This will be entertaining,exciting,blockbuster.Cant wait for this one to happen....Who you think will win?KO.TKO ,SPLIT D,UD,.....What??? Of course not the DRAW,I hate draws.
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This will be entertaining,exciting,blockbuster.Cant wait for this one to happen....Who you think will win?KO.TKO ,SPLIT D,UD,.....What??? Of course not the DRAW,I hate draws.
Donaire would win easily. He's bigger, stronger, a lot smarter, and above all...
HE'S GOT MORE EXPERIENCE FIGHTING ABOVE 115. 70% of his KO wins in his record were from 115+.
IMO Montiel stops Donaire between the 6th and the 8thQuote:
Originally Posted by happytrip
Both fighters are very capable of winning....i say either way by split decision.
I think Montiel should collide with Darchinyan instead of Vics collision with King-kong...but that wont happen now.I like Fernando ;D.Donaire has clearly out grown 112,etc love his sharp shooting & range.I think Montiel takes him deep,especially underneath in a war.
Donaire looked great in attack mode against Martinez. But there is no way he fights Montiel that way. If he does he gets knocked out. Either way he loses.
Again,that's coming from VD. How many has he predicted correctly when there is a filipino fighter involved?:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I think N-O-N-E none is the correct answer... :lolhaha:Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceleeAgain,that's coming from VD. How many has he predicted correctly when there is a filipino fighter involved?:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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Got news that this fight is already a done deal.
GREAT!! (if it's true) Can't wait for Donaire to land those sharp accurate punches on Montiel...Quote:
Originally Posted by happytrip
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me too...truth is i want to see how good Montiel is.That is if he survives Nonito's power punches.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerGREAT!! (if it's true) Can't wait for Donaire to land those sharp accurate punches on Montiel...Quote:
Originally Posted by happytrip
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I dont think anyone can beat nonito at his division. His going to remain champ for a long time. He should unify and crush Montiel, Z Gorres should of but he came up short. Nonito will get the job done. Vic is force to go up in weight and away. He wants no part of Nonito.
think nonito takes montiel to school. gorres wasn't having a hard time finding him and nonito is a better boxer than z with more power. gorres actually got cocky in that fight with montiel and would have had an easy win until he got caught.
Id rather not take MONTIEL lightly,he is a master of comebacks.How many times he came back from knockdowns?That is why this fight is a must see...but im confident NONITO will prevail.
One problem I see in this Donaire-Montiel match-up is, WBO won't sanctioned this fight as a WBO bantam title fight... Montiel is the interim WBO bantam champ while Donaire the IBF/IBO flyweight champ, different organization and different weight division...Quote:
Originally Posted by happytripme too...truth is i want to see how good Montiel is.That is if he survives Nonito's power punches.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerGREAT!! (if it's true) Can't wait for Donaire to land those sharp accurate punches on Montiel...Quote:
Originally Posted by happytrip
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There's more chance for Donaire to challenge the IBF bantam champ and that will be against.... TADA.... winner of Darchinyan/Agbeko fight...;)
Bob Arum's magic will thresh out everything.Anyway ,i prefer a fight with MONTIEL for Nonito.The rest will come next.Dont get me wrong...this is just a wish from me.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerOne problem I see in this Donaire-Montiel match-up is, WBO won't sanctioned this fight as a WBO bantam title fight... Montiel is the interim WBO bantam champ while Donaire the IBF/IBO flyweight champ, different organization and different weight division...Quote:
Originally Posted by happytripme too...truth is i want to see how good Montiel is.That is if he survives Nonito's power punches.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
There's more chance for Donaire to challenge the IBF bantam champ and that will be against.... TADA.... winner of Darchinyan/Agbeko fight...;)
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Originally Posted by bruceleeAgain,that's coming from VD. How many has he predicted correctly when there is a filipino fighter involved?:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Both you guys had Z Gorress over Fernando Montiel. If anything one of you guys is stupid enough to think Gorress deserved a draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI think N-O-N-E none is the correct answer... :lolhaha:Quote:
Originally Posted by bruceleeAgain,that's coming from VD. How many has he predicted correctly when there is a filipino fighter involved?:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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I know Arum can do some magic with these boxing orgs... just pay a fat sanctioning fee... ;) but jumping 2 divisions then fight for a title in another boxing org is quite difficult to maneuver...Quote:
Originally Posted by happytripBob Arum's magic will thresh out everything.Anyway ,i prefer a fight with MONTIEL for Nonito.The rest will come next.Dont get me wrong...this is just a wish from me.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerOne problem I see in this Donaire-Montiel match-up is, WBO won't sanctioned this fight as a WBO bantam title fight... Montiel is the interim WBO bantam champ while Donaire the IBF/IBO flyweight champ, different organization and different weight division...Quote:
Originally Posted by happytrip
There's more chance for Donaire to challenge the IBF bantam champ and that will be against.... TADA.... winner of Darchinyan/Agbeko fight...;)
I'm also in favor of Donaire vs. Montiel... We already seen Donaire vs. Darchinyan and it's not even competitive...
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI know Arum can do some magic with these boxing orgs... just pay a fat sanctioning fee... ;) but jumping 2 divisions then fight for a title in another boxing org is quite difficult to maneuver...Quote:
Originally Posted by happytripBob Arum's magic will thresh out everything.Anyway ,i prefer a fight with MONTIEL for Nonito.The rest will come next.Dont get me wrong...this is just a wish from me.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
I'm also in favor of Donaire vs. Montiel... We already seen Donaire vs. Darchinyan and it's not even competitive...
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yeah quite complicated,but am sure the big fat prizemoney for the fight will erase these complications.What you think buddy?
I can't exactly remember if I picked Gorres on that one but did you noticed Montiel's badly beaten face after the Gorres fight?? That proof alone deserved at least a draw IMO... Z schooled Montiel in the early and middle rounds...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseQuote:
Originally Posted by bruceleeAgain,that's coming from VD. How many has he predicted correctly when there is a filipino fighter involved?:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Both you guys had Z Gorress over Fernando Montiel. If anything one of you guys is stupid enough to think Gorress deserved a draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI think N-O-N-E none is the correct answer... :lolhaha:Quote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
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Originally Posted by happytripQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI know Arum can do some magic with these boxing orgs... just pay a fat sanctioning fee... ;) but jumping 2 divisions then fight for a title in another boxing org is quite difficult to maneuver...Quote:
Originally Posted by happytrip
I'm also in favor of Donaire vs. Montiel... We already seen Donaire vs. Darchinyan and it's not even competitive...
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yeah quite complicated,but am sure the big fat prizemoney for the fight will erase these complications.What you think buddy?
I'm convinced Arum can do tricky maneuvers... Bring us Donaire vs. Montiel next...
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Montiel always lumps up. That's nothing new. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it Gorres who was dropped more than once and had to hug Montiel like he wanted to make love to him in order to prevent from being knocked out?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI can't exactly remember if I picked Gorres on that one but did you noticed Montiel's badly beaten face after the Gorres fight?? That proof alone deserved at least a draw IMO... Z schooled Montiel in the early and middle rounds...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseQuote:
Originally Posted by brucelee
Both you guys had Z Gorress over Fernando Montiel. If anything one of you guys is stupid enough to think Gorress deserved a draw.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
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As if MONTIEL is allergic to something....maybe to a pounding boxing gloves.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseMontiel always lumps up. That's nothing new. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it Gorres who was dropped more than once and had to hug Montiel like he wanted to make love to him in order to prevent from being knocked out?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI can't exactly remember if I picked Gorres on that one but did you noticed Montiel's badly beaten face after the Gorres fight?? That proof alone deserved at least a draw IMO... Z schooled Montiel in the early and middle rounds...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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I suggest we'll call it as it is, a draw... There's no point of arguing about that fight anymore...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseMontiel always lumps up. That's nothing new. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it Gorres who was dropped more than once and had to hug Montiel like he wanted to make love to him in order to prevent from being knocked out?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI can't exactly remember if I picked Gorres on that one but did you noticed Montiel's badly beaten face after the Gorres fight?? That proof alone deserved at least a draw IMO... Z schooled Montiel in the early and middle rounds...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
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And officially, you have no correct prediction when there is a filipino fighter involved...
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:lolhaha: Montiel got the win. He kicked his ass in his own back yard. When Montiel requested the rematch be in Mexico, Gorress showed his true colors and declined. Montiel knocked out Maldonado insteadQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI suggest we'll call it as it is, a draw... There's no point of arguing about that fight anymore...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseMontiel always lumps up. That's nothing new. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it Gorres who was dropped more than once and had to hug Montiel like he wanted to make love to him in order to prevent from being knocked out?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
And officially, you have no correct prediction when there is a filipino fighter involved...
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:vd: It's funny how you and the rest all jumped on the Donaire band wagon afterwards. I knew about that muthafukka before all you clowns. I had him beating Darcinyan. Post number 9 says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI suggest we'll call it as it is, a draw... There's no point of arguing about that fight anymore...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseMontiel always lumps up. That's nothing new. Correct me if I'm wrong but wasn't it Gorres who was dropped more than once and had to hug Montiel like he wanted to make love to him in order to prevent from being knocked out?Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
And officially, you have no correct prediction when there is a filipino fighter involved...
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http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post323552
Look how many of your flip buddies pick against him. Now all you guys sucking his dikk all of a sudden. :lolhaha:
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise:vd: It's funny how you and the rest all jumped on the Donaire band wagon afterwards. I knew about that muthafukka before all you clowns. I had him beating Darcinyan. Post number 9 says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI suggest we'll call it as it is, a draw... There's no point of arguing about that fight anymore...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
And officially, you have no correct prediction when there is a filipino fighter involved...
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http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post323552
Look how many of your flip buddies pick against him. Now all you guys sucking his dikk all of a sudden. :lolhaha:
I also picked Donaire over Darchinyan (post on other boxing sites)...
BTW, 2 wins of my boxers (Donaire and Viloria) last weekend pushed your fantasy stable into bankruptcy...;)
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I've got Montiel beating Donaire. Don't get me wrong, Donaire really impressed me this weekend! Donaire could build a legacy against guys like Narvaez, Koki Kameda, Viloria, Kaovichit or Naito, possibly Calderon & that'd be great but taking on Montiel he's leaving with a loss!
well, he was american back then, now that he's filipino...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise:vd: It's funny how you and the rest all jumped on the Donaire band wagon afterwards. I knew about that muthafukka before all you clowns. I had him beating Darcinyan. Post number 9 says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI suggest we'll call it as it is, a draw... There's no point of arguing about that fight anymore...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
And officially, you have no correct prediction when there is a filipino fighter involved...
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http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post323552
Look how many of your flip buddies pick against him. Now all you guys sucking his dikk all of a sudden. :lolhaha:
but seriously, that was his coming out party and have been impressed with nonito since then. props to you for picking him over darchi.
no it's not a done deal, Fernando Montiel Vs Eric Morel is a done deal and it's for the WBO Bantamweight title, and it's on the undercard of Pavlik/MoraQuote:
Originally Posted by happytrip
Donaire only landed his sharp accurate punches on Martinez cause Martinez was exactly what i said he was before the fight, he was a sacrificial lamb with an undefeated record, being slayed to make Donaire look good, Montiel is no pushover like Martinez and will be Donaire's toughest opponant since DarchinyanQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerGREAT!! (if it's true) Can't wait for Donaire to land those sharp accurate punches on Montiel...Quote:
Originally Posted by happytrip
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Montiel took another power punchers shots just fine and he was bigger and had a hell of a lot more pop in his punches, his names Jhonny Gonzalez, Montiel is not a bit chinnyQuote:
Originally Posted by happytripme too...truth is i want to see how good Montiel is.That is if he survives Nonito's power punches.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerGREAT!! (if it's true) Can't wait for Donaire to land those sharp accurate punches on Montiel...Quote:
Originally Posted by happytrip
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Donaire is one of the champs at flyweight, Darchinyan is the undisputed super flyweight champ, and Montiel is now making noise at bantamweight, so he's got a lot of weight jumping to do, and for the record, Shaw want's nothing to do with Donaire for personal reasons, Darchinyan's been calling him out since he beat MijaresQuote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
Montiel is 39-2 (29 KO's) Donaire is 21-1 (14 KO's)Quote:
Originally Posted by Killa From Manila
Montiel started at Flyweight and had roughly 18 fights at that weight
roughtly 12 fights at Super Flyweight
and roughly 7 fights at Bantam weight
Donaire has only fought above 112, 14 times, 19 fights against better opposition to 14 fights against shit opposition, hmmm i wonder who has more relevant experience at the higher weights
Too many "roughly" there for Montiel. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesMontiel is 39-2 (29 KO's) Donaire is 21-1 (14 KO's)Quote:
Originally Posted by Killa From Manila
Montiel started at Flyweight and had roughly 18 fights at that weight
roughtly 12 fights at Super Flyweight
and roughly 7 fights at Bantam weight
Donaire has only fought above 112, 14 times, 19 fights against better opposition to 14 fights against shit opposition, hmmm i wonder who has more relevant experience at the higher weights
Numbers, stats, and size speaks for itself for Nonito. Donaire has more experience fighting at higher weight class than Montiel. Nuff said.
Gonzalez is bigger, stronger (height,weight,and reach), and has all of his fights above 115 and never hurt Montiel, what makes you think Donaire will? Montiel lost by SD to Gonzalez and it was his first fight at Bantam, that has to say something, and the fact that Gonzalez went on to challenge Super Bantam king Israel Vazquez and was easily beating him and had him down 2 times i believe before the resilient Vazquez came back to stop him, says even more about Montiel's ability to take on bigger fighters and do very wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Killa From ManilaToo many "roughly" there for Montiel. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesMontiel is 39-2 (29 KO's) Donaire is 21-1 (14 KO's)Quote:
Originally Posted by Killa From Manila
Montiel started at Flyweight and had roughly 18 fights at that weight
roughtly 12 fights at Super Flyweight
and roughly 7 fights at Bantam weight
Donaire has only fought above 112, 14 times, 19 fights against better opposition to 14 fights against shit opposition, hmmm i wonder who has more relevant experience at the higher weights
Numbers, stats, and size speaks for itself for Nonito. Donaire has more experience fighting at higher weight class than Montiel. Nuff said.
Credit to Montiel for facing those big names. But everything will be different for him under the lights if he faces Donaire. Montiel gets hit a lot and that's a well known fact (I won't even argue about it). I've seen Montiel down on the canvas more than twice. Left hook to the body is his money punch, and Donaire can easily avoid them with his quick reflex and can easily fire counterpunch against Montiel at will.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesGonzalez is bigger, stronger (height,weight,and reach), and has all of his fights above 115 and never hurt Montiel, what makes you think Donaire will? Montiel lost by SD to Gonzalez and it was his first fight at Bantam, that has to say something, and the fact that Gonzalez went on to challenge Super Bantam king Israel Vazquez and was easily beating him and had him down 2 times i believe before the resilient Vazquez came back to stop him, says even more about Montiel's ability to take on bigger fighters and do very wellQuote:
Originally Posted by Killa From ManilaToo many "roughly" there for Montiel. :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Numbers, stats, and size speaks for itself for Nonito. Donaire has more experience fighting at higher weight class than Montiel. Nuff said.
I hope they fight sooner than later to find out whos the man!
That's one way of saying you picked against himQuote:
Originally Posted by KKisserwell, he was american back then, now that he's filipino...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise:vd: It's funny how you and the rest all jumped on the Donaire band wagon afterwards. I knew about that muthafukka before all you clowns. I had him beating Darcinyan. Post number 9 says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post323552
Look how many of your flip buddies pick against him. Now all you guys sucking his dikk all of a sudden. :lolhaha:
but seriously, that was his coming out party and have been impressed with nonito since then. props to you for picking him over darchi.
Lol. Reminiscing Donaire's win over Darchinyan aren't we? That was a sweet sweet victory. I get to own eagle for 1 month on that one. :)
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesno it's not a done deal, Fernando Montiel Vs Eric Morel is a done deal and it's for the WBO Bantamweight title, and it's on the undercard of Pavlik/MoraQuote:
Originally Posted by happytrip
Donaire only landed his sharp accurate punches on Martinez cause Martinez was exactly what i said he was before the fight, he was a sacrificial lamb with an undefeated record, being slayed to make Donaire look good, Montiel is no pushover like Martinez and will be Donaire's toughest opponant since DarchinyanQuote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Montiel took another power punchers shots just fine and he was bigger and had a hell of a lot more pop in his punches, his names Jhonny Gonzalez, Montiel is not a bit chinnyQuote:
Originally Posted by happytrip
Donaire is one of the champs at flyweight, Darchinyan is the undisputed super flyweight champ, and Montiel is now making noise at bantamweight, so he's got a lot of weight jumping to do, and for the record, Shaw want's nothing to do with Donaire for personal reasons, Darchinyan's been calling him out since he beat MijaresQuote:
Originally Posted by Julius Rain
Useful info....now i know.
Many boxing experts/fans including here at Saddo expect Martinez to give Donaire a tough fight... There's a considerable number of people who even picked Martinez to upset Donaire...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Montiel doesn't have the reach to match that of Donaire and he's only as tall as Martinez... Tho Montiel has the experience, I still expect Donaire to outsmart and outskill Montiel...
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Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerMany boxing experts/fans including here at Saddo expect Martinez to give Donaire a tough fight... There's a considerable number of people who even picked Martinez to upset Donaire...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Montiel doesn't have the reach to match that of Donaire and he's only as tall as Martinez... Tho Montiel has the experience, I still expect Donaire to outsmart and outskill Montiel...
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I will include this in my expectations come fight nite.
Let me remind you VD why you picked Donaire during that time when almost everybody was picking Darchinyan.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise:vd: It's funny how you and the rest all jumped on the Donaire band wagon afterwards. I knew about that muthafukka before all you clowns. I had him beating Darcinyan. Post number 9 says it all.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxerI suggest we'll call it as it is, a draw... There's no point of arguing about that fight anymore...Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
And officially, you have no correct prediction when there is a filipino fighter involved...
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http://www.saddoboxing.com/boxingfor...tml#post323552
Look how many of your flip buddies pick against him. Now all you guys sucking his dikk all of a sudden. :lolhaha:
You picked Donaire because you hated DArchinyan. You always pick a fighter's opponent if you don't like the guy. You never pick based on intelligent decision. :cool: That is one thing I'm sure about you and many will agree with me on that. :cool: Stop making claims that you know Donaire before he fought Darchinyan.