Pacquiao Marquez 2.... how did you score it?
I rewatched this fight yesterday and scored it for the first time. I remember watching it originially and thinking Marquez nicked it.
Pac Marquez
R1 10-9
R2 10-9
R3 10-8
R4 10-9
R5 9-10
R6 9-10
R7 9-10
R8 9-10
R9 9-10
R10 10-9
R11 9-10
R12 9-10
113-114 to Marquez
I can see how the judges scores varied though. Although both were cut, Marquez had two, one from the clash of heads(Pacquiaos fault tbh) and the second from a Pac left hand which was a huge one, close to what Vlad had against Lewis. As a result, he looked like he took alot more punishment that Manny, although Manny also had a cut over his right eye which irritated him a bit early on, but wasn't as bad as that of Maarquez.
Also, Pac was continuously instigating the action, but Marquez had the heart of a warrior and came back straight after any of Pacs assaults. Hence two of the judges favoured Pac. In all honsesty I would have had no issue with either fight getting the win.
As much as I now look forward to Marquez-Mayweather, one of them will have to take up the role of the aggressor for this to be interesting.
For the record, Pacquiao at 140lbs destroys Marquez, it's just scary that Pac has retained his speed and increased his power at this weight :o
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I had Marquez winning by 1 point:) Marquez deserved to win that fight. But what is done is done.
Re: Pacquiao Marquez 2.... how did you score it?
I can't remember exactly every round how I scored it because I haven't been able to get hold of a copy online since. It was one of the most exciting fights I've ever seen though but I was pissed at the decision. It was close so you can't say it was a robbery, but Marquez doesn't get the credit he deserved and I thought he did enough to win. After what has happened since for Pac, people would be choking on Juan's nuts if he'd got the decision.
I had the fight total 115-112 Marquez. I remember scoring round 8 10-8 Marquez because it was so one sided. If anyone has a copy I'd be extremely grateful.
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hackey
I rewatched this fight yesterday and scored it for the first time. I remember watching it originially and thinking Marquez nicked it.
Pac Marquez
R1 10-9
R2 10-9
R3 10-8
R4 10-9
R5 9-10
R6 9-10
R7 9-10
R8 9-10
R9 9-10
R10 10-9
R11 9-10
R12 9-10
113-114 to Marquez
I can see how the judges scores varied though. Although both were cut, Marquez had two, one from the clash of heads(Pacquiaos fault tbh) and the second from a Pac left hand which was a huge one, close to what Vlad had against Lewis. As a result, he looked like he took alot more punishment that Manny, although Manny also had a cut over his right eye which irritated him a bit early on, but wasn't as bad as that of Maarquez.
Also, Pac was continuously instigating the action, but Marquez had the heart of a warrior and came back straight after any of Pacs assaults. Hence two of the judges favoured Pac. In all honsesty I would have had no issue with either fight getting the win.
As much as I now look forward to Marquez-Mayweather, one of them will have to take up the role of the aggressor for this to be interesting.
For the record, Pacquiao at 140lbs destroys Marquez, it's just scary that Pac has retained his speed and increased his power at this weight :o
Heres my score from ages ago.
1 Marquez
2 Marquez
3 Pacquiao 10-8
4 Pacquiao
5 Marquez
6 Marquez
7 Pacquiao
8 Marquez
9 Pacquiao
10 Pacquiao
11 Marquez
12 Marquez
114-113 JMM
Not sure how you gave the 2nd round to Manny Pacquiao, to be honest i thought JMM clearly won that round he almost dropped Manny Pacquiao with a left hook at the end of that round. The 1st round was close and cautious but JMM's right hand was the best telling blow of that round.
And the 11th round was quite close aswell but JMM went into another gear in the last 2 rounds. Fighting aggressively and i thought he pulled it out.
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bzkfn
I can't remember exactly every round how I scored it because I haven't been able to get hold of a copy online since. It was one of the most exciting fights I've ever seen though but I was pissed at the decision. It was close so you can't say it was a robbery, but Marquez doesn't get the credit he deserved and I thought he did enough to win. After what has happened since for Pac, people would be choking on Juan's nuts if he'd got the decision.
I had the fight total 115-112 Marquez. I remember scoring round 8 10-8 Marquez because it was so one sided. If anyone has a copy I'd be extremely grateful.
The full fight is on youtube if your interested i'll PM you, and yea i remember that 8th round. Where he cut Manny Pacquiao's eye, and battered him with body shots. That round was for certain borderline 10-8 round IMO. And i almost scored it 10-8 myself.
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bzkfn
I can't remember exactly every round how I scored it because I haven't been able to get hold of a copy online since. It was one of the most exciting fights I've ever seen though but I was pissed at the decision. It was close so you can't say it was a robbery, but Marquez doesn't get the credit he deserved and I thought he did enough to win. After what has happened since for Pac, people would be choking on Juan's nuts if he'd got the decision.
I had the fight total 115-112 Marquez. I remember scoring round 8 10-8 Marquez because it was so one sided. If anyone has a copy I'd be extremely grateful.
The full fight is on youtube if your interested i'll PM you, and yea i remember that 8th round. Where he cut Manny Pacquiao's eye, and battered him with body shots. That round was for certain borderline 10-8 round IMO. And i almost scored it 10-8 myself.
i had it 115-112 for JMM
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115-112 Pac. The ref didn't the 2nd KD scored by Manny.
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bzkfn
I can't remember exactly every round how I scored it because I haven't been able to get hold of a copy online since. It was one of the most exciting fights I've ever seen though but I was pissed at the decision. It was close so you can't say it was a robbery, but Marquez doesn't get the credit he deserved and I thought he did enough to win. After what has happened since for Pac, people would be choking on Juan's nuts if he'd got the decision.
I had the fight total 115-112 Marquez. I remember scoring round 8 10-8 Marquez because it was so one sided. If anyone has a copy I'd be extremely grateful.
The full fight is on youtube if your interested i'll PM you, and yea i remember that 8th round. Where he cut Manny Pacquiao's eye, and battered him with body shots. That round was for certain borderline 10-8 round IMO. And i almost scored it 10-8 myself.
I'm after an AVI copy I can download really. I have an external hard drive for storing fights so I'm looking for a copy I can keep. If you know of one, I'd be grateful if you can point me in that direction. Cheers bud.
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ASIAN SENSATION
115-112 Pac. The ref didn't the 2nd KD scored by Manny.
Do you have the full scorecard by any chance? That's an awfully wide scorecard for Pac, I had it 114-112 for Marquez.
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I had the fight the exact opposite from the record books.
I had the first fight by Manny Decision (draw on the record books)
Second fight I scored a draw.
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amat
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ASIAN SENSATION
115-112 Pac. The ref didn't the 2nd KD scored by Manny.
Do you have the full scorecard by any chance? That's an awfully wide scorecard for Pac, I had it 114-112 for Marquez.
1 Pacquiao
2 Marquez
3 Pacquiao (10-7 round) the ref didn't see the 2nd KD
4 Pacquiao
5 Marquez
6 Marquez
7 Pacquiao
8 Marquez
9 Pacquiao
10 Pacquiao
11 Marquez
12 Marquez
115-112 Pac
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I had it 115-112 to Marquez.
Close fight though, I couldn't complain about the result.
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Pugilistic
I had it 115-112 to Marquez.
Close fight though, I couldn't complain about the result.
How do you have Marquez up by 4 rounds if the knockdown is taken into consideration.
PAcquiao won rounds 1,3,4,7,9,10,11
Marquez won 2,5,6,8,12
115-112 for Pacquiao I believe.
Rounds up for debate 1,7,11
Round 1 Marquez landed one good punch, Whereas Pacquiao landed a good striaght left to the chin, several lefts to the body, and twice as many punches in general were landed in his favor.
Round 7 is the only close round I would concede could have gone either way, but Pacquiao landed more punches in the round, was more exciting, and I gave it to him for that reason.
I think people need to watch round 11 again as a whole: Pacman blocked most of what Marquez was throwing in the round, Manny was landed the better punches in the round, and had the better combinations. IMO this was one of the most obvious rounds Manny deserved that people don't give him on here, but maybe thats because they haven't seen the fight in awhile.
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I cant remember the rounds exactly but i had it 114-113 Marquez.
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Taeth
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Pugilistic
I had it 115-112 to Marquez.
Close fight though, I couldn't complain about the result.
How do you have Marquez up by 4 rounds if the knockdown is taken into consideration.
PAcquiao won rounds 1,3,4,7,9,10,11
Marquez won 2,5,6,8,12
115-112 for Pacquiao I believe.
Rounds up for debate 1,7,11
Round 1 Marquez landed one good punch, Whereas Pacquiao landed a good striaght left to the chin, several lefts to the body, and twice as many punches in general were landed in his favor.
Round 7 is the only close round I would concede could have gone either way, but Pacquiao landed more punches in the round, was more exciting, and I gave it to him for that reason.
I think people need to watch round 11 again as a whole: Pacman blocked most of what Marquez was throwing in the round, Manny was landed the better punches in the round, and had the better combinations. IMO this was one of the most obvious rounds Manny deserved that people don't give him on here, but maybe thats because they haven't seen the fight in awhile.
I agree with almost all you wrote.
I just watched it again and on my TV Pac. didn’t block all that Marquez was throwing in the 11th, that one and the first I believe are debatable. I scored the first for Pac and the 11 for Marquez, so I had it 114 – 113 for Pacquiao. Close fight though.
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I had it 114-113 for Pacquaio. I've posted my round by round scoring somewhere.
It was too close that I gave it to Pac because Marquez was saved by the bell in the 3rd round. Had the knockdown happened 2 minutes before the bell, Marquez would have been a goner.
No doubt Pac won it.:cool:
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brucelee
I had it 114-113 for Pacquaio. I've posted my round by round scoring somewhere.
It was too close that I gave it to Pac because Marquez was saved by the bell in the 3rd round. Had the knockdown happened 2 minutes before the bell, Marquez would have been a goner.
No doubt Pac won it.:cool:
yea that's real top notch scoring right there :rolleyes:, and plz, Marquez was floored 3 times in the first round of their first fight, made it the full 12, the knockdown in the rematch wasn't anywhere as devastating
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I have PAC winning by one point.
Pacquiao did some damage against Juan Marquez. And he knock him down in the 3rd round and a knockdown that the ref did not see. JMM grab the rope to recover. If JMM did not grab the rope he will fall down the canvas. When the bell rings JMM don't known where his corner at. ;D
Anyway heres the video
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CrEJeBOFqJo
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ElTerribleMorales
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brucelee
I had it 114-113 for Pacquaio. I've posted my round by round scoring somewhere.
It was too close that I gave it to Pac because Marquez was saved by the bell in the 3rd round. Had the knockdown happened 2 minutes before the bell, Marquez would have been a goner.
No doubt Pac won it.:cool:
yea that's real top notch scoring right there :rolleyes:, and plz, Marquez was floored 3 times in the first round of their first fight, made it the full 12, the knockdown in the rematch wasn't anywhere as devastating
Just a suggestion: Try to watch pac vs jmm2 again. Watch it closely especially during the knockdowns.:cool: I've done it.
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ElTerribleMorales
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brucelee
I had it 114-113 for Pacquaio. I've posted my round by round scoring somewhere.
It was too close that I gave it to Pac because Marquez was saved by the bell in the 3rd round. Had the knockdown happened 2 minutes before the bell, Marquez would have been a goner.
No doubt Pac won it.:cool:
yea that's real top notch scoring right there :rolleyes:, and plz, Marquez was floored 3 times in the first round of their first fight, made it the full 12, the knockdown in the rematch wasn't anywhere as devastating
I thought it was, i think Marquez could have been stopped had it not happened right at the end of the round, after the follow up assault Marquez walked to Pacquiao's corner after the round was over.
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Taeth
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Pugilistic
I had it 115-112 to Marquez.
Close fight though, I couldn't complain about the result.
How do you have Marquez up by 4 rounds if the knockdown is taken into consideration.
PAcquiao won rounds 1,3,4,7,9,10,11
Marquez won 2,5,6,8,12
115-112 for Pacquiao I believe.
Rounds up for debate 1,7,11
Round 1 Marquez landed one good punch, Whereas Pacquiao landed a good striaght left to the chin, several lefts to the body, and twice as many punches in general were landed in his favor.
Round 7 is the only close round I would concede could have gone either way, but Pacquiao landed more punches in the round, was more exciting, and I gave it to him for that reason.
I think people need to watch round 11 again as a whole: Pacman blocked most of what Marquez was throwing in the round, Manny was landed the better punches in the round, and had the better combinations. IMO this was one of the most obvious rounds Manny deserved that people don't give him on here, but maybe thats because they haven't seen the fight in awhile.
I agree with almost all you wrote.
I just watched it again and on my TV Pac. didn’t block all that Marquez was throwing in the 11th, that one and the first I believe are debatable. I scored the first for Pac and the 11 for Marquez, so I had it 114 – 113 for Pacquiao. Close fight though.
He didn't block everything Marquez threw, but a lot of it, and pacquiao out landed him significantly in that round, I think thats one of the most decisive rounds Manny won.
