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Why the hate against Khan? Come on in for the answer
I've mentioned this before only to be ridiculed but hopefully, after reading this article, we can see exactly 'WHY' there is so much hatred agaisnt Khan who is a down to the earth, nice kid.
Amir Khan - The Boy They Love To Hate
Amir Khan - The Boy They Love To Hate
By Ziggy Shah: Throughout the 1990’s there was one British boxer who stood head and shoulders above them all, former WBO middle and super middleweight champion, Chris Eubank. He was without a doubt one of the greatest fighters the country has ever produced. However, despite his success, he was also perhaps the most hated boxer in British history, and for many years I have been puzzled as to why there was such hatred for a man who sacrificed so much for his sport and his country. Whether it was down to his cocky arrogant nature, or the fact that he was a poser who loved attention, one thing is sure, he was indeed ‘the man they loved to hate’.
Over a decade later we again face the same scenario, but this time the man is a boy, he is not cocky or arrogant, and most of all he does not thrive on the attention like his predecessor. Ladies and Gentlemen let me introduce you to, Amir Khan. Confused? Well don’t be..
He may be young, rich and talented and quite possibly on the road to becoming Britain’s greatest ever boxer, but that hasn’t stopped him being a figure of hate for a large section of British fight fans. Any sportsman or celebrity who put themselves in the limelight can expect their fair share of critics but the hatred becomes much worse when it is fixated on race
The proof was seen after Khan’s shock defeat to Breidis Prescott in September. The public reaction to this echoed the feeling that was hidden amongst many boxing fans. It’s almost as though they were waiting for it to happen. Within hours of defeat, live boxing Internet forums were covered with phrases such as ‘the paki deserved it’, ‘Prescott the paki basher’ and other sick comments relating to Khan’s race, cultural identity and the legitimacy of his being British.
More recently, instead of celebrating his victory over the Mexican legend, Marco Antonio Barrera, many fans are accusing him of intentionally head-butting his opponent in a bid to gain an advantage.
Any moderate fight fans would however, agree that from the moment Barrera was caught flush, he would lose the contest.
Barrera was too small and slow and looked over-matched against the younger, hungrier Khan.
This however, did not deter fans from bombarding Asian spectators with racial abuse, something which has been present at all Khan’s fights but is over looked by any media coverage. Also, as you read, the abuse continues on boxing websites and forums throughout the world. Still the hatred grows with every successful step he takes in accomplishing his dream, and still they wait and pray for another ‘Prescott slaying’.
The abuse seems unreasonable, given the fact that it was Khan who brought back a silver medal for his country at the Athens Olympics in 2004. And it is Khan who spends his time on the road championing good causes, so that anyone from any race or cultural background can in some way benefit from him.
Khan does not drink, smoke or enjoy the high life; his dedication to his sport should itself excel him into being a perfect role model for young and old regardless of colour or creed. He has represented his country in a manner in which any patriotic Englishman would be proud, however, in reality no matter what he does or does not achieve in the future, he will still be regarded by a large section of British fight fans, as quite simply, ‘a foreigner.’
So what now? There is no easy answer or solution to this deep rooted problem, but all true British boxing fans need to get out there and get behind their best young prospect and show him the respect and adulation he so rightly deserves.
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I've never been especially a fan of Khan but I admit that I've always wondered why he had such a bad reception, especially for the normally very supportive and amazing fans of England.
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I have NO DOUBT the negs will flow as they have in the past when I mentioned that 'race and religion' have ALOT to do with the hate against Khan. I guess those that neg just can't come to terms with this reality...
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Hes a cock plain and simple, obviously there is always racist cunts about and they seem to crop up more hid behind there pc screens with there abuse on interent forums.
But the racist slant just doesnt sit right with me, i work with approx 250 asian/muslim lads and id say about 2% have a good word to say about Kahn, they were even coming in saying how the Barerra fight was fixed and they wished Kahn would of been smashed in cos hes a cocky so and so etc etc.
I think alot of the abuse/hate comes from the fact he has so much so early without actully acheiveing anything, and to say he is not cocky?? The same guy who said he was quicker and would beat Floyd after 8 fights as a pro?
To sat hes the best prospect i totally disagree with that 100% Theres a reason he has by passed decent British pros like Murray and Thaxton because Warren doesnt want him exposed at such a low level.
Kahn fights Barrera and gets a world title shot while making millions of pounds while poor Prescott cant buy a fight and people seem to forget he knocked Kahn out cold in less than 60 seconds??
Kahn is a tool if you ask me.
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sanchez786
I have NO DOUBT the negs will flow as they have in the past when I mentioned that 'race and religion' have ALOT to do with the hate against Khan. I guess those that neg just can't come to terms with this reality...
I don't know if it is religion or race but I really wonder, if the kid would have a bad attitude or would be too cocky I could understand but he's kinda genuinely kind from what I've read of him and kinda very humble. Like I stated, I don't especially like him and I can understand why peoples wouldn't be neither but am wondering about the flow of "hate" he receives, even in England as I don't see what he did to deserve such. Perhaps there is histories about him that I don't know but if that,s the case and if somebody here knows about it, I would gladly learn from it as it seems to be a missing specter in my boxing field.
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Same thing happened to Froch... early in his Career the BBC did a best thing since sliced bread campain and Froch made alot of bold claims with only a few fights under his belt... this rightly so pisses people off.
sadly for Froch he didn't have the race card to play :rolleyes:
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sanchez786
I have NO DOUBT the negs will flow as they have in the past when I mentioned that 'race and religion' have ALOT to do with the hate against Khan. I guess those that neg just can't come to terms with this reality...
I don't know if it is religion or race but I really wonder, if the kid would have a bad attitude or would be too cocky I could understand but he's kinda genuinely kind from what I've read of him and kinda very humble. Like I stated, I don't especially like him and I can understand why peoples wouldn't be neither but am wondering about the flow of "hate" he receives, even in England as I don't see what he did to deserve such. Perhaps there is histories about him that I don't know but if that,s the case and if somebody here knows about it, I would gladly learn from it as it seems to be a missing specter in my boxing field.
What Kahn have you seen? I think him his team everything about him is pathetic, look at his dvd that he brought out after the Prescott which was called Amir kahn " The Champion " the champion of what?? You just got destroyed in 59 seconds.
He does come across humble and very respectful in some instances i agree with that but then in other cases he just puts his foot in it and sounds like an absolute dick.
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Because he :moped: like crazy and now :crowd: are scared to go for a jog or cross the street because Khan will not stop at the intersection:sitr: It's only a broken leg after all :vd:
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Nameless
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sanchez786
I have NO DOUBT the negs will flow as they have in the past when I mentioned that 'race and religion' have ALOT to do with the hate against Khan. I guess those that neg just can't come to terms with this reality...
I don't know if it is religion or race but I really wonder, if the kid would have a bad attitude or would be too cocky I could understand but he's kinda genuinely kind from what I've read of him and kinda very humble. Like I stated, I don't especially like him and I can understand why peoples wouldn't be neither but am wondering about the flow of "hate" he receives, even in England as I don't see what he did to deserve such. Perhaps there is histories about him that I don't know but if that,s the case and if somebody here knows about it, I would gladly learn from it as it seems to be a missing specter in my boxing field.
What Kahn have you seen? I think him his team everything about him is pathetic, look at his dvd that he brought out after the Prescott which was called Amir kahn " The Champion " the champion of what?? You just got destroyed in 59 seconds.
He does come across humble and very respectful in some instances i agree with that but then in other cases he just puts his foot in it and sounds like an absolute dick.
I've not seen the DVD, admitting you are right (I give you the benefit of the doubt as ou've seen something I haven't), that could explain why some peoples don't like him, sure, but does that deserve that most "hate" because at this level, I think we seriously can call it hate toward him?
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Having heard a fair bit of racial abuse hurled at him at the Hatton-Pacquiao weigh-in, yes there is obviously a strong racial element with 'some' people. BUT, not with everyone, part of it is just that British disease of disliking anyone who might be good at something. Another is that the media frequently misquote him than any other fighter I've seen. I've seen press conferences where he's been humble, and than the media drastically 'sex up' his quotes so he seems like a complete knob. Another is the Warren factor. It's the same reason people hate James DeGale, but not Darren Sutherland, because Warren has worked hard over the years to engender this hate for his guys, especially those he pushes a lot. It's not all racism, not with everyone, and I seriously think you need to realize that. With some peolple it most definitely is, but it's not just that. I do like him & am going to his next fight, he's a likable kid, but everyone can't like the same fighters.
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JazMerkin
Having heard a fair bit of racial abuse hurled at him at the Hatton-Pacquiao weigh-in, yes there is obviously a strong racial element with 'some' people. BUT, not with everyone, part of it is just that British disease of disliking anyone who might be good at something. Another is that the media frequently misquote him than any other fighter I've seen. I've seen press conferences where he's been humble, and than the media drastically 'sex up' his quotes so he seems like a complete knob. Another is the Warren factor. It's the same reason people hate James DeGale, but not Darren Sutherland, because Warren has worked hard over the years to engender this hate for his guys, especially those he pushes a lot. It's not all racism, not with everyone, and I seriously think you need to realize that. With some peolple it most definitely is, but it's not just that. I do like him & am going to his next fight, he's a likable kid, but everyone can't like the same fighters.
People hate de Gale because of Warren? How do you work that out?
People hate De Gale including myself because again hes a big mouthed tool, i have seen him ono plenty of shows and again he is another loud mouth idiot, he only signed with Warren recently and most people who hate him now have hated him way before he signed with Warren.
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JazMerkin
Having heard a fair bit of racial abuse hurled at him at the Hatton-Pacquiao weigh-in, yes there is obviously a strong racial element with 'some' people. BUT, not with everyone, part of it is just that British disease of disliking anyone who might be good at something. Another is that the media frequently misquote him than any other fighter I've seen. I've seen press conferences where he's been humble, and than the media drastically 'sex up' his quotes so he seems like a complete knob. Another is the Warren factor. It's the same reason people hate James DeGale, but not Darren Sutherland, because Warren has worked hard over the years to engender this hate for his guys, especially those he pushes a lot. It's not all racism, not with everyone, and I seriously think you need to realize that. With some peolple it most definitely is, but it's not just that. I do like him & am going to his next fight, he's a likable kid, but everyone can't like the same fighters.
People hate de Gale because of Warren? How do you work that out?
People hate De Gale including myself because again hes a big mouthed tool, i have seen him ono plenty of shows and again he is another loud mouth idiot, he only signed with Warren recently and most people who hate him now have hated him way before he signed with Warren.
Yeah, he's got a mouth, but so does George Groves, and people don't seem to hate him. The fact Groves is with Hayemaker I think benefits him, PR-wise.
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JazMerkin
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skel1983
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JazMerkin
Having heard a fair bit of racial abuse hurled at him at the Hatton-Pacquiao weigh-in, yes there is obviously a strong racial element with 'some' people. BUT, not with everyone, part of it is just that British disease of disliking anyone who might be good at something. Another is that the media frequently misquote him than any other fighter I've seen. I've seen press conferences where he's been humble, and than the media drastically 'sex up' his quotes so he seems like a complete knob. Another is the Warren factor. It's the same reason people hate James DeGale, but not Darren Sutherland, because Warren has worked hard over the years to engender this hate for his guys, especially those he pushes a lot. It's not all racism, not with everyone, and I seriously think you need to realize that. With some peolple it most definitely is, but it's not just that. I do like him & am going to his next fight, he's a likable kid, but everyone can't like the same fighters.
People hate de Gale because of Warren? How do you work that out?
People hate De Gale including myself because again hes a big mouthed tool, i have seen him ono plenty of shows and again he is another loud mouth idiot, he only signed with Warren recently and most people who hate him now have hated him way before he signed with Warren.
Yeah, he's got a mouth, but so does George Groves, and people don't seem to hate him. The fact Groves is with Hayemaker I think benefits him, PR-wise.
Oh i see what you mean, but Groves is a bit under the radar and DE Gale is obvioulsy more famous becasue of his Olympic exploits.
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Within hours of defeat, live boxing Internet forums were covered with phrases such as ‘the paki deserved it’, ‘Prescott the paki basher’ and other sick comments relating to Khan’s race, cultural identity and the legitimacy of his being British.
These people are not real fight fans,they are thugs who would like to see others beaten and then ridiculed. (They hope) back to their shallow end of the gene pool where they are themselves stuck in their own judgments.
Its not all their fault though, they have been brought up that way or taught that way of thinking and being through some parenting or social group.
Mate racism is hidden in many people still. It is nearly against the law to be outwardly racist these days.
The parents of the people you have to deal with now were the teachers of that hatred. Its still there being supressed and underlying in many within this last two generations and we all know it and we all know why.
But there are two sides to it now there are the useless whites who cant move on and they try to play the race card as an excuse for why they are not 'personally better off' than some of the people they are picking on.
Then there are all different shades of people that also try to play that same race card in reverse. Thats called a stale mate and two sets of people are measuring their own personal worth with the same stupid stick but reversed.
Then you have different people from all races who are living to the full and saying; you know what, color or shade of skin is nothing, there are brilliant surgeons, lawyers,police,fighters in the forces,footy players,boxers,teachers you name it all there to help whoever needs helping because they all choose to stand alone above any race.
The others from both sides of all races are unfortunately lazy,scared or both and seek to blame others so they dont have to deal with any change. They only see surface images of people and cant look into a mirror for very long because they have lost compassion and their love and so their spark for life is going out, so they seek someone else to blame, outside of themselves.
These types throw the sh!t (it sticks to them and it is their sh!t) they will eventually be consumed or sickened by it all literally;
The truth is:If you can find compassion for why they are like the way they are,then you no longer stand against them (they no longer have an opposite) the friction of it is removed for you too, then you get to fly free of them and if done on mass they would eventually get to see what they are missing.
You though have the option, to also get stuck in their sh!t or jump over it and become stronger from it.
To them its sh!t, to you it can be sh!t too, or manure for your growth or a hurdle that makes you stronger so you can get even higher.
What is great is the fact that at the end of the day,black brown ,blue, yellow or white doesnt count for anything ;you stand alone in your accomplishments, as will Mr Kahn and you too if you can rise above them and knock your own flag into the ground in what ever area you choose.
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Same thing happened to Froch... early in his Career the BBC did a best thing since sliced bread campain and Froch made alot of bold claims with only a few fights under his belt... this rightly so pisses people off.
sadly for Froch he didn't have the race card to play :rolleyes:
But you know the idiots only blame whites for racism. So should every white boxer that is hated play the race card and say non-whites only hate him because he is white?
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I find it odd saying this, but I think it's true. Imo, the number 1 reason why Khan is being hated is because of his ancestry background.
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I find it odd saying this, but I think it's true. Imo, the number 1 reason why Khan is being hated is because of his ancestry background.
Well I can't stand Khan for most of the reasons mentioned here, yet I was a massive fan of Naz who went on about his religion and where he was from all the time yet he had a huge fanbase.
I think you will find that where his parents were from/his religion/skin colour etc... have absolutely nothing at all to do with why boxing fans don't like him.
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I hate Khan for a number of reasons and race doesn't come into it. I dislike him because a) He talks so much crap it's unbeliavable b) People must pay PPV to watch him fight bums c) The Barrera fight was a HUGE farce and a con job on a legend d) Getting a shot at a title at 140 on the basis of what?
The guy is a fraud and people keep shelling out to watch him. He was lucky to get Barrera on his resume and he does not deserve a shot at a belt at 140.
I hope he gets sparked again and sooner rather than later.
He could be blue, green, pink or coloured like a rainbow. It doesn't matter. I just don't like him.
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Its a shame :bag: but Anthony Mundine is a big mouth too and draws all kinds of hatred.
He originally thought to copy the footsteps of his hero the Great Muhammad Ali by being outspoken for Islam.
People hate him cause he spouts off over anything and some of his native Aboriginal brothers pull the race card out over other fans hatred of him as well, so its not limited to just Kahn.
They are right in some instances though ;
We don't need those kinds near mainstream boxing yelling racial insults etc they need to be hurled out as fast as if they threw cans at the fighter (which they also did to Mundine once after he beat Sam Soliman in their second fight).
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I hate Khan for a number of reasons and race doesn't come into it. I dislike him because a) He talks so much crap it's unbeliavable b) People must pay PPV to watch him fight bums c) The Barrera fight was a HUGE farce and a con job on a legend d) Getting a shot at a title at 140 on the basis of what?
The guy is a fraud and people keep shelling out to watch him. He was lucky to get Barrera on his resume and he does not deserve a shot at a belt at 140.
I hope he gets sparked again and sooner rather than later.
He could be blue, green, pink or coloured like a rainbow. It doesn't matter. I just don't like him.
Well, I think I've not read the same stuff as you as I've seen nowhere where he opened his mouth that much to deserve crap, he's miles and miles and miles behind PRince Naseem, Tarver, Roy Jones Mayweather etc in matter of talking crap, he doesn't even come close to Haye, matter of fact. As for the Barrera fight, it is not exactly his fault if the fight did end up this way so I do not see no reasons here neither to hate him, it's not like if he would have said: "well, let's clash up head with Barrera and end up this fight in controversy to make sure nobody will give me the credit I deserve". As for a Fraud, he's still a silver medalist, that should show that the kid has at least some talent somewhere though it doesn't automatically make him a world champion.
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First let me say, that article was garbage. About as garbage as you can get. I'm sure there were people on internet forums calling Obama the N word after he won his election but that means essentially nothing and regardless of what message board they were on, Eastside, Doghouse or any of them, if they said something like that then they were most likely banned.
From everything I have seen of Khan in the US media and what I read on here, I don't see any reason not to like him. He seems like a good enough guy, I really don't know much more then that about him.
I'm not a Khan fan, but not because of his race and I don't think anyone really thinks that way, even in their subconscious because when it comes to athletes, I'd like to think that race finds a way to not matter. Look at Tiger Woods who has the entire golf world on his side as a black man, because he plays the game right and he conducts himself accordingly. That's golf, an all white sport.
People slag off Khan the same reason people slag off De La Hoya and JCC Jr. When boxing fans hear a whole lot about something that isn't all that relevant, or they see attention going to perhaps where it isn't so much deserved, then they start generating reasons to dislike a guy. When people see so much being poured into Khan and have to watch him on PPV to pretend it's a big deal to see him spark a guy who means nothing to the division, then it is going to irk them. That's the reason for it, not race so come off it. We're not talking about Hurricane Katrina, it's boxing.
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I'm glad somebody else has noticed it.
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First let me say, that article was garbage. About as garbage as you can get. I'm sure there were people on internet forums calling Obama the N word after he won his election but that means essentially nothing and regardless of what message board they were on, Eastside, Doghouse or any of them, if they said something like that then they were most likely banned.
From everything I have seen of Khan in the US media and what I read on here, I don't see any reason not to like him. He seems like a good enough guy, I really don't know much more then that about him.
I'm not a Khan fan, but not because of his race and I don't think anyone really thinks that way, even in their subconscious because when it comes to athletes, I'd like to think that race finds a way to not matter. Look at Tiger Woods who has the entire golf world on his side as a black man, because he plays the game right and he conducts himself accordingly. That's golf, an all white sport.
People slag off Khan the same reason people slag off De La Hoya and JCC Jr. When boxing fans hear a whole lot about something that isn't all that relevant, or they see attention going to perhaps where it isn't so much deserved, then they start generating reasons to dislike a guy. When people see so much being poured into Khan and have to watch him on PPV to pretend it's a big deal to see him spark a guy who means nothing to the division, then it is going to irk them. That's the reason for it, not race so come off it. We're not talking about Hurricane Katrina, it's boxing.
Naive Amat. Altho to be fair it probably is harder to imagine when you're not living in britain. Let me explain....
In Britain the media always highlight a crisis and they like to sensationalise news to sell papers. Happens everywhere i'd imagine.
At the minute i believe there is a lot of confusion amongst idiotic brits which imo leads to 'all brown people' being the same. It's the media's fault.
First off there is Help for heroes campaign which is designed to aid soldiers who are injured 'at war.' A decent campaign it seems, but then the media really like to push the heroes slant down your throats. To some people it may seem insensitive seen as though they may have had innocent family killed in Iraq (not going to go into the bullshit reasons for us and you going into Iraq in here - but the fact is we went in looking for WMD, killed almost 1million Iraq natives, and didn't find a single thing). Obviously when something like that happens some people are going to be pissed off. So some 'brown people' protested at the Heroes March, and the media had a field day. Avergage Joe picks up the paper the following day to read about 'how sick muslim extremists' boo'd 'our boys.' Average Joe is angry at this because the media tell him to be. I'm not saying the booing is right, but you can understand why not everyone is down with calling 'our boys' heroes.
Another story was in the Daily Star and it was reporting on the Mumbai Killings where some Brits had been executed. On the front page it had a picture of a Muslim, with the headline 'Gloating Bastard' - 'Sick Muslim Extremist Gloats over Brit deaths'
When i turned over to read the rest of the story i was literally gobsmacked. All the guy had said was something along the lines of 'Mumbai at the minute is a dangerous place, i certainly wouldn't like to be there and i wouldn't advise any Brits to go there in the near future'
Avergae Joe reads the headline, shows it to his mate, he tells his family. Result is the same: it creates an us and them mentality which is not what britain is supposed to be about.
There are plenty more examples. I remember one example of when the stabbings in London we're all over the papers. One day there was a headline about a black guy stabbings somebody and it was actually covered on about 6 or 7 pages. Then somewhere in the middle of the paper was a story about a white man stabbing somebody. Didn't even get it's own page - just a column.
Sorry to bring this up and i certainly don't think all members of the board are the average Joe's who need the media to give them their opinion on something. I just had to say it because i honestly believe it's a massive problem. I've said before that i've been disgusted to hear comments aimed at Khan and at Naz both from internet boards and from generally talking to people out and about. I'm not saying racism is the only factor and on this board i don't imagine it to be a factor at all, but i am saying that the media have an awful lot to answer to. They are creating huge problems which are strengthening the divide between 'us and them'
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Fucks sake!!! Who takes any notice of the Daily Star? ;D
Ziggy Shah's article is nothing but predictable, lazy crap. Surely written by a teenager and definite casual boxing follower.
Shock horror there are racists that boo Khan. :rolleyes: The good thing is, Khan never seems in the slighest bit bothered by these apparent hordes of racists harassing him. Probably because the Khan FANS far outweigh the racists.
Oh yeah.. and if a guy that got knocked out in 55 seconds, by a fellow prospect, goes on to become "Britain's greatest ever fighter" it will be beyond a miracle of biblical proportions. Fact.
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I hate Khan for a number of reasons and race doesn't come into it. I dislike him because a) He talks so much crap it's unbeliavable b) People must pay PPV to watch him fight bums c) The Barrera fight was a HUGE farce and a con job on a legend d) Getting a shot at a title at 140 on the basis of what?
The guy is a fraud and people keep shelling out to watch him. He was lucky to get Barrera on his resume and he does not deserve a shot at a belt at 140.
I hope he gets sparked again and sooner rather than later.
He could be blue, green, pink or coloured like a rainbow. It doesn't matter. I just don't like him.
Well, I think I've not read the same stuff as you as I've seen nowhere where he opened his mouth that much to deserve crap, he's miles and miles and miles behind PRince Naseem, Tarver, Roy Jones Mayweather etc in matter of talking crap, he doesn't even come close to Haye, matter of fact. As for the Barrera fight, it is not exactly his fault if the fight did end up this way so I do not see no reasons here neither to hate him, it's not like if he would have said: "well, let's clash up head with Barrera and end up this fight in controversy to make sure nobody will give me the credit I deserve". As for a Fraud, he's still a silver medalist, that should show that the kid has at least some talent somewhere though it doesn't automatically make him a world champion.
I seem to read a lot of rubbish with his name attached, though it has been pointed out than on occasion it is reporters twisting things. This latest stuff about Roach turning him into a P4P fighter within two years is the latest one to get me. He hasn't even won a title yet and here he is blathering about P4P stuff. He said Kotelnik was a rubbish champion and next thing he is fighting him and making an about face. Seems like a bit of a muppet IMO. Rather stupid and gets taken in rather easily. Now some of those other fighters can talk some drivel but they proved they can talk it AND walk it. Khan has proven nothing to me yet. Getting rocked repeatedly by tiny little men. :-\
I hate the way people who know nothing about boxing will pay to watch him fight. The only fight worth paying for was Barrera and that was largely on the back of Barrera's name, the legend that he is. It is a big con.
The Barrera fight upset me largely because I am a huge Barrera fan. Khan didn't do it on purpose, but the nature of the fight left a very sour taste. And Khan was very lucky to get away with it. It should have been a NC after two. What happened to Don Kings protest? It's all quietly gone away. Typical. :rolleyes:
Khan did pretty well in the amateurs. No doubt about it. But his form has been patchy as a pro and it really has been classic Warren match making except for the Prescott debacle. And now going up to 140 just because there isn't a meaningful fight at 135 that he can win.
I'm just not sold on him at all. I don't like these Olympic fighters that go pro and have all the opportunities handed on a plate. That DeGale muppet is another one. I hope he falls on his face too. :p;D
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I hate Khan for a number of reasons and race doesn't come into it. I dislike him because a) He talks so much crap it's unbeliavable b) People must pay PPV to watch him fight bums c) The Barrera fight was a HUGE farce and a con job on a legend d) Getting a shot at a title at 140 on the basis of what?
The guy is a fraud and people keep shelling out to watch him. He was lucky to get Barrera on his resume and he does not deserve a shot at a belt at 140.
I hope he gets sparked again and sooner rather than later.
He could be blue, green, pink or coloured like a rainbow. It doesn't matter. I just don't like him.
Well, I think I've not read the same stuff as you as I've seen nowhere where he opened his mouth that much to deserve crap, he's miles and miles and miles behind PRince Naseem, Tarver, Roy Jones Mayweather etc in matter of talking crap, he doesn't even come close to Haye, matter of fact. As for the Barrera fight, it is not exactly his fault if the fight did end up this way so I do not see no reasons here neither to hate him, it's not like if he would have said: "well, let's clash up head with Barrera and end up this fight in controversy to make sure nobody will give me the credit I deserve". As for a Fraud, he's still a silver medalist, that should show that the kid has at least some talent somewhere though it doesn't automatically make him a world champion.
I seem to read a lot of rubbish with his name attached, though it has been pointed out than on occasion it is reporters twisting things. This latest stuff about Roach turning him into a P4P fighter within two years is the latest one to get me. He hasn't even won a title yet and here he is blathering about P4P stuff. He said Kotelnik was a rubbish champion and next thing he is fighting him and making an about face. Seems like a bit of a muppet IMO. Rather stupid and gets taken in rather easily. Now some of those other fighters can talk some drivel but they proved they can talk it AND walk it. Khan has proven nothing to me yet. Getting rocked repeatedly by tiny little men. :-\
I hate the way people who know nothing about boxing will pay to watch him fight. The only fight worth paying for was Barrera and that was largely on the back of Barrera's name, the legend that he is. It is a big con.
The Barrera fight upset me largely because I am a huge Barrera fan. Khan didn't do it on purpose, but the nature of the fight left a very sour taste. And Khan was very lucky to get away with it. It should have been a NC after two. What happened to Don Kings protest? It's all quietly gone away. Typical. :rolleyes:
Khan did pretty well in the amateurs. No doubt about it. But his form has been patchy as a pro and it really has been classic Warren match making except for the Prescott debacle. And now going up to 140 just because there isn't a meaningful fight at 135 that he can win.
I'm just not sold on him at all. I don't like these Olympic fighters that go pro and have all the opportunities handed on a plate. That DeGale muppet is another one. I hope he falls on his face too. :p;D
Exactly Miles, people wonder why he is so hated, and he does it again " Roach said id be p4p number by the time im 24!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!"
Please Amir actully do something like beat a half decent world class fighter before spouting your mouth off, hes a tool, the guy needs to be reeled in and reminded he has beat no one and has been knocked down 4/5 times in his career all ready put to sleep and has fought no one in the top 10 of any division, but typical Kahn instead of getting on with his business now says he will be p4p number 1 in 2 years.
Grade A Wanker ;)
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Khan gets hated because he is seriously overhyped and because of his level of competition.
I was never impressed with his victory over Barrera who was clearly way past it any way but Khan still didn't win it fairly.
I found it a bit of a coincedence that the fight was stopped after 5 rounds, which would mean it would go to the cards and Khan was clearly ahead on the cards The thing is the cut was no different in the 1st than it was in the 5th. I feel that if Barrera was able to keep those early rounds competitive that fight would of continued.
Another funny thing is the Kotelnik thing. Khan said Kotelnik is currently the worst champion on all divisions. The next thing you know His first title shot is against Kotelnik and supposedly Kotelnik has become a great fighter. :rolleyes:
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I hate Amir Kahn, but it's got nothing to do with his ancestry and a lot to do with the FACT that he's overhyped and completely underserving of all the attention he has drawn.
So Kahn won the Silver Medal at the Olympics but hell there have been any number of fighters who won Gold (Audley Harrison for one) that never did jack shit and there have been plenty of fighters without a lot of amateur experience (Julio Cesar Chavez Sr.) who have gone out and done great things.
Amir Kahn is a punk and I can't wait to see him KO'd again
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Khan gets hated because he is seriously overhyped and because of his level of competition.
I was never impressed with his victory over Barrera who was clearly way past it any way but Khan still didn't win it fairly.
I found it a bit of a coincedence that the fight was stopped after 5 rounds, which would mean it would go to the cards and Khan was clearly ahead on the cards The thing is the cut was no different in the 1st than it was in the 5th. I feel that if Barrera was able to keep those early rounds competitive that fight would of continued.
Another funny thing is the Kotelnik thing. Khan said Kotelnik is currently the worst champion on all divisions. The next thing you know His first title shot is against Kotelnik and supposedly Kotelnik has become a great fighter. :rolleyes:
Didn't win it fairly? Why? because of the headbutt cut in Barerras eye?
Do you want to take away Morales's first win against Pacquiao too? The way people monopolize Khan to a situation is pretty funny. They act like he is the only guy to go through a fight with a headbutt cut and I'm pretty sure he is the only one who has all credit taken away from him because of it more so from the hate that no one wants to give him credit nor believe that he was actually good enough to beat Barerra, all expected Barerra to spark him out of there and it didn't happen so they grasp whatever they can and they nit pick every little thing. Khan can't say anything without putting a negative spin on it. Khan says what ROACH tells him and people blame Khan like he was the one saying it. He says "Roach said i will be p4p by the time im 24" Why are you blaming Khan for repeating what Roach says? It's laughable nitpickiness that goes for his hate. Boxing "fans" need to realise that Khan has nothing to do with how much or how he was hyped. He did something after he lost, he went and got a new trainer and tried to fix his mistakes yet he gets no credit for it whatsoever, Hatton loses and doesn't change a damn thing and no one complains until after he loses a second time, you can say Hatton has proved himself so deserves that kind of excuse but they haven't even LET Khan have a chance to prove himself, he fights the fight of his life against Barerra and wins and people try to find anything to take away from him. It's very juvenile but its what boxing fans can be with someone they don't like. Khan could knock out Pacquiao tomorrow and would still get no credit.
Now I could be as nitpicky as them and say that they are pissed because Khan did better in sparring against Pacquiao then Hatton managed in an entire fight, but I think Hatton's been through enough :)
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Anyone who can get to and fight at 1% body fat gets my respect.
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Isn't Haye a Cyprus dessent? Imo, he's 3x more arrogant than Khan.
If there's one sentence that describes Khan why he should be hated, what would it be?
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I don't like Khan - hate? no.
The reasons I don't like Khan.
1) Typical Warren (prizefighter - not boxer).
Khan's never ever matched against boxers who will trouble him. His last fight was against a bloke in his mid 30s way over the hill. This is the standard Warrenesque bullshit that surrounds boxing unfortunately.
Why didn't Khan go down the route of British title, European title? Because he'd get his arse kicked.
2) Hype -
Hype is bullshit and I'm not a fan of bullshit. Khan is again - a Warrenesque package product. Hyped up beyond belief. Khan is already a pay per view fighter - I mean ffs. This is beyond a sick joke. I've only seen one fight where he doesn't drop his right hand massively when he throws his left. To pay £15 to watch Khan fight is disgusting imo.
I could mention the car crash thing - but whilst I never would condone injuring pedestrians acting like a cock - it's not the reason why I don't like Khan.
1 and 2 are enough for me.
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Isn't Haye a Cyprus dessent? Imo, he's 3x more arrogant than Khan.
If there's one sentence that describes Khan why he should be hated, what would it be?
arrogant? nah.
Haye just believes in himself - what's wrong with that as a boxer?
I've met him before and we talked about the Enzo Mac fight - again Enzo fits into the bullshit Warren - over hyped boxer category.
Haye rightly said that Enzo Mac wasn't in his class. A lot of people saw this wrongly as a 50/50 fight.
Haye destroyed him. Haye wants to fight the top boxers, that to me should be applauded.