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I don't know about you guys but I was happy to see Kermit gut it out and pull off the win tonight against Angulo.
Cintron lost his last fight and didn't deserve that draw but he earned his win tonight.
He took on a guy who fought him and pressured him like Margarito, not as effectively, but still, and he beat him.
Good for Kermit. He's a nice guy and an orphan since the age of 15.
And he finally had a career defining win tonight.
I had two thoughts in my mind during this fight:
1) Kermit was way too good of an opponent for Angulo to fight so early on in his career.
2) I thought Kermit would eventually fold having the Margarito fights in his memory. I think this was a big win for him.
(Sidenote: If there was one minute left in the 12th round, I think Kermit was going down)
I thought my favorite fighter, Ricardo Mayorga was too much too soon for Angulo. He would have fought Angulo completely different than Cintron did, but I think he woulda beat on Angulo too.
Cintron was exhausted by the end, and looked almost ready to drop but he pulled it out.
As Vinny Paz would say:
"Pain is temporary. Pride is forever."
Yeah, he did a pretty good job. Made sure he built up a decent buffer and just made sure he kept working. Angulo was coming on the stronger but Cintron had done all the hard work early on. Decent win.
Agreed this was a very good win for him, even if Angulo could of used a couple of tune ups for this. As much as I like Cintron, I honestly think he'll get exposed again by someone with better pressure. I say feed him some more tomato cans, his knockouts are fun to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
lol the orphan thing was kinda from left field :)
Yeah - it was a good win for Cintron.....He boxed well and most importantly didnt seem to get discouraged when he got hit or Angulo didnt go down from his punches right away.
I didnt like Cintron because of his candy azz antics after the Margarito and Martinez fights but found myself rooting for him at the end of Angulo....I did think he was going to pull a Jermaine Taylor in the 12th.....I am glad he held on. Hopefully Angulo doesnt get too discouraged cause the guy can bang and still compete....
Haven't see the fight but I kinda always liked Cintron, not a huge fan but I fairly appreciate the dude. What I am happy about it is that it's a good win under his belt and he doesn't seem to have lost confidence in his means. He needs to condition a bit more, maybe and I am sure that the Kronk is a good place to improve pressure defense, that's one of the thing thatManny normally does well.
Cintron did a great fight and maintained his game plan thru the fight. At a moment during the last round I thought that Cintron was going to fall apart due to Angulo's pressure, but he could recover and connect a couple of solid right hands close to the end of the round. It was a great fight and congratulations to Kermit. It seems that Angulo's team saw Cintron as an additional step and thought that he was going to fall apart, but Cintron's experience was too much for Angulo. Congratulations once again to Cintron, great fight and I hope that he can recover all his confidence and the title...
I wasn't very impressed with Cintron. He did what it took to win but something about it just left a bad taste in my mouth. If it was a 13 round fight Cintron would have been on the canvas, he had nothing left that last round and didn't even bother to throw hands in it.
BORICUA!!!!! Great poise shown by Kermit. He never got outta character or gameplan
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Originally Posted by mexirican
I thought his character was that, when pressured, he breaks down and starts crying....
yea believe me dude we don't consider him one of our own, same goes for Ruiz, in fact his nickname on this part of the island is Kermit "El Lloron" Cintron, and well even if he did surprise me with a win over Angulo, he didn't impress, he'll lose again against Martinez, and also against Kirkland, Williams, and even Santos and Forrest, when most Puerto Ricans are going for Angulo, it's gotta be saying something, i never thought much of Angulo, especially after his last time out, but i do admit that i like that he's willing to take on all comers, but unfortunately he earned himself a nickname of his own, Alfredo "Le Comieron el Culo" Angulo ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by mexirican
I was rooting for Cintron, and thought it was a good win for him. I still don't like the fact that he's inconsistent from fight to fight. And he needs to continue working on his mental/emotional aspects. He's a solid boxer, with KO power in both hands. But he needs to continue working on his mindset if he's to continue climbing back to the top.
Kermit is trained by Ronnie Shields nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
Well the reason I mentioned that, is because Cintron has had a tough life and is a nice guy and that is why I was happy to see him finally get some redemption and a good win.Quote:
Originally Posted by JudahShuffleAgreed this was a very good win for him, even if Angulo could of used a couple of tune ups for this. As much as I like Cintron, I honestly think he'll get exposed again by someone with better pressure. I say feed him some more tomato cans, his knockouts are fun to watch.Quote:
Originally Posted by Hulk
lol the orphan thing was kinda from left field :)
I was happy to see that he has been working on not bending over and turning away from his opponent so much when pressed like he did against Margarito. He still did it sometimes, but not as much as before. He lost to AM twice but who knows if AM's handwraps were illegal. He might be undefeated if not for that, even though he did lose to Martinez but got a draw. Margarito probably beats him either way though.
I missed that in the news, thanks for the info. Well, I trust shield a lot, one of the great overall trainers and he knows too how to cope with his proteges habits and mood, still a great place for him to be.Quote:
Originally Posted by C-LoKermit is trained by Ronnie Shields nowQuote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
He's not with Emmanuel Steward any more, he trains with Ronnie Shields now in Houston. I was happy for him too, because alot of people have been hating on him for the Margarito fights, he didnt fold and has shown some heart for not going into a shell, and he does fight tough guys on the regular.Quote:
Originally Posted by Nameless
cintron is wan of m y my favorite fighters also angulo my favorite prospect both fought it a good win for cintron i think he got to fight martinez again
I agree. Cintron may have been horribly wronged in his fights with Margarito. He went into them a highly marketable undefeaded fighter and came out with his confidence destroyed, only to find out three years latter that Margarito may have (and I believe certainly did) had his gloves loaded with plaster.
Good win for Cintron. Angulo should have waited before this big of a step up in class.Quote:
Originally Posted by boozeboxerQuote:
Originally Posted by mexirican
I thought his character was that, when pressured, he breaks down and starts crying....
Any of the best at 154 will beat Cintron.
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Originally Posted by Lance Uppercut
Lance, you know that Kermit was never meant to be a champion. He doesn't have the heart. To question the use of plaster is pretty speculative, and the bottom line was that Tony was the better man. Tony will always be a warrior and Kermit is not. Kermit had the best opportunities and trainers and just came up short.
Good win for Cintron!
I saw this one coming a mile away.
I'm kicking myself for not putting any money on Cintron at +385 :furiouschairbt2:
Cintron-vs-Angulo was a WBC Eliminator so expect Martinez to beat Cintron again in a few months.