Parkinson's disease likely for Hatton? - ABC News article.

The knockout that Ricky Hatton suffered in the heavy hands of Manny Pacquiao was no ordinary knockout.

Because in the eyes of a medical expert, the pride of Manchester who went down cold after taking a solid left hook to the jaw showed signs of seizure while he lay motionless on the canvas.

Dr. Rolando Jeremillo Jr., an ortho surgeon and medical director of the Ambica Biotechnologies here in the Philippines, is no boxing expert. But he surely knows his way around the brutal sport.

“I’ve seen a lot of knockouts, and some big ones, too. But what Ricky Hatton suffered was a different one. It was a scary knockout,” said Jeremillo, who saw the fight live on pay-per-view.

“There are knockouts where the boxers fall hard and wobble on the way up. And there are knockouts of this kind, where the boxers, in this case Hatton, lose consciousness for a brief time.”

Based on his observation, Hatton appeared to have lost his consciousness even before he hit the blue canvas of the MGM Grand that was packed to the rafters. His eyes rolled, breathed heavily and hardly moved for some time.

“To me, it looked like a seizure right there and then,” observed Jeremillo.

No wonder Hatton’s fiancée, Jennifer Dooley, was almost hysterical at ringside, being consoled by the girlfriend of the boxer’s brother, Matthew. His parents, Ray and Carol, were also at ringside.

A seizure, according to wikipedia, can last few seconds, and are often associated with a sudden and involuntary contraction of a group of muscles and loss of consciousness.

As Pacquiao and his fans celebrated, ring physicians attended to Hatton who appeared to be in a very dangerous state.

It took a few minutes before he managed to get up.

He was later taken to the Valley Hospital in Las Vegas, underwent brain scan and few other tests before being cleared.

The day after he was at the pool area of the MGM, cooling off.

Jeremillo can only hope that the worst is over for Hatton. He said punches like that may cause Parkinson’s disease, the same one which fighters like Muhammad Ali or even Freddie Roach suffers from.

“It may come 10 or 20 years from now. But even if Hatton retires tomorrow, he just became a candidate for Parkinson’s (a disease that causes movement disorders),” said Jeremillo.


Parkinson's disease likely for Hatton? | ABS-CBN News Online Beta

Here's keeping the fingers crossed that this won't be the case.

That article strikes me as a load of old bollocks. When it said 'a seizure, according to wikipedia', I decided it couldn't be taken seriously. Ricky is as much a candidate for Parkinson's as any other boxer who's been brutally KO'd.

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That article strikes me as a load of old bollocks. When it said 'a seizure, according to wikipedia', I decided it couldn't be taken seriously. Ricky is as much a candidate for Parkinson's as any other boxer who's been brutally KO'd.

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Totally agree. The article itself is in poor taste, and the supposed doctor is clutching at straws for the sake of sensationalism. Second rate journalism really.

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That article strikes me as a load of old bollocks. When it said 'a seizure, according to wikipedia', I decided it couldn't be taken seriously. Ricky is as much a candidate for Parkinson's as any other boxer who's been brutally KO'd.

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My thoughts exactly!

Such a vague article.

retarded and plain stupid

Anyone who works in the medical proffession will tell you you dont walk about 5 minutes after suffering a seizure and you definitely dont instantanionsly become a sufferer of parkinsons disease


this guys a dick

the news source itself are fraud according to my cousins from Manila.. the most hated channel in there i think ABSCBN..

Hell the article doesn't even go into any medical detail on really what a seizure is. I am no expert except that I have had a few of them, and basically it is like a lightning storm passing through your brain and setting of nerve impulses through out your body. Hence the uncontrollable shaking one sees in a typical seizure and the incoherence shown by the person suffering one.

Basically Hatton suffered a massive concussion not a seizure.

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the news source itself are fraud according to my cousins from Manila.. the most hated channel in there i think ABSCBN..

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well ur cousin is obviously a "kapuso" slogan of gma 7 they are equivalent to pac nuthuggers. i hate to say this but gma7 vs abs2 is just a thing for class d-e people. a,b,c people watch cable. :)


i saw this doctor on TV he is just there watching the fight just for the sake of it. he commented about the KO and thats it its not like its a 30min detailed explanation of the whole thing.

whoever wrote that suffers from writers block who cant think of anything with sense to talk about.

only time will tell.

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That article strikes me as a load of old bollocks. When it said 'a seizure, according to wikipedia', I decided it couldn't be taken seriously. Ricky is as much a candidate for Parkinson's as any other boxer who's been brutally KO'd.

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There are far too many boxers who suffer from parkinson's or other chronic brain maladies, but most of them aren't in the lime light.

Sorry He is talking out of His arse, But in 20 years we will have forgotten Him and His statement. ;D

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That article strikes me as a load of old bollocks. When it said 'a seizure, according to wikipedia', I decided it couldn't be taken seriously. Ricky is as much a candidate for Parkinson's as any other boxer who's been brutally KO'd.

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Totally agree. The article itself is in poor taste, and the supposed doctor is clutching at straws for the sake of sensationalism. Second rate journalism really.

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Before I started reading this article I told myself "I wonder if it was written by someone in the Philippines or a hardcore PacFanBoy"...bingo!

What's next? We will hear news that Pac was going to open the door of his car and pulled it all off "by accident" because he's just that amazingly strong and can't control his SuperMan strength or that his house was blown away as he blew his birthday candles.:rolleyes:

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retarded and plain stupid

Anyone who works in the medical proffession will tell you you dont walk about 5 minutes after suffering a seizure and you definitely dont instantanionsly become a sufferer of parkinsons disease


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Actually you can be walking around after having a seizure, especially micro seizures.

Sorry how many of you have medical degrees? And how many of you have read extensively on neurologists studies of brain trauma? Boxing is terrible for the brain, I stil watch it because I love the sport, and these guys are making enough money IMO to compensate for the risks involved.

The article may be rubbish, but Ricky Hatton does not need boxing anymore, he has shown he was a upper level fighter who only lost to the very best of his era, what else is there to prove?

Take your millions back to Manchester Ricky, make up with Billy, and spend the rest of your life talking of your excellent achievements, whilst supping down a few Guinness'!

It ridiculous thing to even suggest. Fighters get knocked out all the time. Most more than two times in their careers. The kind of damage that causes Parkinsons, which is pretty rare in fighters to begin with, is accomulated damage usually from fighting on too long. Ive seen guys get taken out on a stretcher and most of them should retire, some fighters who had a damaging career end up with some form brain damage, but Parkinson? Rarely. Its not any more likely for Ricky than most veteran fighters.

The Article is obviously bogus!

However, my son hit his head on the tile floor, about a 5 foot fall. We thought he was ok. A day later my wife asked my to look at him and we noticed he was experiencing paralysis on the left side his face and had a slur in his speech. He was treated in the hospital fro 17 days due to his brain swelling and bleeding. (A Subdural Hematoma) Scared the hell out of me and I had to understand it. My son recovered completely but although hardly noticeable there is still a slight change in his pronunciations. Follow ups reveal a scar on his brain.

This is exactly the type of damage that can occur from most any blow to the head. Basically a seizure is what happens when brain signals don't reach where they are intended to go. While we don't know for sure if Hatton experienced a seizure or not, he certainly experienced enough impact to his brain for him to lose complete consciousness. Unless involuntary unconsciousness (KO) is another definition for a seizure.

There is not enough knowledge about the short term to long term causes and effects of brain injuries to be able to say for certain whether or not fighters will experience neurological diseases in the future from blows such as the one received by Hatton. If I were say that to a Neurologist, he'd probably say I was an idiot! ;D

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That article strikes me as a load of old bollocks. When it said 'a seizure, according to wikipedia', I decided it couldn't be taken seriously. Ricky is as much a candidate for Parkinson's as any other boxer who's been brutally KO'd.

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Exactly, what a poorly contrived piece of shit. Any article that interviews a so-called medical specialist and then uses wikipedia as a source for their information cannot be taken seriously. It sounds like Saddoboxer wrote it for fucksake.

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retarded and plain stupid

Anyone who works in the medical proffession will tell you you dont walk about 5 minutes after suffering a seizure and you definitely dont instantanionsly become a sufferer of parkinsons disease


this guys a dick

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Actually you can be walking around after having a seizure, especially micro seizures.

Sorry how many of you have medical degrees? And how many of you have read extensively on neurologists studies of brain trauma? Boxing is terrible for the brain, I stil watch it because I love the sport, and these guys are making enough money IMO to compensate for the risks involved.

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We don't need those pesky things, we can just look it up on wikipedia and instantly be as credible based on that article.

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That article strikes me as a load of old bollocks. When it said 'a seizure, according to wikipedia', I decided it couldn't be taken seriously. Ricky is as much a candidate for Parkinson's as any other boxer who's been brutally KO'd.

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Exactly, what a poorly contrived piece of shit. Any article that interviews a so-called medical specialist and then uses wikipedia as a source for their information cannot be taken seriously. It sounds like Saddoboxer wrote it for fucksake.

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this made me laugh. ;D

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That article strikes me as a load of old bollocks. When it said 'a seizure, according to wikipedia', I decided it couldn't be taken seriously. Ricky is as much a candidate for Parkinson's as any other boxer who's been brutally KO'd.

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Exactly, what a poorly contrived piece of shit. Any article that interviews a so-called medical specialist and then uses wikipedia as a source for their information cannot be taken seriously. It sounds like Saddoboxer wrote it for fucksake.

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Ohh don't say that... You know very well that most of what I wrote here becomes a reality... Pity Hatton if he will get this disease because you jinxed him...;D

As what Jaz said above, any boxer who's been brutally KO'd is a candidate for Parkinson's... It's a rare disease/occurrence but just the same, it can possibly occur to Hatton or any other boxer for that matter...:(
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What is with the mother hen threads about Ricky Hatton?

"Ricky should retire"
"What does Ricky do?"
"Is Ricky ok?"

blah blah blah

He got KO'd it's boxing, that happens...Ali never got KO'd like that and he got pugilistic onset parkinson's and if you live long enough you too will get parkinson's because that's the natural way the nerves in the brain break down. The problem occurs when it starts earlier in a person's life or progresses really fast. I'm sure by being a boxer Ricky has put himself more at risk but hell he never would have made half as much money doing anything else

anyone being in a car accident? What do you think that does to your brain? Rapid acceleration/deceleration.

What about the fun time you have at rock concerts thwacking your head about?

You can injure yourself in any number of ways, maybe we should all wear those special headguards spaza's wear in case we bump in to a lamppost and accidentally cause a brain hemorrhage.

Oh yeah, eat fibre and don't strain when you go the toilet because that can kill you to.


Lots of fighters take a beating, lots of fighters get ko'd they don't all become cabbages 10-20 years down the line.....the rest get put out to pasture talking like they've got a brain injury on programmes like sky/setenta.

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The article may be rubbish, but Ricky Hatton does not need boxing anymore, he has shown he was a upper level fighter who only lost to the very best of his era, what else is there to prove?

Take your millions back to Manchester Ricky, make up with Billy, and spend the rest of your life talking of your excellent achievements, whilst supping down a few Guinness'!

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Yeah well put mate, it's time to sit back and enjoy what he worked his arse off for in the last 12 years.

I'm a lawyer and this is slander according to wikipedia.

I though long term brain damage was caused by lots of puches over a number of years not just 1 single hard shot.


I think this sounds like sombody who likes the sound of there own voice.

SaddoBoxer,
Maybe Hatton will be ok. Pac was brutally KOed as well twice (so far) and he has been fine:rolleyes:. So let's hope its the same for Ricky.

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SaddoBoxer,
Maybe Hatton will be ok. Pac was brutally KOed as well twice (so far) and he has been fine:rolleyes:. So let's hope its the same for Ricky.

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Why address this issue to me?? :confused:

I'm not a neurologist... I don't have degree in any medical field... I'm not the thread starter... I'm not the one who jinxed Hatton...;)
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This is just stupid .Next thing you know fighters will be saying "Im gong to hit you so hard you going to give you Parkinsons".

I hope Ricky will retire and drink some beers and become a really rich fight fan. Ricky is a great guy.

Having a brother who suffers epilepsy and a couple of other shit side effects after a bad cranial trauma, I made a lot of research about parkinson, memory lapse and epilepsy caused by shots to the head and though I am not a rocket in science and neither a neuro surgeon, from what I understood across my multiples researches, the fact to get knocked out doesn't play a major role in the whole thing; what is bad are the micro tearing (or major ones if you're very unlucky on a specific occasions) that happens in your brain after repeated shots. Knocked out or not, these micro tearing happens and at some point, consequences start to point out.
For example, probably that most of Ali problems come from his sanguinary fights with Smoking Joe, he wasn't necessarily knocked out or down but the beating his brain took during these sole 3 fights is tremendous. The more you take hit to the head, the more you get a candidate for parkison and mid-long time problems. When you have a bull strategy and no defense like Hatton, Andrade or Gatti, you're an even more susceptible candidate to these things, the weight at which you fight surely can play a role too as it increases the power of the shots you're absorbing and then the damage your brain absorb.

& years getting knocked about, then going out the back window of a car traveling at 110 mile an hour.Traveling 300 metres through the air landing on my Head on the side of the motorway, in a coma for 3 days.. Coming round the policeman telling me I should be Dead. Now Im as silly as Ive ever been. Where theres no sense theres no Feeling ;D

I hate to say this,because I was rooting for Ricky in that fight,that knockout scared the hell out of me. He looked worse then Vonda Ward vs Ann Wolfe,and I didnt think that was possible. I mean Vonda was deffinitly out,but Ricky didnt seem to want to come back after he went out.

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I hate to say this,because I was rooting for Ricky in that fight,that knockout scared the hell out of me. He looked worse then Vonda Ward vs Ann Wolfe,and I didnt think that was possible. I mean Vonda was deffinitly out,but Ricky didnt seem to want to come back after he went out.

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The heavy breathing... the rolling eyes... the half opened mouth... Real scary moment... Creepy...

Unfortunately that's part of this very dangerous sport of boxing...
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I hate to say this,because I was rooting for Ricky in that fight,that knockout scared the hell out of me. He looked worse then Vonda Ward vs Ann Wolfe,and I didnt think that was possible. I mean Vonda was deffinitly out,but Ricky didnt seem to want to come back after he went out.

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The heavy breathing... the rolling eyes... the half opened mouth... Real scary moment... Creepy...

Unfortunately that's part of this very dangerous sport of boxing...
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Almost all sports are dangerous,from AJ Foyt blowing up his car,to Darryl Stingley never getting up again,but Ricky scared the hell out of me.Im a Hatton fan,but even excusing that fact,it took a long time for the eyes to even focus even a little bit.I think the fact that I am a Hatton fan,made it even worse,because at that moment I wasnt sure he was getting up at all.

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I hate to say this,because I was rooting for Ricky in that fight,that knockout scared the hell out of me. He looked worse then Vonda Ward vs Ann Wolfe,and I didnt think that was possible. I mean Vonda was deffinitly out,but Ricky didnt seem to want to come back after he went out.

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The heavy breathing... the rolling eyes... the half opened mouth... Real scary moment... Creepy...

Unfortunately that's part of this very dangerous sport of boxing...
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Almost all sports are dangerous,from AJ Foyt blowing up his car,to Darryl Stingley never getting up again,but Ricky scared the hell out of me.Im a Hatton fan,but even excusing that fact,it took a long time for the eyes to even focus even a little bit.I think the fact that I am a Hatton fan,made it even worse,because at that moment I wasnt sure he was getting up at all.

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Yep I think it's the worst moment for Hatton's love ones and supporters... You can just watch how terrified Hatton's girl was and members of Hatton's immediate family...
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The heavy breathing... the rolling eyes... the half opened mouth... Real scary moment... Creepy...

Unfortunately that's part of this very dangerous sport of boxing...
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Almost all sports are dangerous,from AJ Foyt blowing up his car,to Darryl Stingley never getting up again,but Ricky scared the hell out of me.Im a Hatton fan,but even excusing that fact,it took a long time for the eyes to even focus even a little bit.I think the fact that I am a Hatton fan,made it even worse,because at that moment I wasnt sure he was getting up at all.

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Yep I think it's the worst moment for Hatton's love ones and supporters... You can just watch how terrified Hatton's girl was and members of Hatton's immediate family...
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I booked part of the undercard for that fight,ok I know as a matchmaker,Im never supposed to have a rooting interest,but I like how Hatton fights,Id never train a boxer to fight that way but its allway entertaining to watch.One of the few fights I watch as a fan,and that happens.
Hejus Christe
And then they flash to his girl,and she's devestated frightened.
Ive honestly had a hard time working since then. I know boxing is what I do for a living,but its been hard since that knockout to convince myself its worth the money.

If I had Parkinsons, I would glue my hand to my cock

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NICE;D

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I though long term brain damage was caused by lots of puches over a number of years not just 1 single hard shot.


I think this sounds like sombody who likes the sound of there own voice.

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Long-term brain damage can be caused by a single hard shot, be it with a fist, a bat, or a car. But i agree this article seems to be pointless sensationalism.