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on sky before the fight they said that Floyd Sr. had been turning up to training late and not really putting much effort into the training camp, i cant imagine that De La Hoya would have put up with that so i'd presumme this is the first time his been like this,
did floyd know what that the fight was a lost cause?
I got that impressin from the 24/7 shows.... his his body didn't match the words out of his mouth.
Only thing i can think of is maybe he knew how bad his punch resistance was in sparring cos Hatton looked shit hot on the pads and in the training.
at the same time he knows boxing and im sure he was aware of pac's capabilitysQuote:
Originally Posted by Tins06
Surly he must have thought he could mold Hatton though. I mean if he thought to himself " Ricky got no fucking chance,pacs to good, but fuck it im getting paid"....surly not?Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonat the same time he knows boxing and im sure he was aware of pac's capabilitysQuote:
Originally Posted by Tins06
yeah thats how i seen it before the fight... too intrested in premoting himself on 24/7.Quote:
Originally Posted by Tins06Surly he must have thought he could mold Hatton though. I mean if he thought to himself " Ricky got no fucking chance,pacs to good, but fuck it im getting paid"....surly not?Quote:
Originally Posted by hitmanhattonat the same time he knows boxing and im sure he was aware of pac's capabilitysQuote:
Originally Posted by Tins06
just one of the many leeches Ricky has around him these days :(
well hed have had to choices, Hatton loses but i dont get paid if he refuses to train him, or he gets paid but keeps his own personal opinions to himself
i remember seeing on one of the beyond the glory programmes that most of leonards team were pretty certain SRL was gonna lose to Hagler but didnt say anything to him as they didnt want to dent his confidence, so perhaps mayweather was doing something similar, would explain his apparent lack of commitment to the training camp leading up to the fight
I don't know what the deal was there, but it just feels like something wasn't right at all. I tried to brush off all the rumours from the camp as I really wanted to believe that I would see the best possible Ricky Hatton in another huge fight. But we obviously didn't, and it makes you think about all that has transpired.
Mayweather has really shown himself to be something else. And I really question why he was around in the first place. It's hard enough even understanding what Floyd is saying. You have him desperately looking for words because he can't finish his sentences. He really reminds me of some of my younger second language learners, but you expect it of them. Maybe his boxing knowledge is very good, but but he cannot stop talking about himself and even when he can be understood it is often half baked nonsense. I struggle to see what he has added to Hattons game, and it seems to have been a squandered partnership. But Hatton chose to sail the ship at the end of the day, so we can't blame it all on Floyd.
I really am curious to know what the deal was with Hattons camp. Was he really struggling in the initial sparring? Why was sparring stopped two days early? Why was Hatton so lacking in ANY of the basics? Why was Floyd late so often? What was the nature of the rift in training? Did Hatton have to dry out too much in the final week? Why did Floyd turn up to the fight 30 minutes before it started?
These are all rumours or things that have been circulating. And I'm curious to know the deal. It doesn't sound like a well prepared, focussed camp to me if even half these things are true.
More loveliness about Mayweather Snr.
Go down to the part about No Joy....
All-Time Pacquiao
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I don't belive that Floyd thought this, he was very very vocal and disparaging about Roach in the build up and practically put his entire rep on the line for this one fight. They had one camp together and ricky did look a little better against Paulie as opposed to Lazcano, so they hired him again, but I'm sure there seems to be something going on between Beard and Mayweather, and probably why things got weirder as the fight got closer.
I wouldn't be surprised if old Floyd takes the piss like that (turning up late etc) with other fighters he's trained.
He was in a no lose situation anyway.
Ricky wins he takes the credit for improving him. Ricky loses, he lost becuase he didn't listen to him.
UNLESS!
He new real early that Hatton was fucked, but kept running his mouth to get good odds on the Pacman.:detective:
I was kinda surprised at Hatton's punch resistance (lack of) in the fight. I mean that Hail Mary Left hand would have dropped nearly anyone, but the right hooks from Manny have always struck me as more snappy, than queer street inducing.
This is exactly what happens to fighters who struggle to make weight. The fluid that surrounds their brain gets reduced and their brain will get rattled around more.
ooops
Hell no he didn't know, if his guy would've won he'd be writing more poems about how much of genius he is and how little effort it took. The only thing i can say for the hatton camp is that is sucks ass that he trained all that time to forget one of the first rules of boxing...keep your damn hands up.
well floyd knows boxing so im sure he had at the very least doubts about hatton winning, but what was he gonna do refuse to train him and lose out of that money ??
Ricky has been getting more and more chinny in the latter part of his career. I was surprised when Floyd knocked him out, when Collazo and Lazcano had him wobbling about also. He walked through shots to get close and without that punch resistance......well thats a huge part of his game that's no longer effective.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deanrw
" I was told that Oscar De La Hoya was infuriated by the results of the fight and had some harsh words for Mayweather Sr. afterwards in the dressing room."Quote:
Originally Posted by miles
damn, that's gotta say something, seeing how DLH always praises Mayweather Sr.