So many choices but for me....
1-2nd Bowe fight
2-Tillman fight
3-1st Tyson fight
Going over a few old fights and god evander could be a fucking animal back in his cruserweight early heavyweight days
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So many choices but for me....
1-2nd Bowe fight
2-Tillman fight
3-1st Tyson fight
Going over a few old fights and god evander could be a fucking animal back in his cruserweight early heavyweight days
I terms of enjoyment, the 3 Bowe fights and the first Tyson fight are untouchable imo.
Most impressive Bowe II and Tyson I
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Originally Posted by BIG H
1st bowe fight and 1st Qawi fight cant be beat in terms of all round excitement if you ask me.
Im going on his greatest performances!!
You've got to go with the first Tyson fight. Being written off after the third Bowe fight. So they figure what the hell he's all washed up now. My god what a performance.
Love the Bowe fights, but the first Tyson fight had me on the edge of my seat and will forever remain one of my greatest memories of watching boxing.
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Originally Posted by bzkfn
wasnt a prime tyson he beat though was it??
It was a guy who had come out of prison, had aged a good few years and was always gonna be beatable to anyone who could get the fight beyond the 3rd round.
It was an incredible performance from evander but it wasnt like he was totally written off ala:douglas. Many within the game who had followed holyfield throughout his career gave him a chance!!
I know but as a kid, when I saw Tyson walk to the ring he had that invincible aura around him, and I saw no way Holyfield was gunna win. It was just stunning to see Tyson forced to look so humble by a guy many said was passed his best. I have the Bowe fights and Tyson fights on DVD and even in the Bowe fights the commontators were saying Holyfield was passed his best and should retire. The commontators said it in the 1st Tyson fight too. I remember them saying a shitload of late money got put on a Tyson first round KO. For me I found the performance stunning, that Holyfield could take the shots and come back with better.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
wasnt a prime tyson he beat though was it??
It was a guy who had come out of prison, had aged a good few years and was always gonna be beatable to anyone who could get the fight beyond the 3rd round.
It was an incredible performance from evander but it wasnt like he was totally written off ala:douglas. Many within the game who had followed holyfield throughout his career gave him a chance!!
I was a kid though, and your memories always stand out as being more nostalgic as a child. Its one of my favourite moments in boxing.
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Originally Posted by bzkfnI know but as a kid, when I saw Tyson walk to the ring he had that invincible aura around him, and I saw no way Holyfield was gunna win. It was just stunning to see Tyson forced to look so humble by a guy many said was passed his best. I have the Bowe fights and Tyson fights on DVD and even in the Bowe fights the commontators were saying Holyfield was passed his best and should retire. The commontators said it in the 1st Tyson fight too. I remember them saying a shitload of late money got put on a Tyson first round KO. For me I found the performance stunning, that Holyfield could take the shots and come back with better.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
wasnt a prime tyson he beat though was it??
It was a guy who had come out of prison, had aged a good few years and was always gonna be beatable to anyone who could get the fight beyond the 3rd round.
It was an incredible performance from evander but it wasnt like he was totally written off ala:douglas. Many within the game who had followed holyfield throughout his career gave him a chance!!
I was a kid though, and your memories always stand out as being more nostalgic as a child. Its one of my favourite moments in boxing.
thats too true
i was only about 13 at the time and naturally didnt get up to watch it live but when it came on the news the next morning every single person in my household was completely gob smacked as the media made it appear as if it was a routine tyson blowout.
Evander didnt half have to take some punishment that night though. kinda like how margacheato did against cotto
Think I was 11 at the time and my dad stayed up to watch it so he let me stay up as well. I remember the whole judgement night card that sky put on. Frank Warren show topped by Collins-Benn that had Naz, Robin Reid & Winky Wright fighting Ensley Bingham on the undercard and then we crossed to Vegas to see 3 Heavyweight title fights in Akinwande vs. some Russian dude, Moorer vs. Botha and then Tyson vs. Holyfield. I miss the days when your money bout you a PPV card that good.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnI know but as a kid, when I saw Tyson walk to the ring he had that invincible aura around him, and I saw no way Holyfield was gunna win. It was just stunning to see Tyson forced to look so humble by a guy many said was passed his best. I have the Bowe fights and Tyson fights on DVD and even in the Bowe fights the commontators were saying Holyfield was passed his best and should retire. The commontators said it in the 1st Tyson fight too. I remember them saying a shitload of late money got put on a Tyson first round KO. For me I found the performance stunning, that Holyfield could take the shots and come back with better.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
I was a kid though, and your memories always stand out as being more nostalgic as a child. Its one of my favourite moments in boxing.
thats too true
i was only about 13 at the time and naturally didnt get up to watch it live but when it came on the news the next morning every single person in my household was completely gob smacked as the media made it appear as if it was a routine tyson blowout.
Evander didnt half have to take some punishment that night though. kinda like how margacheato did against cotto
ive heard that card mentioned on here a few times - that must of been some night for your regular fight fan.Quote:
Originally Posted by bzkfnThink I was 11 at the time and my dad stayed up to watch it so he let me stay up as well. I remember the whole judgement night card that sky put on. Frank Warren show topped by Collins-Benn that had Naz, Robin Reid & Winky Wright fighting Ensley Bingham on the undercard and then we crossed to Vegas to see 3 Heavyweight title fights in Akinwande vs. some Russian dude, Moorer vs. Botha and then Tyson vs. Holyfield. I miss the days when your money bout you a PPV card that good.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
thats too true
i was only about 13 at the time and naturally didnt get up to watch it live but when it came on the news the next morning every single person in my household was completely gob smacked as the media made it appear as if it was a routine tyson blowout.
Evander didnt half have to take some punishment that night though. kinda like how margacheato did against cotto
Remember staying up till 4 in the morning to watch lewis-bruno at a sold out cardiff arms park and they must of had at least 7 top quality fights that night.
If sky had billed hatton-pacquiao with khan-kotelnik, enzo mac, rogan-sexton i and many others would happily of paid a good 30 quid to book that (had i not of been in vegas of course;D)!!
He WAS totally written off - Tyson was 1-22 odds on!!Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by bzkfn
wasnt a prime tyson he beat though was it??
It was a guy who had come out of prison, had aged a good few years and was always gonna be beatable to anyone who could get the fight beyond the 3rd round.
It was an incredible performance from evander but it wasnt like he was totally written off ala:douglas. Many within the game who had followed holyfield throughout his career gave him a chance!!
Evander Holyfield vs Michael Dokes was the best heavyweight fight I've seen...I'm surprised nobody mentioned that fight before..
Beating Tyson and Bowe was great but his KO over Adilison Rodrigez was special.
all three Bowe fights - can't believe Bowe survived that knockdown in III, he looked done.
and of course Tyson I
Suprised no one has mentioned any of the Dwight Muhammad Qawi fights, the 1st one was one of the best fights i've ever seen. And the 2nd fight was one of his most impressive skillful performances of his career. And considering how good Dwight Muhammad Qawi was thats saying a whole lot.
I think it is safe to say that by the 1st Bowe fight Evander was starting to show decreasing stamina. His ability to fight 12 hard rounds didn't drop off quite as dramatically as say ODH but when I watch that fight and ones afterward now I can see he took part of some rounds off. Unlike a guy like Lennox both Tyson's and Evander's prime was relatively short. It is hard to say who was father past it in 1996. I think Evander really wanted to be a knock out artist at HW and put on muscle to do so. To me this is what started to adversley effect his stamina and the whole heart issue. IMHO if he had stayed closer to 200 than 220 not mention stay a counter punch boxer and not brawler he may have one a few more. I still remeber when he had Bowe down in the third fight but just didnt' seem to have anything left in the tank to finish him. To me the Qawi fight is hands down his best fight for pure entertainment and the demolishing of Moorer in the rematch was very impressive.
Tyson 1...completely outclassed Tyson
Bowe 2...remarkable effort against the bigger man
Lewis 2...superb performance unrewarded, as much as Lewis was robbed in the first fight Holyfield was denied in the second. (It was just payback)
No doubt.Rodriquez looked like he was frozen in place,just pulverized......he was really jabbing Holyfield goofy in the opening & then Boooom!Out & doneQuote:
Originally Posted by Master
some favs
Dokes.....great gritty war.
Mercer....Mercer comes in in top form and boxes very well,then a cut Holyfield roars back and explodes on him,making him take a knee for solid win.
Tyson 1....could not find anyone outside of Don Turner picking Holyfield.The talking heads were openly saying he ran a good chance of being injured badly.One of the most comprehensive break downs of a fighter.
Lewis 2....can u say judge reimbursement :-X.Thought he took it
Bowe 1....hated the weight,game plan went out the window after nasty 1st round exchange....not smart as his brawn took over and told his brain to sit down and STFU.Classic battle
Qawi 1....true coming of age.Sensational classic
Foreman....hardy ever gets mention But he put on a great boxing plan.Kept his head,Foreman almost caved him in with monster body shot,winded late but like that one
Moorer 2....bounces Michael around like a red rubber ball.Brutal uppercuts but Moorer shows huge brass climbing up for more.
Vaughn Bean and Larry Donald......just kidding,tricky guys but these were nauseating
Mercer and Foreman fights were my favorites
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Originally Posted by BIG H
You done well to get 1/22 on Tyson; as I had a tenner on Holyfield at 24/1, which I guess makes Tyson at least 1/28....
As for the thread:
I always liked the first Qawi fight; then Dokes and the first Stewart fight. I was also impressed with the Parkey fight, when he showed perhaps for the first time that the talk of the move to Heavyweight, maybe a success..... :o
I am a huge Holyfeild fan he has had such great fights hard for me to choose them i think somtimes people can forget how good Evander Hoilyfeild was because he has fought on so much past prime. I have to think on what fight i would pick as my fav its going to be hard.
Bobby Chaz.
at Cruiserweight, i'd say my 2 favs are Qawi I (of course), and against Ricky Parkey
Heavies, well Bowe I & II, Moorer II, Foreman, Dokes, Tyson I, and Rahman
Toney/Holyfield was my favorite.
tyson,fights
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Originally Posted by ICB
i mentioned it earlier on
1st fight was a bit naive from evander as he was clearly the better boxer from the word go but kept trying to engage Qawi despite the fact he had the height and weight advantage.
By the 2nd fight evander had just worked his man out and was able to pick him off at will!!
Perhaps the greatest cruiserweight of all time. Could have perhaps been considered one of the best heavyweight if he would have stop on time. I will always wonder how come nobody stepped in to deny him any further licence before it's way too late and something horrible happens.
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Originally Posted by Nameless
being the greatest cruiser of hard time is hardly a massive acknowledgment considering there havent been a hell of a lot of good fighters to come out of that division.
though agreed he is the best by a complete mile of a very average bunch
I do not deny that, cruiserweight has hardly been the most exciting division in ages, I was just stating the fact... and that I wonder how he gets still licences to fight when he barely does something in a ring against any quality opponent.Quote:
Originally Posted by hattonthehammerQuote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
being the greatest cruiser of hard time is hardly a massive acknowledgment considering there havent been a hell of a lot of good fighters to come out of that division.
though agreed he is the best by a complete mile of a very average bunch