Cris Arreola he puts the HEAVY in heavyweight

255 is a pound heavier than when he fought Travis Walker and told HBO "I need to be in better shape for my next fight"....271 isn't skinny for McCline either but he's always been bulky and he has the frame to pull it off without looking like James Toney.

I am liking McCline's chances a little better having seen the results of the weigh in.

This is bad for Arreola, maybe not for the outcome of the fight but publicity bad. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY wants the heavyweight champion of the world to be some lard ass, it just isn't good for business.


CRIS, PUT THE FORK DOWN AND STEP AWAY FROM THE FOOD!

They should each be coming in 25 lbs lighter. Mccline doesnt look good either. These guys are the polar opposite of David Haye. Maybe they need a little more vanity?

Wladimir 6'6 and Vitali 6'8 always come into a fight under 250 pounds....how the FUCK does Arreola do it? What does his training camp consist of? McCline has always looked like that, he's only fought 2 times under 260 pounds....at least he usually comes to fight in good cardio shape, breathing through all his punches etc.

David Haye, Sultan Ibragimov, Ruslan Chagaev, and Evander Holyfield are the only heavyweights (outside the Klitschko's) that I can think of who are seemingly in consistent shape when they fight....that is hurting the division as much as anything else is.

I've been out of shape for a while but I wouldn't need any time to look better than those 2 PRO ATHLETES!!! That is just fucking sad....it shows a complete lack of respect for the sport.

If Arreola weighed in at 225 or maybe 230 he would be an absolute beast, his hands would be faster, he'd be able to throw more punches, he'd be quicker....but right now he looks like someone just grabbed him away from the fucking Golden Corral

If one the them lands a solid breast shot the other may start lactating.


Mccline knows he is nothing but a gate keeper and I think Arreola knows he is not world class either.


Neither has the mindset of a champion, so they come into fights looking like this.

Very true about the mindset...although I think McCline could give Arreola serious problems, that is of course if McCline has the fire in him to really test Arreola.

If Cris waits then McCline will wait with him, if Cris jumps on Jameel then we may see an upset.

I am not sold on Cris' defense or offense...he can punch pretty good but sooner or later he's going to have to be able to box and open up a tight defense on his opponent. McCline is a tough fighter, he was unlucky vs Valuev (whom I thought he could beat), he fought very tight vs Wladimir although I don't blame him, and he did well vs Sam Peter but he got tired trying to KO Sam instead of going for the decision...and two judges were WAAAAY off on their scorring 110-115 and 111-115...McCline did score 3 knockdowns in 2 rounds meaning he won at least 2 rounds and by more than just 1 point.

I am really hoping for McCline to pull off the upset

This might not be a popular opinion, but McCline when focused and on his game is far better than most heavyweight out there. He had all the tools to be a champion, but his sparring partner mentality has always been his downfall. I honestly ont even want Arreola to be the American hopeful because its pretty embarrasing imo, that this is the best we got. At least let it be a guy who does his work in the gym and comes to fight in shape.

Maybe if Chris gets iced he will realize he needs to get off his fat ass and lose some weight...Nothing like humility to motivate.

Arreola should weigh 235-240. He is taller and naturally bigger than Povetkin who weighs 230. At a certain point, the extra weight must slow him down. It isn't alarming because he has fought above 250 before and wasn't gassed. Maybe tonight McCline will take him the distance and we'll see whether the extra weight hurts Arreola.

You shouldn't single out Arreola. McCline weighed 271! That is ridiculous even if you are 6'6. And Sam Peter weighed 265 for his fight against Eddie Chambers - Sam Peter is 6'2!!! Eddie Chambers himself weighed 225 and is 6'1!

Lyle, if you have such intense hate for Arreola, how about a sig bet?

I seriously hope Mccline knocks the crap out of Arreola. He is not even a champion yet and he already has Bowe habits. But at least Bowe won the heavyweight championship before he let himself go. I think Chris Arreolla's 15 minutes are almost up because it seems the more money he makes the bigger his stomach is getting and it is a matter of time before it catches up to him.

I was really dissapointed to hear that Arreola weighed in at 255 last night. I thought for sure he was gong to be taking this fight seriously and he was going to shed some serious pounds. I guess not very very sad to see this.

I gotta go with my Riverside homie.

Arreola by brutal KO.

Simultaneous KO anyone ??McCline used to draw oohs and awes with size but his chest over lapped his stomach then.Now its reversed.

Arreola....:vd: I seriously want to believe he'll do well in progression but am realizing more so in every fight that he just dont give a f!!!k.He's all emotion,raw strength and frontal power living fight by fight and will sink or swim by KO.Exciting yes but will burn fast.Just not committed to a long term career.

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Maybe if Chris gets iced he will realize he needs to get off his fat ass and lose some weight...Nothing like humility to motivate.

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Tell that to Sam Peter, David Tua, James Toney, Shannon Briggs and James Kirkland :rolleyes:


Rantacrat, if you look at my second post, I give props to the hand full of heavyweight fighters who care enough about their careers to come to a fight in shape...I don't just dog on Arreola and the only reason I get on him is because he DOES have potential and he COULD be a champion but he's never in shape and when was the last time we had a great or even a good heavyweight champion who didn't get in good shape before his bouts??? Butterbean never won a heavyweight title...David Tua wasn't all that good as a title holder...even when Mike Tyson didn't train for a fight he at least looked like he was in shape, he didn't look like he just finished a pie eating contest.

Old George Foreman is I guess the only dude you could point out who didn't look like he was in great shape but he was 45 years old!!!! And hell he's still in better shape than most of the heavyweights out there considering his age....Holyfield is around 45 now and he's in GREAT shape, he always has been.

It's just disrespectful to have a fight where fans pay their money to see 2 PRO fighters fight hard for 10-12 rounds and they show up looking like the God Damn Stay Puft Marshmellow Man

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Arreola should weigh 235-240. He is taller and naturally bigger than Povetkin who weighs 230. At a certain point, the extra weight must slow him down. It isn't alarming because he has fought above 250 before and wasn't gassed. Maybe tonight McCline will take him the distance and we'll see whether the extra weight hurts Arreola.

You shouldn't single out Arreola. McCline weighed 271! That is ridiculous even if you are 6'6. And Sam Peter weighed 265 for his fight against Eddie Chambers - Sam Peter is 6'2!!! Eddie Chambers himself weighed 225 and is 6'1!

Lyle, if you have such intense hate for Arreola, how about a sig bet?

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The difference is Arreola is an up and comer. McCline is nearly 40 and on the way down. Plus McCline has fought around 270 his entre career. Hes just a very large man.

I don't like Arreola's frame of mind if he said "I need to be in better shape for my next fight"

That pretty much means he didn't give it his all in training camp because in his mind he thinks he is gonna walk through Jameel McCline. He is already looking ahead to his next fight and overlooking McCline. McCline may only be a gate keeper but he is not someone you overlook

This will be Arreolas toughest fight to date, I wouldn't be surprised if McCline wins because he is the better boxer and could win if he jabs. I got a feeling this will be another slugfest early, but may turn to a holdfest looking at the condition of both these guys. This is a pickem for me.

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Originally Posted by Lyle

Wladimir 6'6 and Vitali 6'8 always come into a fight under 250 pounds....how the FUCK does Arreola do it? What does his training camp consist of? McCline has always looked like that, he's only fought 2 times under 260 pounds....at least he usually comes to fight in good cardio shape, breathing through all his punches etc.

David Haye, Sultan Ibragimov, Ruslan Chagaev, and Evander Holyfield are the only heavyweights (outside the Klitschko's) that I can think of who are seemingly in consistent shape when they fight....that is hurting the division as much as anything else is.

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Agreed on all accounts....

In all fairness it is hard to compare anyone to Wlad as far as build etc...The man steps in at 6'6" at about 245 chisled pounds all the time....Other then the first Brewster fight he is always ion great cardio as well....The man is not natural...

Well if you look at the punches he threw and the power he put on them vs Brewster then I think it's fair to say that Wlad was in fine shape but Brewster took one hell of a beating. Speaking of which, Lamon would have been perfect to beat Arreola....tough, decent boxer, good power, great chin. He needs to stay active IF he's healthy

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Originally Posted by Lyle

255 is a pound heavier than when he fought Travis Walker and told HBO "I need to be in better shape for my next fight"....271 isn't skinny for McCline either but he's always been bulky and he has the frame to pull it off without looking like James Toney.

I am liking McCline's chances a little better having seen the results of the weigh in.

This is bad for Arreola, maybe not for the outcome of the fight but publicity bad. Nobody, and I mean NOBODY wants the heavyweight champion of the world to be some lard ass, it just isn't good for business.


CRIS, PUT THE FORK DOWN AND STEP AWAY FROM THE FOOD!

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I hate to go negative but when I heard Lampley selling this guy after the Walker fight it was sad.. Apparently all one must to do be the next great American heavyweight is knock someone out. Doesn't matter who it is or how sloppy it's done, just don't go the distance, and we'll put you in commercials :)

I liked the way Walker fought...I checked him out on boxrec though and he too is guilty of coming in heavy at times, but not vs Arreola. Walker attacked Cris and caught him with a big bomb, I was hoping he'd follow up but he missed his window.

That fight made me really not appreciate Cris Arreola

and honestly although he's winning the fight, he's doing nothing to help prove that he deserves to be at the top, he's getting whacked with too many shots

Wlad would spark him clean out going on what I saw tonight. The guy needs to think a little more about getting into shape. McCline isn't the bees knees and was breathing heavy after two...

It was like watching two beached whales going at it! Bloody hard work on the eyes! :puke:

C'mon guys... Arreola's not THAT bad. He's just fat.

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If Arreola was that bothered by McCline's hooks then what the hell is going to happen when Wlad hooks off the jab vs him OR when somebody like Sam Peter (who is still a good puncher) pops him with a hard left hook?

I enjoyed the fight I am looking forward to seeing this one again ;D I don't really like watching the heavy weights but last night these guys were dropping bombs and you could hear the pounding ;D Good stuff.