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Pacquiao went wrong
Ricky Hatton decided to fight Manny Pacquiao at some point in January...
It all went firmly downhill from there.
Bang on.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
Twice actually.rd 1 and rd 2.
Loads of fighters have had much worse things happen during their training, that's life.
Saying that, I don't think we will ever find out what went wrong, in the 24/7 they all seemed happy and in good spirits.
Correct, Pacquiao was what went wrong, when a fighter gets blasted out inside 2 rounds with the 3 rd knockdown knocking you out cold, nothing you have done in camp or whatever anyone has told you to do is going to make one scrap of difference to the result. The trainer isn't in the ring fighting Pacquiao, Hatton was obliterated from the first bell until the final count out! Hatton had no time to carry out any instructions Mayweather would have given him pre fight, he was in survival mode at about 1 minute into the fight!! No matter who was training Hatton the same result would have occurred.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahn
I agree... Below is my reply to Lefty few days ago when he asked me of my view of the fight:Quote:
Originally Posted by JazMerkin
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"I think Hatton has the wrong frame of mind from the start, since the time this fight was still in negotiation... Hatton thinks he's the favorite coz he's the man at 140, the bigger and stronger boxer... He thinks he's more popular coz he has 35,000 fans flying over the Atlantic just to see him fight... This was manifested when he won't budge from a 50-50 purse split offer...
Reality sets in to Hatton but it's too late when it's only days into the fight... Hatton was bitter when most boxing experts, writers, and opinion polls pointed to a PAC victory and writing off his chances of winning the fight... Hatton was bitter seeing the odds opening more almost installing PAC as a 3 to 1 favorite 1 day into the fight...
Having "Pride in Battle" tattoed on his back for this fight, Hatton approached the fight riding on that pride... He wanted to show who's the man, who's the bigger and stronger man... That's where he got it all wrong because PAC is truly the better boxer overall and that leads to his early downfall...
I think if Hatton already considered PAC a very dangerous opponent from the start, he could have prepared for it properly and approached the fight with more caution and more defense... But what we always hear from Hatton were;
"I'm the bigger and stronger guy..."
"This is my house, I'm unbeatable at 140..."
"People were reading too much on Manny's last fight..."
"I will be the best pound-for-pound boxer after I defeat Manny..."
:( "
Pac is quicker, better footwork, better head movement, throws combinations, has a better chin, has faced overall better opponets....... no wonder Hatton lost, does a toy poodle beat up a pit bull? Oh and like beating Mallinagi gets you ready for Pacquiao, Pleeease! What exactly do they put in their pipes in Manchester?
Not keen on excuses.Pacquiao had him from jump off and exploited his game point blank.
Have not been high on the 24/7 series though.It really would not have mattered as far as result .....but its becoming more and more one big glam show ad serving as a blah-blah platform for the trainers drama and sub plots as much as the actual fight breakdown it self.HBO needs to look outside of itself,give fans & viewers the entire history.
This quote by Hatton is the main reason I'm glad it ended the way it ended.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
Guess Hatton now fully understood the meaning of "best pound-for-pound boxer" ... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by TitoFanThis quote by Hatton is the main reason I'm glad it ended the way it ended.Quote:
Originally Posted by SaddoBoxer
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To be honest , i dont think anything went wrong with the Hatton camp that affected the outcome. Simple fact is Manny is light years ahead of Ricky , Hatton fought like he has many times successfully before , it didnt work because PACMAN was to good, to fast , and to powerful.
So not so much what went wrong for Hatton , but what went right for PACMAN.
I think a ton of things lead up to the KO loss for Ricky, but for Bunce to say he doesn't want to see Ricky fight again because "He can't fight at that level anymore" it's ridiculous! Ricky only tried to fight at the elite level twice PBF and Manny and he lost both by KO/TKO.
Ricky is a very good fighter, he's dominated 140, he has fought pretty much everyone in the division and beat them. There is no reason to think Ricky is 100% done because of 2 losses to the top 2 P4P fighters.
Nothing that happened happened in camp was Hatton's downfall.
Rucks with trainers etc will affect your frame of mind, make you pick the wrong game plan, come in unfocused etc...
What they WON'T do is make you fundimentally flawed, walk forwards in a straight line with your chin up and a piss poor excuse for a guard resting on your chest.
hatton didn't get systematically broken down because of frustration/a bad gameplan etc... he just walked into a blitz. His team not working properly would have maybe affected him in a longer, competative fight.
I could imagine that things went wrong and that Ricky might have been pissed off by some of Mayweather's behaviors, it could have affected something. However, I do no think that these things would have ultimately changed the issue of the fight, I always said Pacman would K.O Ricky around the seven because he was too skilled for him, when I saw that they only had 4 pounds of difference on the scale and not like 10 like I expected, I thought: "oh shit, the bigger man isn't that bigger after all" and so went down one of his hidden tricky card to win this fight. He might have lasted longer, but I do not see the fight going the other way at all.
Nothing went wrong. Just more Hatton excuses. He's just good enough at that level. Anyone that charges in at someone like Manny Pac with his guard down is asking for trouble.
Something tells me that we will see the same kind of KO in Klitsch-Haye fight.
Why are you so angry? :-\Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Invincible
Really? To read your name I wouldn't think so... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Steelhammer
And after your extensive 12, or 15 post you know everyone here so well and who they rooted for before or after the Morales fight how?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Invincible
Indeed;DQuote:
Originally Posted by AdamGBReally? To read your name I wouldn't think so... ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by Dr. Steelhammer
Its nice when someone with so few posts and contributions on SADDO'S puts the rest of us right on a few points.Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Invincible
I for one thankyou for making us better people, thanks alot .
ps. do you make a living from you boxing knowledge or are you self taught ?
What on earth is the guy raving about exactly? :-\
Bandwagon jumpers? :rolleyes:
I think people have saluted Manny on a top win and the same Hatton fans are still Hatton fans. It's just that we all know Ricky can fight a lot better than he did, hardly bandwagon jumping is it now? Some people! ;D
Hatton wasnt in the right frame of mind blah blah, im sorry but the guy is a fourty odd fight vet who has been in some of the biggest fights in boxing, plain and simple Hatton is done, im not using that as an excuse i think Pac would possibly beat him at anytime in his career, but Hatton punch resistance has gone.
Haton should not fight again he will eb knocked out by anyone with any sort of power the writing on the wall was there in the Lazcano figth and i actully thought Paulie would beat him, but we all know Paulie is also done.
I think it is obvious Hatton lost a step (a few steps actually). Not to take anything away from Pac but Hatton hasnt been in his prime for a while now.....Hatton's style makes for a short career and that is evidenced here. Pac has also been in some wars but his body is able to physically take it better than Hatton's....
The Hatton that fought Kostya would have at least given Pac a run for his money.....I am not saying he would have beat Pac because I cant but he would have at least been competitive.
Pac is a rare fighter, we all need to appreciate him for what he is - A great fighter that is willing to fight the best and doesnt dodge anyone unlike many of the top fighters of the last 10 years....
Next everyone will be asking, What went wrong in Mayweather camp? The fact is, is that Manny is pure and bonified thorough bred. This guy is a machine and hes on a path of destruction. If, and I say IF Mayweather gets my marquez he has a rude awakening waiting for him from the hands of the Pac Man.
If you think that the Hatton that fought Kostya would have given Manny a run you must mean that he would have gotten KO'd in 3 rounds instead of 2. It would be no different at any point in hattons career. Manny is just a far superior fighter and athelete than Hatton ever was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
I disagree. Hatton just fought the worst tactical fight of his career and paid the price. The best Hatton makes it a much tougher, closer fight than what it was.Quote:
Originally Posted by BigLukeIf you think that the Hatton that fought Kostya would have given Manny a run you must mean that he would have gotten KO'd in 3 rounds instead of 2. It would be no different at any point in hattons career. Manny is just a far superior fighter and athelete than Hatton ever was.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hunter
no offense, but there was a LARGE number of Pac fans before the fight on this forum.. I don't know one poster who has all of a sudden become a pac fan or was bragging about how good he is now, and wasn't before the fight.. Pac fans on this site, unfortuntely are way over the top about it, but it's something that grows on you..Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. InvincibleFirst of all, I'm nowhere near new to boxing forums but you're right.....I don't know what people here thought before or after Morales, and it doesn't matter. What I do know though is that almost every time I post something in regaurds to Hatton I immediately start getting hateful reply's from dense members who want nothing more than to 'big up' Manny because they are ball-huggers due to his wins lately. These fans didn't exist a few months back. This is what I'm talking about and don't take it personally if it doesn't apply to you. I said 'allot of yall', not everyone.Quote:
Originally Posted by DaxxKahnAnd after your extensive 12, or 15 post you know everyone here so well and who they rooted for before or after the Morales fight how?Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Invincible
as far as the topic goes, i don't think anything went "wrong" in the hatton camp that determined the outcome of the fight.. Assuming hatton was working a bit more on defense and on his jab in training, we didn't see that in the fight.. we saw vintage, old school hatton and nothing more.. that was what went wrong. I really doubt that Mayweather said, "Just do what you always do".. which is why i believe he was so pissed after the fight at the whole situation..
Yah mon, just like Tszyu and Castillo were done when they fought Hatton?Quote:
Originally Posted by skel1983