter he once was but he is still a good fighter, to say he is a joke etc is crazy, he is a tough kid and hits hard and has a big heart. You look at his loses Joe Calzaghe who has taken apart many great fighters, and Jermain Taylor more recently who holds wins of BHop which is not something many can brag about.

Lacy came in fit and put up a good fight but Otis was better and hit Lacy with some big shots, and bullied the smaller guy. The florida commission agrred that Griffin should have won the fight, nevertheless it is what is and he got robbed. To say he is a bum is as big a joke as when I took over the training of Yusaf Mack last january and to be honest most of the guys on here were quick to slate Barron for promoting his guy and how Yusaf was a bum and didn't train and all that stuff, now he is in line for one of the major belts and holding wins over some decent guys the opinions have changed.

I turned Yusaf around and I will be turning Otis around, he is back in camp 26th April and in the next year you will see him up there and beating the best mark my words.

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Griffin is garbage and will never be world class

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Hey Guys you need to take a few things into consideration. Oscars the next great was a low standard competition but it was guys who had under 10 pro fights, so it was never going to be world class fighters. Otis was a professional NFL footballer who had 9 am fights before making his pro debut on the show, He learned the game as he went along, he won the show and then did pretty well in his career to go on to win the NABO title.

He then took on Danny Green on at 4 days notice flying 23 hours out to Austrailia (Crazy) and if you actually watch the fight Otis got hit on the back of the head, he went down and complained tot he ref, in a neutral area it would not have been a knock down, then Danny piled on him and bundled him over twice more and was subject to the 3 knock down rule. I am not saying he would have won but he was not knocked out.

Jesse Brinkley he boiled himself down to 165lbs a weight that if you look at his picture he is a big boy, he actually walked into the ring at 166lbs as he had made himself ill. He struggled through and was eventually stopped in the 11th round after not being knocked down but the ref obviously sensed something was wrong, he was then rushed to hospital on the verge of a heart attack as his pottasium and sodium levels were dangerously low.

Then came the crazy fight in Germany with a guy by the time they stepped in the ring was over 30lbs heavier than him he boxed and moved but the guy caught up with him in the 3rd and he was knocked down and stopped.

The he came to me, I see ability in him and think with the right guidence can do well. We took the lacy fight at short notice but knew Lacy was not the Lacy of old. It was in Lacy's home town and on a Lacy promotions so we knew we would have to win big. Otis worked really hard, was in great shape obviously there is still a lot of work to do with the kid but he put on a great show. Lacy is not the fighter he once was but he is still a good fighter, to say he is a joke etc is crazy, he is a tough kid and hits hard and has a big heart. You look at his loses Joe Calzaghe who has taken apart many great fighters, and Jermain Taylor more recently who holds wins of BHop which is not something many can brag about.

Lacy came in fit and put up a good fight but Otis was better and hit Lacy with some big shots, and bullied the smaller guy. The florida commission agrred that Griffin should have won the fight, nevertheless it is what is and he got robbed. To say he is a bum is as big a joke as when I took over the training of Yusaf Mack last january and to be honest most of the guys on here were quick to slate Barron for promoting his guy and how Yusaf was a bum and didn't train and all that stuff, now he is in line for one of the major belts and holding wins over some decent guys the opinions have changed.

I turned Yusaf around and I will be turning Otis around, he is back in camp 26th April and in the next year you will see him up there and beating the best mark my words.

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Thanks for the insight. Good luck with both fighters in the future.

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Hey Guys you need to take a few things into consideration. Oscars the next great was a low standard competition but it was guys who had under 10 pro fights, so it was never going to be world class fighters. Otis was a professional NFL footballer who had 9 am fights before making his pro debut on the show, He learned the game as he went along, he won the show and then did pretty well in his career to go on to win the NABO title.

He then took on Danny Green on at 4 days notice flying 23 hours out to Austrailia (Crazy) and if you actually watch the fight Otis got hit on the back of the head, he went down and complained tot he ref, in a neutral area it would not have been a knock down, then Danny piled on him and bundled him over twice more and was subject to the 3 knock down rule. I am not saying he would have won but he was not knocked out.

Jesse Brinkley he boiled himself down to 165lbs a weight that if you look at his picture he is a big boy, he actually walked into the ring at 166lbs as he had made himself ill. He struggled through and was eventually stopped in the 11th round after not being knocked down but the ref obviously sensed something was wrong, he was then rushed to hospital on the verge of a heart attack as his pottasium and sodium levels were dangerously low.

Then came the crazy fight in Germany with a guy by the time they stepped in the ring was over 30lbs heavier than him he boxed and moved but the guy caught up with him in the 3rd and he was knocked down and stopped.

The he came to me, I see ability in him and think with the right guidence can do well. We took the lacy fight at short notice but knew Lacy was not the Lacy of old. It was in Lacy's home town and on a Lacy promotions so we knew we would have to win big. Otis worked really hard, was in great shape obviously there is still a lot of work to do with the kid but he put on a great show. Lacy is not the fighter he once was but he is still a good fighter, to say he is a joke etc is crazy, he is a tough kid and hits hard and has a big heart. You look at his loses Joe Calzaghe who has taken apart many great fighters, and Jermain Taylor more recently who holds wins of BHop which is not something many can brag about.

Lacy came in fit and put up a good fight but Otis was better and hit Lacy with some big shots, and bullied the smaller guy. The florida commission agrred that Griffin should have won the fight, nevertheless it is what is and he got robbed. To say he is a bum is as big a joke as when I took over the training of Yusaf Mack last january and to be honest most of the guys on here were quick to slate Barron for promoting his guy and how Yusaf was a bum and didn't train and all that stuff, now he is in line for one of the major belts and holding wins over some decent guys the opinions have changed.

I turned Yusaf around and I will be turning Otis around, he is back in camp 26th April and in the next year you will see him up there and beating the best mark my words.

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Griffin is garbage and will never be world class

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You underestimate me haha, you guys said the same about Yusaf Mack

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Hey Guys you need to take a few things into consideration. Oscars the next great was a low standard competition but it was guys who had under 10 pro fights, so it was never going to be world class fighters. Otis was a professional NFL footballer who had 9 am fights before making his pro debut on the show, He learned the game as he went along, he won the show and then did pretty well in his career to go on to win the NABO title.

He then took on Danny Green on at 4 days notice flying 23 hours out to Austrailia (Crazy) and if you actually watch the fight Otis got hit on the back of the head, he went down and complained tot he ref, in a neutral area it would not have been a knock down, then Danny piled on him and bundled him over twice more and was subject to the 3 knock down rule. I am not saying he would have won but he was not knocked out.

Jesse Brinkley he boiled himself down to 165lbs a weight that if you look at his picture he is a big boy, he actually walked into the ring at 166lbs as he had made himself ill. He struggled through and was eventually stopped in the 11th round after not being knocked down but the ref obviously sensed something was wrong, he was then rushed to hospital on the verge of a heart attack as his pottasium and sodium levels were dangerously low.

Then came the crazy fight in Germany with a guy by the time they stepped in the ring was over 30lbs heavier than him he boxed and moved but the guy caught up with him in the 3rd and he was knocked down and stopped.

The he came to me, I see ability in him and think with the right guidence can do well. We took the lacy fight at short notice but knew Lacy was not the Lacy of old. It was in Lacy's home town and on a Lacy promotions so we knew we would have to win big. Otis worked really hard, was in great shape obviously there is still a lot of work to do with the kid but he put on a great show. Lacy is not the fighter he once was but he is still a good fighter, to say he is a joke etc is crazy, he is a tough kid and hits hard and has a big heart. You look at his loses Joe Calzaghe who has taken apart many great fighters, and Jermain Taylor more recently who holds wins of BHop which is not something many can brag about.

Lacy came in fit and put up a good fight but Otis was better and hit Lacy with some big shots, and bullied the smaller guy. The florida commission agrred that Griffin should have won the fight, nevertheless it is what is and he got robbed. To say he is a bum is as big a joke as when I took over the training of Yusaf Mack last january and to be honest most of the guys on here were quick to slate Barron for promoting his guy and how Yusaf was a bum and didn't train and all that stuff, now he is in line for one of the major belts and holding wins over some decent guys the opinions have changed.

I turned Yusaf around and I will be turning Otis around, he is back in camp 26th April and in the next year you will see him up there and beating the best mark my words.

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Griffin is garbage and will never be world class

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You underestimate me haha, you guys said the same about Yusaf Mack

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i never said jack about yusaf mack and i know for a fact that Griffin is crap (been watchin too much Floyd Sr. lol)