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just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
notice a lot of things this time around, Ricky fought a very dumb first round, and Manny was a lot more composed in the first, Ricky fought a better round in the 2nd and did use the jab a bit, someone had said that Ricky didn't rock him and he stepped on his foot, watched that point over 10 times and don't see it, it was a solid impact shot and Manny was rocked a bit, also the way he reacts afterwards leads you to believe that as well, he got careless and stumbles (not so much from the shot) into the ropes, he gets his composure back and circles out, then did something i didn't like at all really, he does a half clinch but is far enough that he could whack Ricky with uppers, didn't like that at all really and he does it in other fights as well, but in his defense Hatton did throw some shots at the back of the head, all in all a good win for Manny, the way Hatton hit the canvass reminded me a bit of Jones Vs Johnson, nasty impact
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
Two things. Manny took his opponent's punches well last May 2nd. And I wish I could say the same thing with Hatton.
Hatton was outclassed in every department - plain and simple. We're gonna see similar thing with Wlad-Haye.
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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Dr. Steelhammer
Two things. Manny took his opponent's punches well last May 2nd. And I wish I could say the same thing with Hatton.
Hatton was outclassed in every department - plain and simple. We're gonna see similar thing with Wlad-Haye.
Manny took them well in the fact that he recouperated, no denying he felt the left hook and was rocked by it, i'm not saying he was seriously hurt, cause he wasn't but he was rocked, it shouldn't be any surprise either, Larios rocked the shit out of Pacquiao and he's a Super Bantamweight at most, and anyone would have gone down at the last shot, i'm not favoring anyone in Wlad-Haye, IMO Klitschko's gonna win and easy, but i could give a fuck less who wins, same thing that was going on for the Hatton-Pacquiao fight
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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Dr. Steelhammer
Two things. Manny took his opponent's punches well last May 2nd. And I wish I could say the same thing with Hatton.
Hatton was outclassed in every department - plain and simple. We're gonna see similar thing with Wlad-Haye.
Manny took them well in the fact that he recouperated, no denying he felt the left hook and was rocked by it, i'm not saying he was seriously hurt, cause he wasn't but he was rocked, it shouldn't be any surprise either, Larios rocked the shit out of Pacquiao and he's a Super Bantamweight at most, and anyone would have gone down at the last shot, i'm not favoring anyone in Wlad-Haye, IMO Klitschko's gonna win and easy, but i could give a fuck less who wins, same thing that was going on for the Hatton-Pacquiao fight
Yeah. Larios rocked Pac in 3rd round. But Pac knocked him down TWICE and won a wide decision. The Pac-Hatton fight proved a lot of things. The one thing that I should highlight in that event is... PAC CAN TAKE A PUNCH FROM A NATURALLY BIGGER GUY (152 lbs).
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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ElTerribleMorales
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Dr. Steelhammer
Two things. Manny took his opponent's punches well last May 2nd. And I wish I could say the same thing with Hatton.
Hatton was outclassed in every department - plain and simple. We're gonna see similar thing with Wlad-Haye.
Manny took them well in the fact that he recouperated, no denying he felt the left hook and was rocked by it, i'm not saying he was seriously hurt, cause he wasn't but he was rocked, it shouldn't be any surprise either, Larios rocked the shit out of Pacquiao and he's a Super Bantamweight at most, and anyone would have gone down at the last shot, i'm not favoring anyone in Wlad-Haye, IMO Klitschko's gonna win and easy, but i could give a fuck less who wins, same thing that was going on for the Hatton-Pacquiao fight
Yeah. Larios rocked Pac in 3rd round. But Pac knocked him down TWICE and won a wide decision. The Pac-Hatton fight proved a lot of things. The one thing that I should highlight in that event is... PAC CAN TAKE A PUNCH FROM A NATURALLY BIGGER GUY (152 lbs).
did i dispute the fact that Pac beat Larios? no, he could have KO'd him the same round, doesn't change the fact that his chin got checked and he get rocked by Larios
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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Manny took them well in the fact that he recouperated, no denying he felt the left hook and was rocked by it, i'm not saying he was seriously hurt, cause he wasn't but he was rocked, it shouldn't be any surprise either, Larios rocked the shit out of Pacquiao and he's a Super Bantamweight at most, and anyone would have gone down at the last shot, i'm not favoring anyone in Wlad-Haye, IMO Klitschko's gonna win and easy, but i could give a fuck less who wins, same thing that was going on for the Hatton-Pacquiao fight
Yeah. Larios rocked Pac in 3rd round. But Pac knocked him down TWICE and won a wide decision. The Pac-Hatton fight proved a lot of things. The one thing that I should highlight in that event is... PAC CAN TAKE A PUNCH FROM A NATURALLY BIGGER GUY (152 lbs).
did i dispute the fact that Pac beat Larios? no, he could have KO'd him the same round, doesn't change the fact that his chin got checked and he get rocked by Larios
I can make the same case with Cotto then... when he fought Torres. Heck, even pillowhands Malinaggi rocked him in the 11th.
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Yeah. Larios rocked Pac in 3rd round. But Pac knocked him down TWICE and won a wide decision. The Pac-Hatton fight proved a lot of things. The one thing that I should highlight in that event is... PAC CAN TAKE A PUNCH FROM A NATURALLY BIGGER GUY (152 lbs).
did i dispute the fact that Pac beat Larios? no, he could have KO'd him the same round, doesn't change the fact that his chin got checked and he get rocked by Larios
I can make the same case with Cotto then... when he fought Torres. Heck, even pillowhands Malinaggi rocked him in the 11th.
the difference with Cotto is he was killing himself to make weight at 140 against a natural 140 lb fighter, not like Manny who was still comfortably making 130 and getting rocked by a guy who had jumped up from 122 lbs, Torres is considered one of the hardest hitters in his weight class so no, not really the same thing
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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ElTerribleMorales
notice a lot of things this time around, Ricky fought a very dumb first round, and Manny was a lot more composed in the first, Ricky fought a better round in the 2nd and did use the jab a bit, someone had said that Ricky didn't rock him and he stepped on his foot, watched that point over 10 times and don't see it, it was a solid impact shot and Manny was rocked a bit, also the way he reacts afterwards leads you to believe that as well, he got careless and stumbles (not so much from the shot) into the ropes, he gets his composure back and circles out, then did something i didn't like at all really, he does a half clinch but is far enough that he could whack Ricky with uppers, didn't like that at all really and he does it in other fights as well, but in his defense Hatton did throw some shots at the back of the head, all in all a good win for Manny, the way Hatton hit the canvass reminded me a bit of Jones Vs Johnson, nasty impact
Hatton was garbage. I didn't see one legal punch that he landed clearly.
Hatton was so wide open, it was embarrasing. Head movement? I saw it once in round two. Defence? I saw it once in round two. His head was static for around 90% of the fight. What was he thinking of? I can only assume he thought, "I can take his punches, I'm just going to walk through them".
Ridiculously bad tactics.
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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ElTerribleMorales
notice a lot of things this time around, Ricky fought a very dumb first round, and Manny was a lot more composed in the first, Ricky fought a better round in the 2nd and did use the jab a bit, someone had said that Ricky didn't rock him and he stepped on his foot, watched that point over 10 times and don't see it, it was a solid impact shot and Manny was rocked a bit, also the way he reacts afterwards leads you to believe that as well, he got careless and stumbles (not so much from the shot) into the ropes, he gets his composure back and circles out, then did something i didn't like at all really, he does a half clinch but is far enough that he could whack Ricky with uppers, didn't like that at all really and he does it in other fights as well, but in his defense Hatton did throw some shots at the back of the head, all in all a good win for Manny, the way Hatton hit the canvass reminded me a bit of Jones Vs Johnson, nasty impact
Hatton was garbage. I didn't see one legal punch that he landed clearly.
Hatton was so wide open, it was embarrasing. Head movement? I saw it once in round two. Defence? I saw it once in round two. His head was static for around 90% of the fight. What was he thinking of? I can only assume he thought, "I can take his punches, I'm just going to walk through them".
Ridiculously bad tactics.
agreed, Ricky fought a horrible fight, but he did land a very nice short left hook on the inside, aside from that it was all Pacquiao
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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Dr. Steelhammer
Two things. Manny took his opponent's punches well last May 2nd. And I wish I could say the same thing with Hatton.
Hatton was outclassed in every department - plain and simple. We're gonna see similar thing with Wlad-Haye.
So you keep saying...
again and again...
in every single thread...
whether it is related at all to Wlad or not.
You're like a typical Pac Nut Hugger... the good thing is that there's only one of you though...
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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ElTerribleMorales
notice a lot of things this time around, Ricky fought a very dumb first round, and Manny was a lot more composed in the first, Ricky fought a better round in the 2nd and did use the jab a bit, someone had said that Ricky didn't rock him and he stepped on his foot, watched that point over 10 times and don't see it, it was a solid impact shot and Manny was rocked a bit, also the way he reacts afterwards leads you to believe that as well, he got careless and stumbles (not so much from the shot) into the ropes, he gets his composure back and circles out, then did something i didn't like at all really, he does a half clinch but is far enough that he could whack Ricky with uppers, didn't like that at all really and he does it in other fights as well, but in his defense Hatton did throw some shots at the back of the head, all in all a good win for Manny, the way Hatton hit the canvass reminded me a bit of Jones Vs Johnson, nasty impact
When the hell was Pacquiao rocked? I don't know what fight you were watching, Pacquiao was rocked in round 2 against Marquez or against Oscar Larios, but not against Hatton.
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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The Rela
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ElTerribleMorales
notice a lot of things this time around, Ricky fought a very dumb first round, and Manny was a lot more composed in the first, Ricky fought a better round in the 2nd and did use the jab a bit, someone had said that Ricky didn't rock him and he stepped on his foot, watched that point over 10 times and don't see it, it was a solid impact shot and Manny was rocked a bit, also the way he reacts afterwards leads you to believe that as well, he got careless and stumbles (not so much from the shot) into the ropes, he gets his composure back and circles out, then did something i didn't like at all really, he does a half clinch but is far enough that he could whack Ricky with uppers, didn't like that at all really and he does it in other fights as well, but in his defense Hatton did throw some shots at the back of the head, all in all a good win for Manny, the way Hatton hit the canvass reminded me a bit of Jones Vs Johnson, nasty impact
Hatton was garbage. I didn't see one legal punch that he landed clearly.
Hatton was so wide open, it was embarrasing. Head movement? I saw it once in round two. Defence? I saw it once in round two. His head was static for around 90% of the fight. What was he thinking of? I can only assume he thought, "I can take his punches, I'm just going to walk through them".
Ridiculously bad tactics.
agreed, Ricky fought a horrible fight, but he did land a very nice short left hook on the inside, aside from that it was all Pacquiao
There is nothing Ricky could have done to win the fight, he just doesn't bring enough to the table.
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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The Rela
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ElTerribleMorales
notice a lot of things this time around, Ricky fought a very dumb first round, and Manny was a lot more composed in the first, Ricky fought a better round in the 2nd and did use the jab a bit, someone had said that Ricky didn't rock him and he stepped on his foot, watched that point over 10 times and don't see it, it was a solid impact shot and Manny was rocked a bit, also the way he reacts afterwards leads you to believe that as well, he got careless and stumbles (not so much from the shot) into the ropes, he gets his composure back and circles out, then did something i didn't like at all really, he does a half clinch but is far enough that he could whack Ricky with uppers, didn't like that at all really and he does it in other fights as well, but in his defense Hatton did throw some shots at the back of the head, all in all a good win for Manny, the way Hatton hit the canvass reminded me a bit of Jones Vs Johnson, nasty impact
Hatton was garbage. I didn't see one legal punch that he landed clearly.
Hatton was so wide open, it was embarrasing. Head movement? I saw it once in round two. Defence? I saw it once in round two. His head was static for around 90% of the fight. What was he thinking of? I can only assume he thought, "I can take his punches, I'm just going to walk through them".
Ridiculously bad tactics.
It was shockingly poor on Hattons part. Manny deserves credit because he went out there and performed as he should. We can't really say the same of Hatton. A shame really. :-\
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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Dr. Steelhammer
Two things. Manny took his opponent's punches well last May 2nd. And I wish I could say the same thing with Hatton.
Hatton was outclassed in every department - plain and simple. We're gonna see similar thing with Wlad-Haye.
So you keep saying...
again and again...
in every single thread...
whether it is related at all to Wlad or not.
You're like a typical Pac Nut Hugger...
the good thing is that there's only one of you though...
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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ElTerribleMorales
notice a lot of things this time around, Ricky fought a very dumb first round, and Manny was a lot more composed in the first, Ricky fought a better round in the 2nd and did use the jab a bit, someone had said that Ricky didn't rock him and he stepped on his foot, watched that point over 10 times and don't see it, it was a solid impact shot and Manny was rocked a bit, also the way he reacts afterwards leads you to believe that as well, he got careless and stumbles (not so much from the shot) into the ropes, he gets his composure back and circles out, then did something i didn't like at all really, he does a half clinch but is far enough that he could whack Ricky with uppers, didn't like that at all really and he does it in other fights as well, but in his defense Hatton did throw some shots at the back of the head, all in all a good win for Manny, the way Hatton hit the canvass reminded me a bit of Jones Vs Johnson, nasty impact
Hatton was garbage. I didn't see one legal punch that he landed clearly.
Hatton was so wide open, it was embarrasing. Head movement? I saw it once in round two. Defence? I saw it once in round two. His head was static for around 90% of the fight. What was he thinking of? I can only assume he thought, "I can take his punches, I'm just going to walk through them".
Ridiculously bad tactics.
It was shockingly poor on Hattons part. Manny deserves credit because he went out there and performed as he should. We can't really say the same of Hatton. A shame really. :-\
Still completely gobsmacked about how tactically naive hatton was and how he did every possible thing he could do wrong to lose it.
I suspect once you got caught flush on with an overhand right 30 seconds in you instantly go into survival mode for the rest of the round. But after a good minute to recover he just went back to the same old tactics of lunging in and getting tagged on EVERY single occasion.
Spent 3 months telling everyone how as long as hatton got through the 1st 4 rounds he`d win it. Within 30 seconds i knew straight off the bat that wasnt going to happen!!!
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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ElTerribleMorales
notice a lot of things this time around, Ricky fought a very dumb first round, and Manny was a lot more composed in the first, Ricky fought a better round in the 2nd and did use the jab a bit, someone had said that Ricky didn't rock him and he stepped on his foot, watched that point over 10 times and don't see it, it was a solid impact shot and Manny was rocked a bit, also the way he reacts afterwards leads you to believe that as well, he got careless and stumbles (not so much from the shot) into the ropes, he gets his composure back and circles out, then did something i didn't like at all really, he does a half clinch but is far enough that he could whack Ricky with uppers, didn't like that at all really and he does it in other fights as well, but in his defense Hatton did throw some shots at the back of the head, all in all a good win for Manny, the way Hatton hit the canvass reminded me a bit of Jones Vs Johnson, nasty impact
When the hell was Pacquiao rocked? I don't know what fight you were watching, Pacquiao was rocked in round 2 against Marquez or against Oscar Larios, but not against Hatton.
Pacquiao was rocked by a short left hook in the second round, and funny how i'm not the only one saying it, it's not like i'm saying that Hatton hurt him so bad that Manny was in any type of danger, but he did stagger him, by the way Larios rocked Manny in the 3rd, and Marquez in the 6th (first fight)
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Hatton was garbage. I didn't see one legal punch that he landed clearly.
Hatton was so wide open, it was embarrasing. Head movement? I saw it once in round two. Defence? I saw it once in round two. His head was static for around 90% of the fight. What was he thinking of? I can only assume he thought, "I can take his punches, I'm just going to walk through them".
Ridiculously bad tactics.
agreed, Ricky fought a horrible fight, but he did land a very nice short left hook on the inside, aside from that it was all Pacquiao
There is nothing Ricky could have done to win the fight, he just doesn't bring enough to the table.
saying Hatton brings nothing to the table basically discredit's Manny's win, it's not lessening Pacquiao's performance by saying that Hatton fought a shit fight, and it's the damned truth, no denying it, Manny fought the fight he was supposed to, that's the difference
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ElTerribleMorales
notice a lot of things this time around, Ricky fought a very dumb first round, and Manny was a lot more composed in the first, Ricky fought a better round in the 2nd and did use the jab a bit, someone had said that Ricky didn't rock him and he stepped on his foot, watched that point over 10 times and don't see it, it was a solid impact shot and Manny was rocked a bit, also the way he reacts afterwards leads you to believe that as well, he got careless and stumbles (not so much from the shot) into the ropes, he gets his composure back and circles out, then did something i didn't like at all really, he does a half clinch but is far enough that he could whack Ricky with uppers, didn't like that at all really and he does it in other fights as well, but in his defense Hatton did throw some shots at the back of the head, all in all a good win for Manny, the way Hatton hit the canvass reminded me a bit of Jones Vs Johnson, nasty impact
Hatton was garbage. I didn't see one legal punch that he landed clearly.
Hatton was so wide open, it was embarrasing. Head movement? I saw it once in round two. Defence? I saw it once in round two. His head was static for around 90% of the fight. What was he thinking of? I can only assume he thought, "I can take his punches, I'm just going to walk through them".
Ridiculously bad tactics.
It was shockingly poor on Hattons part. Manny deserves credit because he went out there and performed as he should. We can't really say the same of Hatton. A shame really. :-\
exactly what i'm saying, people think all of a sudden if you say Hatton fought a ridiculously dumb fight that it somehow discredits Manny's win, it doesn't, it's just a fact and a part of the fight, Manny was able to perform better against a top level opponant than Hatton was, simple as that
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
larios caught pac good! you can see pac fade err black out for a split second. but so far pac has a solid chin, he took a couple of hard punches from diff opponents but not enough to say that pac has a glass chin.
hatton tagged him but that was it, all great boxers gets caught by a good punch, its boxing you get hit all the time.pac got hit and reacted quick by hitting back 10 times more.
then did something i didn't like at all really, he does a half clinch but is far enough that he could whack Ricky with uppers, didn't like that at all really and he does it in other fights as well
i think roach told him to do that whenever hatton tries to clinch and punch him. maybe just to show that pac can do the same thing to hatton.
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
Pac and his team did their homework just fine training for Pac's leaping attacks. Watch all KOs and you'll see how Pac is just waiting with eyes wide open looking for any sign that Hatton would leap-attack and KABOOM! Hatton would go down until the very last one.
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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Pac and his team did their homework just fine training for Pac's leaping attacks. Watch all KOs and you'll see how Pac is just waiting with eyes wide open looking for any sign that Hatton would leap-attack and KABOOM! Hatton would go down until the very last one.
there only was ONE KO, and i've seen all the KNOCKDOWNS various times ;D, and i'm assuming you mean Pac trained fro HATTON's leaping attacks
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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larios caught pac good! you can see pac fade err black out for a split second. but so far pac has a solid chin, he took a couple of hard punches from diff opponents but not enough to say that pac has a glass chin.
hatton tagged him but that was it, all great boxers gets caught by a good punch, its boxing you get hit all the time.pac got hit and reacted quick by hitting back 10 times more.
then did something i didn't like at all really, he does a half clinch but is far enough that he could whack Ricky with uppers, didn't like that at all really and he does it in other fights as well
i think roach told him to do that whenever hatton tries to clinch and punch him. maybe just to show that pac can do the same thing to hatton.
i'm not saying that Pacquiao has a glass chin at all, even with Hatton rocking him, that's a naturally bigger man rocking him, and i said it also that he wasn't seriously hurt or in danger or anything, and also not trying to imply that Pac was fighting dirty, just didn't like it, and he's done it before
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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Pac and his team did their homework just fine training for Pac's leaping attacks. Watch all KOs and you'll see how Pac is just waiting with eyes wide open looking for any sign that Hatton would leap-attack and KABOOM! Hatton would go down until the very last one.
there only was ONE KO, and i've seen all the KNOCKDOWNS various times ;D, and i'm assuming you mean Pac trained fro HATTON's leaping attacks
You might be right. Remember the one where Hatton goes down and falls with his hands on the mat. He telegraphed a left hook as he went forward and down he went. Then the last one going forward with a punch to Pac's body and down he went again. I'll watch the KOs again since most video sites are blocked here in the office.
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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Pac and his team did their homework just fine training for Pac's leaping attacks. Watch all KOs and you'll see how Pac is just waiting with eyes wide open looking for any sign that Hatton would leap-attack and KABOOM! Hatton would go down until the very last one.
there only was ONE KO, and i've seen all the KNOCKDOWNS various times ;D, and i'm assuming you mean Pac trained fro HATTON's leaping attacks
He trained for Hattons giveaway that he was gonna throw a left hook by pivoting and cocking it back. Something Roach touched on, so it was easy to time, whenever Hatton cocks that left back like that, he is coming the other way with a left hook, and Pacquiao knew this and caught him as a counter to it. Of course Mayweather knew it first and caught him with the check left hook for it all night ;)
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
I've watched it four times and just saw it again and still don't see where Manny was rocked.
How much time was left in the round when this happened cause I don't see it.
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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I've watched it four times and just saw it again and still don't see where Manny was rocked.
How much time was left in the round when this happened cause I don't see it.
it was midway through the round i believe, and i'm not saying that he was seriously hurt
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
All I know is Hatton had him pummpled. He was landing great shots with his face on manny's gloves.
Hatton was well ahead on the scorecards when Pac landed that cheap blow to his chin. It was a really dirty shot to make hatton look that bad. He should have boxed, and seen if pacquiao was ready to go the distance. Because Pac fizzes out after the 12th round. Hatton TKO13 if he just backed up and jabbed.
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
ErikMOrales you guys see any little stumble as somebody being badly hurt, apparently it is impossible for somebody to lose their balance without being hurt, Manny was never hurt in that fight at all. I am talking about the second Pacman-Marquez fight where in the 2nd round he landed a left hook while Pacman was off balance, but he also hurt Pacman with it.
Maybe you should actually read what I wrote. I said Hatton didn't bring ENOUGH to beat Pacquiao, not that he doesn't bring anything. That's a huge difference so don't put words in my mouth please. Also I said Oscar Larios and Marquez hurt Pacman before why are you reitterating what I said?
ALso for the people who said Hatton wasn't jabbing enough, guess what he was throwing when Manny countered him with that left hook that put him to sleep? He was jabbing, and a few times earlier in the round Manny barely missed similar counter shots or scored glancing blows.
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All I know is Hatton had him pummpled. He was landing great shots with his face on manny's gloves.
Hatton was well ahead on the scorecards when Pac landed that cheap blow to his chin. It was a really dirty shot to make hatton look that bad. He should have boxed, and seen if pacquiao was ready to go the distance. Because Pac fizzes out after the 12th round. Hatton TKO13 if he just backed up and jabbed.
;D this thread is pointless.
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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ErikMOrales you guys see any little stumble as somebody being badly hurt, apparently it is impossible for somebody to lose their balance without being hurt, Manny was never hurt in that fight at all. I am talking about the second Pacman-Marquez fight where in the 2nd round he landed a left hook while Pacman was off balance, but he also hurt Pacman with it.
Maybe you should actually read what I wrote. I said Hatton didn't bring ENOUGH to beat Pacquiao, not that he doesn't bring anything. That's a huge difference so don't put words in my mouth please. Also I said Oscar Larios and Marquez hurt Pacman before why are you reitterating what I said?
ALso for the people who said Hatton wasn't jabbing enough, guess what he was throwing when Manny countered him with that left hook that put him to sleep? He was jabbing, and a few times earlier in the round Manny barely missed similar counter shots or scored glancing blows.
and you apparently DON'T READ, I CLEARLY SAID HE WASN'T SERIOUSLY HURT, before you go crying, get your info right, Taeth = key example of a poster who if your opinion isn't the same as his, you apparently know nothing of boxing:rolleyes:
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
Hatton did not rock Pac. Pac's legs didn't buckle. He didn't even get wobbled.
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
I re-watched the fight many times and noticed it was PAC who delivered the most telling blow to the body... This one happened in the 2nd round, seconds before the BIG KO...
http://xs539.xs.to/xs539/09201/pacqu...on03_gv617.jpg
;D
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
"Pac got rocked by Hatton!"
Yepeeeeee!!! Hep hep - hurray!!!
:appl::play::lhdevil::band::club::domo-kun::dj2::cheerleader::yay2:
...pelease
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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ErikMOrales you guys see any little stumble as somebody being badly hurt, apparently it is impossible for somebody to lose their balance without being hurt, Manny was never hurt in that fight at all. I am talking about the second Pacman-Marquez fight where in the 2nd round he landed a left hook while Pacman was off balance, but he also hurt Pacman with it.
Maybe you should actually read what I wrote. I said Hatton didn't bring ENOUGH to beat Pacquiao, not that he doesn't bring anything. That's a huge difference so don't put words in my mouth please. Also I said Oscar Larios and Marquez hurt Pacman before why are you reitterating what I said?
ALso for the people who said Hatton wasn't jabbing enough, guess what he was throwing when Manny countered him with that left hook that put him to sleep? He was jabbing, and a few times earlier in the round Manny barely missed similar counter shots or scored glancing blows.
and you apparently DON'T READ, I CLEARLY SAID HE WASN'T SERIOUSLY HURT, before you go crying, get your info right, Taeth = key example of a poster who if your opinion isn't the same as his, you apparently know nothing of boxing:rolleyes:
Because your any different? You hypocrite. I am a key example of somebody who thinks if you are saying bullshit I will call you out on it, I just watched the second round several times and I can't even see a part where Hatton lands anything that looked like it even put Pacquiao off balance let alone hurt him. Tell me exactly when Pacquiao got hurt... I was reading what you wrote, but there is nothing that indicated at all that Manny was hurt by anythign in this fight.
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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All I know is Hatton had him pummpled. He was landing great shots with his face on manny's gloves.
Hatton was well ahead on the scorecards when Pac landed that cheap blow to his chin. It was a really dirty shot to make hatton look that bad. He should have boxed, and seen if pacquiao was ready to go the distance. Because Pac fizzes out after the 12th round. Hatton TKO13 if he just backed up and jabbed.
Hell yeah... Hatton was well ahead on the scorecards...
"The “punch-stats” compiled by CompuBox reflected the carnage. In round one, Pacquiao landed 35 punches compared to 8 for Hatton. In round two, the margin was 38 to 10. Manny scored with a remarkable 62 percent of his power punches, landing 65 blows in that category."
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
Pac still dominated Hatton without the KD/KO. It was a total mismatch.
Not that it matters in a lopsided result, still, statistics furnished by CompuBox further illustrated Manny Pacquiao's dominance over Ricky Hatton in its updated report.
Pacquiao threw 65 of 105 (62 percent) power punches, compared to Hatton's measly 16 of 56 (29 percent).
Per round, Pacquiao averaged 64 punches thrown to Hatton's 39.
Overall, Pacquiao tagged 73 of 127 times (57 percent), while Hatton could connect on only 18 of 78 (23 percent).
I watched the fight again too. I don't know what the TS saw. But Pac never got rocked in that fight. He took a couple of good ones from Hatton, but Pac was still overwhelming Hatton with relentless assault. Hatton didn't give Pac shakey legs. Pac wasn't the one who got disoriented.
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
It's true. Pacquiao got rocked by Hatton guys.
Check out 0:45
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6lSQGQQ_N6c
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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Taeth
ErikMOrales you guys see any little stumble as somebody being badly hurt, apparently it is impossible for somebody to lose their balance without being hurt, Manny was never hurt in that fight at all. I am talking about the second Pacman-Marquez fight where in the 2nd round he landed a left hook while Pacman was off balance, but he also hurt Pacman with it.
Maybe you should actually read what I wrote. I said Hatton didn't bring ENOUGH to beat Pacquiao, not that he doesn't bring anything. That's a huge difference so don't put words in my mouth please. Also I said Oscar Larios and Marquez hurt Pacman before why are you reitterating what I said?
ALso for the people who said Hatton wasn't jabbing enough, guess what he was throwing when Manny countered him with that left hook that put him to sleep? He was jabbing, and a few times earlier in the round Manny barely missed similar counter shots or scored glancing blows.
and you apparently DON'T READ, I CLEARLY SAID HE WASN'T SERIOUSLY HURT, before you go crying, get your info right, Taeth = key example of a poster who if your opinion isn't the same as his, you apparently know nothing of boxing:rolleyes:
Because your any different? You hypocrite. I am a key example of somebody who thinks if you are saying bullshit I will call you out on it, I just watched the second round several times and I can't even see a part where Hatton lands anything that looked like it even put Pacquiao off balance let alone hurt him. Tell me exactly when Pacquiao got hurt... I was reading what you wrote, but there is nothing that indicated at all that Manny was hurt by anythign in this fight.
hypocrite? when i believe something i stand by it, if i'm proven wrong i admit it, unlike your "righteous" ass, dude you talk on here as if your above everyone and discard what everyone says if it doesn't go with your retarded way of thinking, which is Pacquiao and Floyd are unbeatable, it's funny how i'm not the only one saying it, and i'm not a Hatton or Manny fan by anymeans, so i'm saying it with a completely un-biased opinion, you on the other hand still rant on that DLH was still a worldbeater at a weight he hadn't fought at for nearly a decade, get over yourself buddy
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
Fuck that, you are not unbiased by any means, you still haven't produced a specific instance where Manny was hurt in that fight. I don't discard shit that ICB thinks, nor does the fact that I disagree on things mean that I don't accept other peoples opinions. I don't think Floyd or Manny are unbeatable, if you read the Tszyu-Pacquiao fight I said that fight clearly favored Kostya Tszyu. However, I do believe they are as good as the legends of the past. Half the people on here think guys like Hagler walk on water, yet its considered blasphemy if I say Pacquiao and Mayweather are as good p4p because they are modern day fighters.
Apparently I also think Manny is unbeatable because I think he beats Cotto and that he beat Marquez in their second fight. Sorry, but the majority of people think Manny beat Marquez in their second fight.
And the reason I believe I am right most of the time is that 90% of the time you are arguing on here, I am actually watching the fights. When people said that Trinidad wasn't outboxed for 9 rounds, I went through every round and clearly showed Oscar landed twice as many clean punches as Trinidad going punch by punch through the fight. I don't argue as much anymore who's better comparing guys now to the past, but I do argue who won fights, and how people score rounds. Because people give rounds that make no sense to give to certain guys in fights like Marquez-Pacquiao II for example people give Marquez round 1 and 11 which should go to Pacquiao because he lands way more. Some people on here think Mayweather- OScar 115-113 or even a draw! Sorry I can't always keep my calm when I see stupidity.
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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Two things. Manny took his opponent's punches well last May 2nd. And I wish I could say the same thing with Hatton.
Hatton was outclassed in every department - plain and simple. We're gonna see similar thing with Wlad-Haye.
Manny took them well in the fact that he recouperated, no denying he felt the left hook and was rocked by it, i'm not saying he was seriously hurt, cause he wasn't but he was rocked, it shouldn't be any surprise either, Larios rocked the shit out of Pacquiao and he's a Super Bantamweight at most, and anyone would have gone down at the last shot, i'm not favoring anyone in Wlad-Haye, IMO Klitschko's gonna win and easy, but i could give a fuck less who wins, same thing that was going on for the Hatton-Pacquiao fight
Yeah. Larios rocked Pac in 3rd round. But Pac knocked him down TWICE and won a wide decision. The Pac-Hatton fight proved a lot of things. The one thing that I should highlight in that event is... PAC CAN TAKE A PUNCH FROM A NATURALLY BIGGER GUY (152 lbs).
nah...totally disagree...the last guy to hurt pac is jmm... pac wasnt been hurt lightweight onwards...
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
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larios caught pac good! you can see pac fade err black out for a split second. but so far pac has a solid chin, he took a couple of hard punches from diff opponents but not enough to say that pac has a glass chin.
hatton tagged him but that was it, all great boxers gets caught by a good punch, its boxing you get hit all the time.pac got hit and reacted quick by hitting back 10 times more.
then did something i didn't like at all really, he does a half clinch but is far enough that he could whack Ricky with uppers, didn't like that at all really and he does it in other fights as well
i think roach told him to do that whenever hatton tries to clinch and punch him. maybe just to show that pac can do the same thing to hatton.
i'm not saying that Pacquiao has a glass chin at all, even with Hatton rocking him, that's a naturally bigger man rocking him, and i said it also that he wasn't seriously hurt or in danger or anything, and also not trying to imply that Pac was fighting dirty, just didn't like it, and he's done it before
i get what ur saying bro, it was an issue here a couple of months back that pacs chin is a suspect. thats all
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Re: just re-watched Hatton vs. Pacquiao
you know if a boxer felt the punch when like pac he brings his gloves together then eggs his opponent to throw some more. or if the boxer who got punched reacted like he wasnt hurt at all clear indication that he FELT it.
on that fight pac felt hattons punches but he wasnt rocked by it.
