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Is Hatton now a club fighter?
He tried his best. Compare a Hatton future at 35 and how he would fare against 35 year old Tszyu. Owned!
Heres the list, at least he had a great win one time. I suppose he has to fight back from that glorified club fighter tag and do something, or else people will think he had a fantastically lucky night. No, I've never excepted the result of fighting Two Guys, Paris and Hatton to be a fair accurate representation.
TSZYU - Hall of fame fighter, one of the greatest 140 pound fighters all time, near 36 when lost
CASTILLO - Past his best. NEVER did Anything to be called Great. Good fighter, big difference to Tszyu
COLLAZO - Not a great boxer won a belt through circumstance, never seen since, lost title first or second defence.
URANGO - Solid fighter
MALIGNAGGI - A good fighter
MAUSSA - Beat a trashed Harris, doesnt everyone, like Witter. Not a great fighter
LAZCANO - Never a World Champ. A nobody on the alltime list
PHILLIPS - WELL past his best
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Rodriguez:
Pineda:
Bergman
Grove
Ruelas
Hurtado
Gonzalez
Chavez
Mitchell
Judah
Tackie
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It's getting boring :rolleyes:
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Actually, it's all sour grapes. Hatton is OK. I am still somewhat surprised he beat ANY version of Tszyu, but he did. Anyway, they fought he won. As far as Tszyu's career goes, I think the selection panel at the hall of fame will have no trouble inducting him.
I have found some of the highlights of Pacquiaos victory amusing. I suppose Tszyu was never flogged that bad, but there was another Australian boxer Fenech years ago who was a triplle weight world champ in the rugged brawler mode of Hatton who got done.
It was no joy, but I suppose it's harder for brawlers. Does he have it in him to go on. It will be tough. He'll need ample time to see if he wants to try. Certainly he doesn't need the money, and even these lesser fighters with a belt at 140, he's fighting for a fraction of what he has already made. It's all well for others to say one more time, but you should be careful. One more time assuming he's the old guy, not a changed fighter.
Good luck, commiserations, he had a great victory, much as I didn't like seeing what I thought was a greater fighter lose, he did lose. Hatton has been entertaining enough, and he was the better man when they fought. Does that get Ricky into the hall of fame, who cares I suppose. He gets into his countrymans thoughts, he beat a great fighter. He is rich for his efforts.
I suppose, well done, he has been good to watch
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QUOTE: It's getting boring :rolleyes:
True, is infact...Hattons loss to Pacquaio, although I thought he'd lose by way of decision was dramatic. It was humbling, and various funny clips have been made as a result. I would concur, it's now starting to be done to death..
I quit while I am behind, as I don't mind Ricky, though certainly had a good dig. I dont know where he goes from here. Maybe he wants a last fight for pride, maybe he's satisfied he's done enough. We'll see.
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Mid thirties Vince Phillips beat the shit out of a 28-year-old Kostya. Where's the old-age excuse there?
Hatton beat the shit out of Kostya forcing him to quit. The fact old Phillips beat the shit out of him too can only mean Tszyu is one of the most OVERRATED fighters of all time NOT the greatest. Fact.
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NOPE..........he lost to Philips, period. It was a technical knockout. He looked OK up till midway v Phillips. He just lost that one, for whetever reason. In examining his career, it speaks for itself.
Losing to Hatton, he Quit, no protest o9n his behalf. If that called getting beat to death still on your feet, Hatton was dropped by a much lighter punching guy twice in r0ound 1, and was put out for munuted with the KO.
Same, Tszyu lost to Hatton on the night. Interms of beating the man making you the man, the resumes for both guys will be judged accordingly. Other guys will bring up clips for you. So far one guy will get into the hall of fame. Hatton, does he want to go to the hall of fame, I dont know. He may need to do more, but I am not the judge at Canastota.
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I'm finding hard to remember a single person who suggested Tszyu was old before the Hatton fight, it's great to wise after the even ;)
What I remember is nearly everybody saying Tszyu would destroy Hatton and that Tszyu looked at his peak against Mitchell 7 months earlier. I always wonder what happend in those 7 months that suddenly made Tszyu old and shot
He spent his whole career at one weight, so there were not issues with weight draining etc, he was only 35, had only had 31 fights (7 less that Hatton) and he wasn't it wasn't like his fights were wars that would catch up on you. Hopkins hadn't even fought Trinidad buy the time he was 35.
And those names on Tszyu's resume could have exactly the same arguments applied to them as you have applied to Hatton's opposition. Seriously mate, Zab Judah and Sharmba Mitchell as his best career opponents :o
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Who's the lighter punching guy? Pac? Kostya never fought Pac so all you can do is guess the outcome. Pac KO 1 is just as likely as anything.
The facts are..
Kostya was stopped TWICE at 140. Fact.
Hatton beat Tszyu. Fact. Hatton even beat the other guy that beat Tszyu. Fact.
Kostya has NO excuses. Fact.
Kostya is overrated. IMO. Fact.
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Fenster
Who's the lighter punching guy? Pac? Kostya never fought Pac so all you can do is guess the outcome. Pac KO 1 is just as likely as anything.
The facts are..
Kostya was stopped TWICE at 140. Fact.
Hatton beat Tszyu. Fact. Hatton even beat the other guy that beat Tszyu. Fact.
Kostya has NO excuses. Fact.
Kostya is overrated. IMO. Fact.
I agree with that. Although I am basing that on a.) losing to Hatton, b.) losing to Philips and c.) far from great opposition.
I may be doing him an injustice, because he could only beat (sometimes ;)) the man infront of him and had he fought some ATGs who's to say he wouldn't have beaten them - we just don't know.
PS Putting "Fact" and then "IMO" ;D
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Hatton has always been a B level fighter.
He was good but never great.
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Pugilistic
Hatton has always been a B level fighter.
He was good but never great.
Agree his was "Good" not "Great" but he certainly wasn't "B Level" B Level fighters do not achieve what Hatton has
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BIG H
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Fenster
Who's the lighter punching guy? Pac? Kostya never fought Pac so all you can do is guess the outcome. Pac KO 1 is just as likely as anything.
The facts are..
Kostya was stopped TWICE at 140. Fact.
Hatton beat Tszyu. Fact. Hatton even beat the other guy that beat Tszyu. Fact.
Kostya has NO excuses. Fact.
Kostya is overrated. IMO. Fact.
I agree with that. Although I am basing that on a.) losing to Hatton, b.) losing to Philips and c.) far from great opposition.
I may be doing him an injustice, because he could only beat (sometimes ;)) the man infront of him and had he fought some ATGs who's to say he wouldn't have beaten them - we just don't know.
PS Putting "Fact" and then "IMO" ;D
;D
It's true though. Kostya's best win is Judah. Yet he is always labeled as GREAT. It doesn't make sense.
I think he's overrated because of his good to watch style and rattail. Fact.
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Is this a revision of your previous thread about Pac owning hatton as his bitch and hatton being a candidate as a gay icon........secretly i feel the love you have for Hatton oozing through.:rolleyes:
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Posted this before, but for the smart Alec's who were infact the catalysts for these comments originally, I'll post it again.
Alot of guys were fought in between these top opponents, spanning a long long title reign. The overall body of work beating top opponnets is deeper and longer than Hattons. He also fought actively until he was 32-33, so Hatton did fight more guys, but he ceratinly wasnt taking on former world champions in his fourth pro fight, because nobody could match up with him. Should check out some of Tszyus earlier fights, you win notice his considerable speed in comparison to when older, and dynamic buzz saw attack.
Of note, he also beat alot of future world champions as an amateur, most notably Vernon Forrest for the Amateur World Title. The evidence: The guy who actually beat Philips as a Pro to become world champion Millet, gets owned alongside guys like Forrest. YouTube - Kostya Tszyu | Terron Millett I (a) 1/1
Fourth fight as a pro - former world champion, Juan LaPorte
Former world champion, Livingstone Bramble
Former world champion - First Pro World Title, Jake Rodriguez
x2 World Champion Roger Mayweather, first title defence 12th or so Pro fight! (went hard with Whittaker)
Hugo Pineda, Sydney, Australia, TKO 11
6'1 Undefeated at the time, very dangerous. ONCE THESE GUYS ARE BEAT, never the same
Jan Bergman
Calvin Grove, Australia, Former World Champion
Rafael Ruelas, Former World Chmapion
Diobelys Hurtado, Former World Title holder, who was atop draw fighter who gave Whittaker all he could handle, then wore down later in his career
Miguel Angel Gonzalez, Long reigning Lightweight Champion, and Jnr Welterweight champion, One of Mexicos best ever, and was finished as a fighter after Tszyu DESTROYED him, far more easily than a Prime De La Hoya
Destroyed the Great Julio Cesar Chavez
Beat top champion in his prime, Sharmba Mitchell
Massacred future Undisputed Welterweight champion Zab Judah when he was at his most dangerous weight 140. Never quite the same after it
Pitched an absolute shutout, when Ben Tackie was actually good as the no1 challenger. Never the same fighter again
Beat former world champion Leija who had just disposed of the then up and coming Hector Camacho jr.
Signs of slowing down against Leija, THEN 2 YEAR INJURY LAYOFF
Most notable wins, Rodriguez, Ruelas, Hurtado, Gonzalez, Chavez, x2 Mitchell, Judah WHEN THESE GUYS COULD ACTUALLY FIGHT, with the exceptio
DESTROYED Sharmba Mitchell, when rated inside the top 10, being the top active fighter in boxings then current strongest division. Tszyus power covered up the fact he hadn't fought more than 3 rounds in 2 years
35 - Defeated by Ricky Hatton in a fight that didn't go his way.
These are what I would call Kostya Tszyus best wins. His first being in 1995, his last 2002, when he was 32!! He was starting to visibly slow against Leija, and when he fought Hatton at 35, he had fought 3 rounds in two years.
The Roger Mayweather fight is Nowhere near the list. The reason I dumped that in was because a name you may know. Also it was Tszyu First worl titke defence, after only like 12 pro fights or something, and he won ALL 12 rounds.
Tszyus best performances to me.
Rodriguez: Good solid champ Dominated
Pineda: 6'1 Undefeated, never the same afterward
Bergman: Mandatory, wicked KO
Grove: Former world champ mowed down in round 1
Ruelas: One of Mexicos better fighters, got thrashed in 8
Hurtado: Former world titlist, never quite the same afterwards
Gonzalez: Arguably Tszyu best win, destroyed a then great boxer
Chavez: One of the few men to EVER drop Chavez, mandatory no1 def
Mitchell X2: Excellent boxer in prime, top ten p4p when beat again
Judah: Former Undisputed Welterweight champ, at best first time 140
Tackie: Mandatory no1 contender, 12 rd shut out, never the same again.
I would say those are Tszyus best fights. Julio Cesar Chavez was the mandatory no1 challenger, not the garbish man, as much as you dislike the fact.
True Kostya doesnt have a prime hall of fame opponent to his list, but you take Chavez anyway, as they fought, and one of onlt two guys to EVER drop him.
The quality of opponnets goes from year 1995,96, 98,99,2000,2001,2002. It was a significant reign, with other guys fought between these times. I mean if you look up Pineda now, he was shot and going down after that fight, but up until then, a great challenger. That was the case for many of Tszyus opponents, when they lost, never the same. How you rate them, personal prefernce. Tackie was not the same guy fighting Hatton when he fought Tszyu etc.
Since Hatton doesnt like southpaws, how would he go with Mitchell and Judah. We may have a chance to see Judah, past both guys best before they're both done. A great career, and top3 alltime 140 punds, with Pryor, and i'd have Chavez behind them based on actual work at that weight.
TSZYU - Hall of fame fighter, one of the greatest 140 pound fighters all time, near 36 when lost
CASTILLO - Past his best. NEVER did Anything to be called Great. Good fighter, big difference to Tszyu
COLLAZO - Not a great boxer won a belt through circumstance, never seen since, lost title first or second defence.
URANGO - Solid fighter
MALIGNAGGI - A good fighter
MAUSSA - Beat a trashed Harris, doesnt everyone, like Witter. Not a great fighter
LAZCANO - Never a World Champ. A nobody on the alltime list
PHILLIPS - WELL past his best
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Rodriguez:
Pineda:
Bergman
Grove
Ruelas
Hurtado
Gonzalez
Chavez
Mitchell
Judah
Tackie
Kostya has a better resume..He fought better guys, and some opponents in common when they were at their best, not faded. It was a long and distinguished record, and thats why he is a hall of fame fighter. Hatton is a good fighter, and I was surprised how badly he lost to Pacquiao. Top ten p4p on his day. Struggles badly against Southpaws, as evident against Collazo prior to Pacquiao. Still has a chance for a title and a good win before he retires
Have it your way then, Hatton was a Fluke. OR he beat an overated fighter and has never beaten Any top fighter Ricky Hatton demolished! " Bring Me To Life " by evanescence
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Re: Is Hatton now a club fighter?
Sorry I am now confused, who is this thread about ?? As for KT , tha guy was a great fighter but when people defend his loss against Hatton by throwing up the age question then ask youself why in the f**ck was he in there, cause he didn't rate hatton and got taken, age or not FACT .....he lost, go build a bridge.
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It's a collective of facts in support of why Tszyu was infact an alltime great, one of the top two 140 pound fighters ever. Alot of that post was posted elsewhere in response to wanting to explain why Tszyus resume was as destinguished as I said it was.
True, he could still fight, even at near 36, but he hadn't fought in nearly 2 years, going only 3 rounds in that time..
Ricky Hatton was the better man on the night, cheers :cool:
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KostyaTszyuTeam
It's a collective of facts in support of why Tszyu was infact an alltime great, one of the top two 140 pound fighters ever. Alot of that post was posted elsewhere in response to wanting to explain why Tszyus resume was as destinguished as I said it was.
True, he could still fight, even at near 36, but he hadn't fought in nearly 2 years, going only 3 rounds in that time..
Ricky Hatton was the better man on the night, cheers :cool:
No.. the post shows, based on his pro record, Kostya should be called a good fighter not a great one. He simply hasn't beaten (or fought) enough Grade 1 opposition.
If Kostya is great then many others, with similar records, like Hatton, should be called great too. But that's not the case.
And the very fact a PRIME Kostya was whooped by old Vince Phillips is an unforgiving, glaring stain on his "greatness."
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Well to me KT is very overrated by people i mean his resume is that of Hatton they are the same no other way for me to look at it at all. As for him being great i really dont think he deserves that title really i mean you can put him in top what ever 140 people but not the word great no. As for the JCC win please dont make me laugh Oscar finished anything that was left on that dude as for him not getting fights with big boys well Phillips kicking his ass kinda put a dent on the Mosley or Dela Hoya fights.
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How dare you the great Kostya beaten by a club fighter.... i wont hear of it ;D
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BIG H
I'm finding hard to remember a single person who suggested Tszyu was old before the Hatton fight, it's great to wise after the even ;)
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I like poking holes in this one. Fact is, we are in a lot better position to judge whether or not TSZYU is past it after seeing him fight, no?
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I think he hasn't gotten over the Kostya loss to Hatton ;D
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guess using your logic we can ask, Is Tzsyu a chicken shit for quitting on his stool and then running into retirement, ala Hamed?
do i think that? no
do i think that Hatton is a club fighter? no, he's a former 3 time world champion, held world titles in 2 divisions and was the man at 140 twice, IMO he's a top 10 junior welter of all time, but do i think he's one of the greatest fighters of his time, no
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Fenster
Who's the lighter punching guy? Pac? Kostya never fought Pac so all you can do is guess the outcome. Pac KO 1 is just as likely as anything.
The facts are..
Kostya was stopped TWICE at 140. Fact.
Hatton beat Tszyu. Fact. Hatton even beat the other guy that beat Tszyu. Fact.
Kostya has NO excuses. Fact.
Kostya is overrated. IMO. Fact.
Hatton got away with every foul cuz the ref was in his pocket. Fact
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Violent Demise
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Originally Posted by
Fenster
Who's the lighter punching guy? Pac? Kostya never fought Pac so all you can do is guess the outcome. Pac KO 1 is just as likely as anything.
The facts are..
Kostya was stopped TWICE at 140. Fact.
Hatton beat Tszyu. Fact. Hatton even beat the other guy that beat Tszyu. Fact.
Kostya has NO excuses. Fact.
Kostya is overrated. IMO. Fact.
Hatton got away with every foul cuz the ref was in his pocket. Fact
That's opinion not fact.
"I have nothing to be ashamed of - I lost to the better fighter. I never felt that Ricky could beat me, but it happened. Everyone can be beaten. This is life." Kostya Tszyu
That's from the horses mouth. Fact.
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CGM
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BIG H
I'm finding hard to remember a single person who suggested Tszyu was old before the Hatton fight, it's great to wise after the even ;)
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I like poking holes in this one. Fact is, we are in a lot better position to judge whether or not TSZYU is past it after seeing him fight, no?
It's just very convenient. Besides Tszyu never made any suggestions that it was a fight too many for him.
There is no evidence or circumstances that would make him past it
Only35 years old
31 fights
No wars
Just coming off arguably best career performances
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WHAT WHAT WHAT does the Hatton-Kosta thing has to do with the original question? To my eyes, nothing. No matter if Tszyu or Hatton has been the best, it doesn't mean Hatton was a club fighter. As far as I am concerned, Hatton is a very good boxer, he's just not top of the elite and his life style plus his "absorb blows" type of defense are simply shortening his career by a couple of years but nowhere because he has been battered by two of the top boxers in the world or the "where does he stand" compared to Kosta means he's releagued to a club boxer status.
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So a loss (albeit a dismantling) to the top fighter in the world make you club fighter?
Hatton is a very good fighter. Not great.
KT is a great 140. The Hatton-KT fight was an ugly lesson in dirty boxing. KT fought the wrong fight and lost. Hatto's tactics made me ill, but they were effective.
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Well I'm not sure I heard the argument for this the first 5 times you brought up the exact same information, could you please repeat it.
Clearly this is not a wind up thread, and KostyaTzsyu'sPowerRangerSquad is simply looking to inform.
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KostyaTszyuTeam
He tried his best. Compare a Hatton future at 35 and how he would fare against 35 year old Tszyu. Owned!
Heres the list, at least he had a great win one time. I suppose he has to fight back from that glorified club fighter tag and do something, or else people will think he had a fantastically lucky night. No, I've never excepted the result of fighting Two Guys, Paris and Hatton to be a fair accurate representation.
TSZYU - Hall of fame fighter, one of the greatest 140 pound fighters all time, near 36 when lost
CASTILLO - Past his best. NEVER did Anything to be called Great. Good fighter, big difference to Tszyu
COLLAZO - Not a great boxer won a belt through circumstance, never seen since, lost title first or second defence.
URANGO - Solid fighter
MALIGNAGGI - A good fighter
MAUSSA - Beat a trashed Harris, doesnt everyone, like Witter. Not a great fighter
LAZCANO - Never a World Champ. A nobody on the alltime list
PHILLIPS - WELL past his best
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Rodriguez:
Pineda:
Bergman
Grove
Ruelas
Hurtado
Gonzalez
Chavez
Mitchell
Judah
Tackie
Jesus Christ mate, your like a broken record, seriously go back to the Kosta site where you belong, you are pathetic. This is a boxing site mate not a site where we get our cocks out over Kosta and try to belittle an opponent who beat him, get over it mate, it was four years ago, re build your life its not to late. Life will go on.
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skel1983
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Originally Posted by
KostyaTszyuTeam
He tried his best. Compare a Hatton future at 35 and how he would fare against 35 year old Tszyu. Owned!
Heres the list, at least he had a great win one time. I suppose he has to fight back from that glorified club fighter tag and do something, or else people will think he had a fantastically lucky night. No, I've never excepted the result of fighting Two Guys, Paris and Hatton to be a fair accurate representation.
TSZYU - Hall of fame fighter, one of the greatest 140 pound fighters all time, near 36 when lost
CASTILLO - Past his best. NEVER did Anything to be called Great. Good fighter, big difference to Tszyu
COLLAZO - Not a great boxer won a belt through circumstance, never seen since, lost title first or second defence.
URANGO - Solid fighter
MALIGNAGGI - A good fighter
MAUSSA - Beat a trashed Harris, doesnt everyone, like Witter. Not a great fighter
LAZCANO - Never a World Champ. A nobody on the alltime list
PHILLIPS - WELL past his best
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Rodriguez:
Pineda:
Bergman
Grove
Ruelas
Hurtado
Gonzalez
Chavez
Mitchell
Judah
Tackie
Jesus Christ mate, your like a broken record, seriously go back to the Kosta site where you belong, you are pathetic. This is a boxing site mate not a site where we get our cocks out over Kosta and try to belittle an opponent who beat him, get over it mate, it was four years ago, re build your life its not to late. Life will go on.
he should look on the bright side, at least he's still got Mundine :-\:-\:-\ ;D;D;D hahaha
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skel1983
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KostyaTszyuTeam
He tried his best. Compare a Hatton future at 35 and how he would fare against 35 year old Tszyu. Owned!
Heres the list, at least he had a great win one time. I suppose he has to fight back from that glorified club fighter tag and do something, or else people will think he had a fantastically lucky night. No, I've never excepted the result of fighting Two Guys, Paris and Hatton to be a fair accurate representation.
TSZYU - Hall of fame fighter, one of the greatest 140 pound fighters all time, near 36 when lost
CASTILLO - Past his best. NEVER did Anything to be called Great. Good fighter, big difference to Tszyu
COLLAZO - Not a great boxer won a belt through circumstance, never seen since, lost title first or second defence.
URANGO - Solid fighter
MALIGNAGGI - A good fighter
MAUSSA - Beat a trashed Harris, doesnt everyone, like Witter. Not a great fighter
LAZCANO - Never a World Champ. A nobody on the alltime list
PHILLIPS - WELL past his best
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Rodriguez:
Pineda:
Bergman
Grove
Ruelas
Hurtado
Gonzalez
Chavez
Mitchell
Judah
Tackie
Jesus Christ mate, your like a broken record, seriously go back to the Kosta site where you belong, you are pathetic. This is a boxing site mate not a site where we get our cocks out over Kosta and try to belittle an opponent who beat him,
get over it mate, it was four years ago, re build your life its not to late. Life will go on.
He's the Ray Finkle of Saddo's;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afViRNSr5wg
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LEGION
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skel1983
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Originally Posted by
KostyaTszyuTeam
He tried his best. Compare a Hatton future at 35 and how he would fare against 35 year old Tszyu. Owned!
Heres the list, at least he had a great win one time. I suppose he has to fight back from that glorified club fighter tag and do something, or else people will think he had a fantastically lucky night. No, I've never excepted the result of fighting Two Guys, Paris and Hatton to be a fair accurate representation.
TSZYU - Hall of fame fighter, one of the greatest 140 pound fighters all time, near 36 when lost
CASTILLO - Past his best. NEVER did Anything to be called Great. Good fighter, big difference to Tszyu
COLLAZO - Not a great boxer won a belt through circumstance, never seen since, lost title first or second defence.
URANGO - Solid fighter
MALIGNAGGI - A good fighter
MAUSSA - Beat a trashed Harris, doesnt everyone, like Witter. Not a great fighter
LAZCANO - Never a World Champ. A nobody on the alltime list
PHILLIPS - WELL past his best
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Rodriguez:
Pineda:
Bergman
Grove
Ruelas
Hurtado
Gonzalez
Chavez
Mitchell
Judah
Tackie
Jesus Christ mate, your like a broken record, seriously go back to the Kosta site where you belong, you are pathetic. This is a boxing site mate not a site where we get our cocks out over Kosta and try to belittle an opponent who beat him,
get over it mate, it was four years ago, re build your life its not to late. Life will go on.
He's the Ray Finkle of Saddo's;D
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=afViRNSr5wg
lol love that movie, would be pretty sick if KostyaTszyuTeam ended up bein a chick turned guy to try and throw us off here
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It was all a big wind up, some guys took the bait, others didn't. Yep some of the same Hatton guys were there 4 years ago with the overated, good but not great theme. I'm about done anyway. Curious, how can you be top 3 alltime 140 pounds and NOT be considered great, when there have indeed been great fighters who have been 140 pound champion.
I thibk with the Philips fight, it was just a case of being caught by a bery hard puncher in your prime. Thats too bad, but the quality of the fighters he beat earlier and midway through his career was pretty good. Dont think many know about the fighters sustantively. Yes, the same Millet anhilated in a top end near pro amateur fight. Forrest as well, those were the amateyrs, but you may hypothesise. Rhat isnt guess work is he was a great, and somewhat dismissed fighter. His record at 140 overshadows any fighters work at the same weight.
Life goes on, ciao ciao :cool:
