WBC Orders Ward-Dirrell Super Middleweight Eliminator - Boxing News
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honestly wasn't too impressed with Ward against Miranda, he was open to the right all night long, and unlike Miranda i think Dirrell will capitalize on it and make him pay dearlyQuote:
Originally Posted by TigerFan
Bound to happen sooner or later, not sure that they will choose now to execute the fight. Should be one of the most technical fights of the decade though.
Although I think its an excellent match-up I think it could be a lot bigger (& possibly better) a year or two down the line. If one or both of them pick up trinkets & stay undefeated against solid comp this fight has the potential to be a super fight in time.
I don't think theres any need to match these two just yet, although I am all for undefeated contenders meeting each other I think this one can sit in the melting pot a little longer!
i'd actually like to see Ward against BikaQuote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
Bika would be another solid test, as would Allan Green, but I think he should concentrate on Balzsay...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesi'd actually like to see Ward against BikaQuote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
perhaps this eras version of jones-hopkins...
Could be, nice spotQuote:
Originally Posted by JonesJrMayweather
Allan Green would actually be a better test, mainly cause he has good power and a nice straight right, the main punch Ward is open for, IMO he's a decent talent, but if he doesn't work on some of the mistakes that he's constantly making, such as leaving the left way too low, he's gonna pay, and i think Green will force him to make those changes, thinking about it, Bika would be a better test for Dirrell, its a fight against a sturdy pressure fighter, with good power, and a good chin, but not quite iron, would be interesting to see how he doesQuote:
Originally Posted by GalaxyBika would be another solid test, as would Allan Green, but I think he should concentrate on Balzsay...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesi'd actually like to see Ward against BikaQuote:
Originally Posted by Galaxy
The problem is Allen Green doesn't have the speed or skill to land IMO on Ward, I mean didn't Miranda beat Allen Green in a fight where unexpectedly Miranda had a similar if not superior level of boxing skills? Ward-Dirrell is great, and I think Dirrell will show people just how good he actually is.
Very good fight could turn out to be like the RJJ, B-Hop fight in terms of greats meeting early in their careers. I say make the fight, and I pick Dirrell. Ward doesn't have the pop Dirrell has, but they are both fast.
Direll would win.
Nice I have been calling for this for a little while. I wonder if it will happen. I'm pretty sure these guys are friends, which might make it not happen. I agree with some of the other guys on here saying this could be jones/b-hop of our era. I hope it comes off.
You are only open if you are getting hit, how many times have Roy JOnes Jr, Mayweather, Whitaker, Hopkins looked open because they've had their hands down, only to be impossible to hit. Ward was so much faster than Miranda he could get away with it, I doubt he would be that open against Dirrell.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleshonestly wasn't too impressed with Ward against Miranda, he was open to the right all night long, and unlike Miranda i think Dirrell will capitalize on it and make him pay dearlyQuote:
Originally Posted by TigerFan
Green's defense is just as bad as Miranda's but he's a lot more technically sound than him, only other nod i'd give Miranda over Green is his chin, also, remember Green was sick around the time of the Miranda fight, do i think it would have made a difference, no, but i do think he could seriously test Ward, especially when he proved that he doesn't have much powerQuote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
it's not the only fight that he's done it, and Ward's not the fastest fighter either, he has good speed but nothing out of this world, Miranda didn't capitalize cause the only right hand he throws is a wicked, but easily telegraphed, overhand right, Green and Dirrell both have good straight right hands, and if Ward doesn't react, well he'll payQuote:
Originally Posted by TaethYou are only open if you are getting hit, how many times have Roy JOnes Jr, Mayweather, Whitaker, Hopkins looked open because they've had their hands down, only to be impossible to hit. Ward was so much faster than Miranda he could get away with it, I doubt he would be that open against Dirrell.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleshonestly wasn't too impressed with Ward against Miranda, he was open to the right all night long, and unlike Miranda i think Dirrell will capitalize on it and make him pay dearlyQuote:
Originally Posted by TigerFan
i've seen plenty of Ward's fights and he's hardly as elusive as Jones Jr or Whitaker, and in no way does he have the defensive skill as Hopkins, i'd say put him in with Dirrell later on, but they should get him in against solid world level competition to smooth out the rough edges, i think he has a good future but right now, i'm not so sure that he's ready for the big boys, same thing goes for Dirrell
I just read over on Dan Rapheals chat on ESPN that he doesnt think this fight will happen. He said its too early in there careers and it will be a big money fight if they wait later on to fight.
Just his opinion but I wouldn't be surprised if it didn't happen right now either. Makes more sense if they did it down the road.
Not to make excuses but Green did fight Miranda right after his surgery. I believe he had 80% of his colon removed. He needed to make money shortly after and took the fight with Miranda if I am not mistaken.Quote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
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Originally Posted by Galaxy
I do think this should sit a little bit longer,let these two clean house of this division and have a ridiculous payday for both.
I'm not saying he has Bernard's defensive skills, yet but Bernard wasn't always as good defensively as he became, he was always good, but he became exceptional defensively.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesit's not the only fight that he's done it, and Ward's not the fastest fighter either, he has good speed but nothing out of this world, Miranda didn't capitalize cause the only right hand he throws is a wicked, but easily telegraphed, overhand right, Green and Dirrell both have good straight right hands, and if Ward doesn't react, well he'll payQuote:
Originally Posted by TaethYou are only open if you are getting hit, how many times have Roy JOnes Jr, Mayweather, Whitaker, Hopkins looked open because they've had their hands down, only to be impossible to hit. Ward was so much faster than Miranda he could get away with it, I doubt he would be that open against Dirrell.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
i've seen plenty of Ward's fights and he's hardly as elusive as Jones Jr or Whitaker, and in no way does he have the defensive skill as Hopkins, i'd say put him in with Dirrell later on, but they should get him in against solid world level competition to smooth out the rough edges, i think he has a good future but right now, i'm not so sure that he's ready for the big boys, same thing goes for Dirrell
Agreed. And One thing about Ward is he made sure when Miranda hit him with the left he was keeping his feet unplanted. And despite the great performance Ward wasn't even satisfied in himself, he seems to always want to get better so I'd expect him to look even better the next time out.Quote:
Originally Posted by TaethYou are only open if you are getting hit, how many times have Roy JOnes Jr, Mayweather, Whitaker, Hopkins looked open because they've had their hands down, only to be impossible to hit. Ward was so much faster than Miranda he could get away with it, I doubt he would be that open against Dirrell.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoraleshonestly wasn't too impressed with Ward against Miranda, he was open to the right all night long, and unlike Miranda i think Dirrell will capitalize on it and make him pay dearlyQuote:
Originally Posted by TigerFan
i think both Ward and Dirrell have good futures ahead of them, just don't want to see the same mistake that was made with Angulo, and have them rushed and then maybe pay for it drastically, i mean we don't know if Angulo will be able to bounce back and become something, but no doubt the loss is gonna take it's toll
The difference is these two have loads of talent Angulo was going to fail from the start, he is too slow, too ordinary. He is basically an even slower version of Margarito with a way lower output.
have you seen what the jr middle division has to offer? :-\ not much, and he makes up for his lack of speed with power and his chin, i've been saying that Angulo was gonna lose soon enough, but IMO he's not the type of fighter to just fold after one loss, Ward does, and on that note i'm off for the nightQuote:
Originally Posted by Taeth
I think Green is the most dangerous of the three because he has KO power in both hands--someting the others don't have--though they have solid technical skills. To me, Dirrell-Green is the fight I'd like to see.