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What do you think Oscar will do? (Breaking News - Oscar retires!!!)
The Associated Press: De La Hoya to announce his boxing future Tuesday
Well obviously he's something building up? :-\
I can't see why he would build an announcement for retirement? Although people that have a stature might very well need it.
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Ray Leonard did something similar didn't he? Just to say he was retiring
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I hope he fights JCCjr at his comfortable fighting weight.
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I hope he fights JCCjr at his comfortable fighting weight.
i hope its just a formal retirement announcement and yes Leonard did it, and at that time threw it right into Hagler's face
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I wishi he would fight Mosely again or Wright.
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I wishi he would fight Mosely again or Wright.
the robbery in the 2nd fight kinda took away from what could have been a great trilogy, 3rd fight being a toss up, Wright well I'd say it all depends on how he performs, if he doesn't look that good well that's the only way i'd see that fight happening, and not even seeing how it wouldn't really mean much, DLH/Wright should have happened right when DLH really beat Mosley in the 2nd fight, should have been DLH/Wright for the undisputed 154 lb title
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I bet he's going to announce his next fight will be at 122 against Molitor.
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I thought he'd challenge Calzaghe!!!
Of course ODH has done a great bunch of stuff for boxing, and I wish the guy would stick around a little longer and fight JC Jr. or Mosley or even Vernon Forrest (who I always wanted to see him fight) OR Ricky Hatton.
But with him doing this fighting once every blue moon I reckon it's all for the best that he call it a day and focus on promoting. If they ever made a boxing league, I figure Oscar would be in the running for Commissioner or something high up.
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I bet he's going to announce his next fight will be at 122 against Molitor.
Lol!
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Id probably favor him to beat jcc jr. as long as his mind is still in it and his confidence is still intact. I really dont mind if he fights him. I also dont mind if he chooses to retire. Or maybe hes waiting for the Wright-Williams fight to happen before making a decision. You just never know with Oscar. Im thinking retirement though.
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Great promoter with the boxing world in his hands,many deals in the works.But faded and tattered fighter at this stage I believe.I hope he retires for good and not run the risk of loosing to guys he would have dusted off just a years ago.
Last night what was telling that when he was asked about his boxing future was his response..."Umm, ask my wife". I think that says it all and he will announce his retirement.
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I've always liked Oscar. If he has the desire to fight and can give us 12 good rounds I'd welcome any meaningful opponent, but if he all we are going to get is a shadow of a once awesome fighter then I hope he hangs them up.
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killersheep
I bet he's going to announce his next fight will be at 122 against Molitor.
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He should have a farewell fight. Against Chavez Jr. or someone like Carlos Baldomir. A KO win is unlikely against Baldomir but if he does it well that's good for him. Atleast he can justify the headlines he personally fabricated , "GOLDEN BOY SHINES AGAIN, KNOCKS OUT IRON CHINNED FORMER CHAMP OPPONENT WHO TOOK P4P CHAMP MAYWEATHER TO THE DISTANCE."
Fukk that. I hope he fights a decent opponent and wins. He deserves it somehow.
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I would bet my collection of rusty pennies that he'll fight JCC jr and possibly another one after that, he sees Moseley and Hopkin doing well way past their prime and I doubt he would accept to be anywhere lesser than them in term of time accomplishment. But well, first JCC for sure and let's see what's next but I am certain he does another fight and almost certain he'll fight at least another time after that.
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What do you think Oscar de la hoya do?
I think he should have one more fight because i think every fighter should retire on a win. I think he just messed up on the weight when he fought pacquiao. In my opinion he should have a fight at middleweight against Julio ceasor chavez jr because it would be a good fight and a definate win.
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it's not just a case of messing the weight up and moving on though :-\
Physically it won't have done him any favours and mentally it definetly won't have
I think it may have ruined him now :(
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Re: What do you think Oscar de la hoya do?
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I think he should have one more fight because i think every fighter should retire on a win. I think he just messed up on the weight when he fought pacquiao. In my opinion he should have a fight at middleweight against Julio ceasor chavez jr because it would be a good fight and a definate win.
The retiring on a win excuse being used by Ali against Berbick, hopefully de la Hoya is not so silly. In a honest fight, there is no such thing as a definite win, even for Oscar against Lil Chavez.....
It is rightly his choice, and I suspect he probably still has enough to compete at a fair level even in his mid 30s, but I personally would like to see de la Hoya go in other directions in the sport and carry on with his promoting, where he can make the Dollars without necessarily taking the punches.
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I think he should smash Hatton and than retire
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mattboxingfan
I think he should have one more fight because i think every fighter should retire on a win. I think he just messed up on the weight when he fought pacquiao. In my opinion he should have a fight at middleweight against Julio ceasor chavez jr because it would be a good fight and a definate win.
Yeah. Give JCC Jr a chance to avenge his dad.
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Re: What do you think Oscar de la hoya do?
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Violent Demise
I think he should smash Hatton and than retire
Hatton would be doing the smashing. It wouldn't even be close it would be like Hatton fighting Jose Luis Castillo again...difference is it might end quicker.
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"The L.A. Earthquake"
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Violent Demise
I think he should smash Hatton and than retire
Hatton would be doing the smashing. It wouldn't even be close it would be like Hatton fighting Jose Luis Castillo again...difference is it might end quicker.
:vd: Must be why hatton coward out when he had his chance to fight Oscar.
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Anyway, I think De La Hoya should move up to 154 and fight JCC Jr. that would be a fun one to watch just because of the names and because De La Hoya would be able to fight and not starve himself to death.
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Violent Demise
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"The L.A. Earthquake"
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Violent Demise
I think he should smash Hatton and than retire
Hatton would be doing the smashing. It wouldn't even be close it would be like Hatton fighting Jose Luis Castillo again...difference is it might end quicker.
:vd: Must be why hatton coward out when he had his chance to fight Oscar.
He didn't coward out he just wanted to chill some more. If De La Hoya beat Pacquiao we would be talking about the upcoming Hatton-De La Hoya fight.
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"The L.A. Earthquake"
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Violent Demise
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"The L.A. Earthquake"
Hatton would be doing the smashing. It wouldn't even be close it would be like Hatton fighting Jose Luis Castillo again...difference is it might end quicker.
:vd: Must be why hatton coward out when he had his chance to fight Oscar.
He didn't coward out he just wanted to chill some more. If De La Hoya beat Pacquiao we would be talking about the upcoming Hatton-De La Hoya fight.
He turned it down cuz he said Oscar was to big. Now after Oscar-Pac all of a sudden Hatton says he would of beat him too. LOL. Sure Hatton. Sure
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"The L.A. Earthquake"
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Violent Demise
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"The L.A. Earthquake"
Hatton would be doing the smashing. It wouldn't even be close it would be like Hatton fighting Jose Luis Castillo again...difference is it might end quicker.
:vd: Must be why hatton coward out when he had his chance to fight Oscar.
He didn't coward out he just wanted to chill some more. If De La Hoya beat Pacquiao we would be talking about the upcoming Hatton-De La Hoya fight.
"Chill"? You mean the nights he was crying in bed after the PBF lost? Hatton said that in Pac-Hat 24/7.
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"The L.A. Earthquake"
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Violent Demise
:vd: Must be why hatton coward out when he had his chance to fight Oscar.
He didn't coward out he just wanted to chill some more. If De La Hoya beat Pacquiao we would be talking about the upcoming Hatton-De La Hoya fight.
He turned it down cuz he said Oscar was to big. Now after Oscar-Pac all of a sudden Hatton says he would of beat him too. LOL. Sure Hatton. Sure
LOL So you really think De La Hoya, that statue that Pacquiao fought would beat Hatton? LOL Ok that is your opinion, but I wish they would fight It would be the first fight in a long time where I really wouldn't be all that nervous.
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imo hatton would stop odlh inside 4 rounds odlh is finished and should retitre
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imo hatton would stop odlh inside 4 rounds odlh is finished and should retitre
Oscar is not done, it's just that Pacquiao is that damn good.
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If ODLH was as weight drained as he was against Pacman then Hatton would beat him handily... 140lbs Hatton would probably overhelm him because it's clear that he is too old to do the weight anymore... anything other than that and I dunno... though I fear Oscar is shot now anyways.
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"The L.A. Earthquake"
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Violent Demise
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"The L.A. Earthquake"
He didn't coward out he just wanted to chill some more. If De La Hoya beat Pacquiao we would be talking about the upcoming Hatton-De La Hoya fight.
He turned it down cuz he said Oscar was to big. Now after Oscar-Pac all of a sudden Hatton says he would of beat him too. LOL. Sure Hatton. Sure
LOL So you really think De La Hoya, that statue that Pacquiao fought would beat Hatton? LOL Ok that is your opinion, but I wish they would fight It would be the first fight in a long time where I really wouldn't be all that nervous.
Pac had the perfect game plan for Oscar. I seriously doubt Hatton can dart in an out the way Pac did. He has nowhere near the speed Pac has
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Violent Demise
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"The L.A. Earthquake"
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Violent Demise
He turned it down cuz he said Oscar was to big. Now after Oscar-Pac all of a sudden Hatton says he would of beat him too. LOL. Sure Hatton. Sure
LOL So you really think De La Hoya, that statue that Pacquiao fought would beat Hatton? LOL Ok that is your opinion, but I wish they would fight It would be the first fight in a long time where I really wouldn't be all that nervous.
Pac had the perfect game plan for Oscar. I seriously doubt Hatton can dart in an out the way Pac did. He has nowhere near the speed Pac has
sorry but Hatton would beat Oscar at 147 just as bad or worse than Pac did, DLH would still be weight drained, and i doubt he's found the fountain of youth to turn back the clock
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DLH is only 35. He's part time fighter. He only fought 45 times from 1992 to 2008. He didn't go through many wars. I don't think he's that shot like most people make him. I think his nutritionist screwed him up.
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Definetly, he still looked good against Floyd and what's his name who won the contender.
I'm just worried that it could have affected him long term, and whilst 35 isn't ancient, especially at the higher weights Oscar is a smaller fighter who has spent a lot of his career fighting below what is not his natural weight.
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He's done. Anyone who is in the top ten of their division could probably give him a good run for his money & I'd wager the top 3 or 4 guys in the divisions from 140 to 160 would batter him badly. He was done when in the Mayweather fight he was getting outdone by a guy who must have weighed in about 10-15lbs lighter than him (regardless of how good PBF is). He also looked shot against Forbes, who as much as I like him, is a former 130 champ fighting about 15lbs above his fighting weight & marking him up. Just give it up, its over.
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What do I think Oscar WILL do? Or SHOULD do? The question is unclear.
What WILL he do? He'll probably hang around, make some more noise about wanting to cement his legacy, and get his computer to spit out another "safe" opponent, one against which he'll have better luck than against Pacquiao.
What SHOULD he do? Retire and concentrate on promoting boxing.
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TitoFan
What do I think Oscar WILL do? Or SHOULD do? The question is unclear.
What WILL he do? He'll probably hang around, make some more noise about wanting to cement his legacy, and get his computer to spit out another "safe" opponent, one against which he'll have better luck than against Pacquiao.
What SHOULD he do? Retire and concentrate on promoting boxing.
actually i'll be pretty surprised if he says he's gonna fight on come Tuesday, he's been basically leading up to it
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TitoFan
What do I think Oscar WILL do? Or SHOULD do? The question is unclear.
What WILL he do? He'll probably hang around, make some more noise about wanting to cement his legacy, and get his computer to spit out another "safe" opponent, one against which he'll have better luck than against Pacquiao.
What SHOULD he do? Retire and concentrate on promoting boxing.
actually i'll be pretty surprised if he says he's gonna fight on come Tuesday, he's been basically leading up to it
He needs to start using his name and fame to promote the sport into the mainstream, and start nudging the old slimebags like Arum and King off into retirement. I'd like Oscar better as a promoter and ambassador of boxing than I did when he was boxing himself.
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TitoFan
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ElTerribleMorales
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TitoFan
What do I think Oscar WILL do? Or SHOULD do? The question is unclear.
What WILL he do? He'll probably hang around, make some more noise about wanting to cement his legacy, and get his computer to spit out another "safe" opponent, one against which he'll have better luck than against Pacquiao.
What SHOULD he do? Retire and concentrate on promoting boxing.
actually i'll be pretty surprised if he says he's gonna fight on come Tuesday, he's been basically leading up to it
He needs to start using his name and fame to promote the sport into the mainstream, and start nudging the old slimebags like Arum and King off into retirement. I'd like Oscar better as a promoter and ambassador of boxing than I did when he was boxing himself.
Agreed. One of the good things about the ODLH-PBF & PBF-Hatton fights was that both boxers were promoted by boxers, and it was satisfying knowing that neither Arum or King were getting their dirty little hands on any of that cash.
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After the Pacquiao fight ODLH walked over to Freddie Roach and said and I quote:
"I just don't have it any more."
I say he'll announce he's retiring from boxing.