He only weighed in at a 156 pounds against Judah, Cotto wieghed more against Paulie when he fought at 140!.
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He only weighed in at a 156 pounds against Judah, Cotto wieghed more against Paulie when he fought at 140!.
I watch a Clottey fight, I think it was Corrales and the announcer said against Judah he was 160 lbs? Against Corrales he was 170 lbs
YouTube - Joshua Clottey Vs Diego Corrales Part 1
It was HBO that had him down at 156 on their unofficial weigh-in.
Clottey standing infront of Margacheato and hold his own... Cotto didn't do it against Margo specially in the early rounds... Clottey could be the bigger man than Cotto...
So how will it affect the upcoming fight with Cotto?
Cotto steps into the ring at 154-156 ish, Clottey Steps in at 160-170 ish....:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by reinvaldez
ah... the bigger the difference the bigger the effect.
Being the bigger man means you could be the bigger puncher as well as taking shots better. The reason we have weightclasses.
but he was easily outboxing Margarito for the first 6 rnds straight, IMO i had Cotto ahead of Tony by the time of the stoppage, and that's the difference, he won't have to stand in front of Clottey to outbox him now will he, plus Clottey is HARDLY an offensive type fighter, he waits and likes to counter, if it comes to who's the better counter puncher sorry but IMO Cotto wins there also, Cotto to win by a comfortable UD or 10th rnd TKO, from a left to the bodyQuote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxer
I am still under the impression that Clottey is an overhyped fighter. I really don't think he stand's a chance against Cotto even at a higher weight but I guess that's the reason they fight. He has shown decent skill but I don't think he is a champion caliber fighter that's always been my opinion but again I guess we will see Saturday.
I think Clottey is going to get hit with everything but the kitchen sink. Cotto is obviously the better boxer and puncher but Clottey seems to have an iron chin and great stamina. I could see Clottey wearing down Cotto who can fade in the later rounds. I think this is a great fight and cant wait. I will say Cotto by decision but I think there can be quite a few other endings that happen...
Cant wait to crack open a beer and watch this one!
Clottey is a strong fighter with solid D. However, he'll need to be more active to beat Cotto. He needs to test Cotto's chin as much as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fightfan
Cotto didn't look himself in his last match even though it was against Jennings. Also, Arum chose the opponents carefully for the Pavlik and Cotto come back fights. That Pavlik fought a top ten opponent and Cotto fought a fighter who no one had ever heard of may be indicative of something...
Well he is known here in the UK but it was just a payday for Jennings and Cotto got the vacant WBO title in a winnable fight, it was a suitable fight after suffering such a loss I think.Quote:
Originally Posted by RantcatratClottey is a strong fighter with solid D. However, he'll need to be more active to beat Cotto. He needs to test Cotto's chin as much as possible.Quote:
Originally Posted by The Fightfan
Cotto didn't look himself in his last match even though it was against Jennings. Also, Arum chose the opponents carefully for the Pavlik and Cotto come back fights. That Pavlik fought a top ten opponent and Cotto fought a fighter who no one had ever heard of may be indicative of something...
Since when did Cotto step into the ring at 154ish? He didn't do that when he was fighting at 140. He definitely steps in at 160+ these days. As for their fights with Margarito, Clottey didn't really stand his ground, and his resolve didn't last as long as Cotto's, I just think he had better durability, that has only a small correlation with size. Cotto was more powerful than Mosley when they fought, but look at both their fights against Margarito.Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyCotto steps into the ring at 154-156 ish, Clottey Steps in at 160-170 ish....:confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by reinvaldez
ah... the bigger the difference the bigger the effect.
I can also see Cotto taking the early rounds by boxing Clottey and moving/bouncing a lot all over the ring... Clottey will always pressure Cotto by constantly moving forward with his arms in high tight defensive guard... Clottey will mostly throws counterpunches, fast stinging combos from a high guard defense when he has a chance to catch Cotto infront of him... I predict Cotto will tire first because of the constant movement/bouncing in the early rounds then he will be forced to stand there toe-to-toe with Clottey and this is where Clottey will pick him up, probably landing a brutal uppercut since Cotto is susceptible to uppercuts during infighting...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesbut he was easily outboxing Margarito for the first 6 rnds straight, IMO i had Cotto ahead of Tony by the time of the stoppage, and that's the difference, he won't have to stand in front of Clottey to outbox him now will he, plus Clottey is HARDLY an offensive type fighter, he waits and likes to counter, if it comes to who's the better counter puncher sorry but IMO Cotto wins there also, Cotto to win by a comfortable UD or 10th rnd TKO, from a left to the bodyQuote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxer
Clottey's open to the body while having his earmuffs on, and IMO not as quick nor as sharp as Cotto, hasn't had the quality opponents eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerI can also see Cotto taking the early rounds by boxing Clottey and moving/bouncing a lot all over the ring... Clottey will always pressure Cotto by constantly moving forward with his arms in high tight defensive guard... Clottey will mostly throws counterpunches, fast stinging combos from a high guard defense when he has a chance to catch Cotto infront of him... I predict Cotto will tire first because of the constant movement/bouncing in the early rounds then he will be forced to stand there toe-to-toe with Clottey and this is where Clottey will pick him up, probably landing a brutal uppercut since Cotto is susceptible to uppercuts during infighting...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesbut he was easily outboxing Margarito for the first 6 rnds straight, IMO i had Cotto ahead of Tony by the time of the stoppage, and that's the difference, he won't have to stand in front of Clottey to outbox him now will he, plus Clottey is HARDLY an offensive type fighter, he waits and likes to counter, if it comes to who's the better counter puncher sorry but IMO Cotto wins there also, Cotto to win by a comfortable UD or 10th rnd TKO, from a left to the bodyQuote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxer
Clottey got faster hands than Cotto... Cotto can work the body but taking some risk catching the fast stinging counterpunch combos from Clottey... Look for the uppercut to catch Cotto... Foot movement goes to Cotto tho...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesClottey's open to the body while having his earmuffs on, and IMO not as quick nor as sharp as Cotto, hasn't had the quality opponents eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerI can also see Cotto taking the early rounds by boxing Clottey and moving/bouncing a lot all over the ring... Clottey will always pressure Cotto by constantly moving forward with his arms in high tight defensive guard... Clottey will mostly throws counterpunches, fast stinging combos from a high guard defense when he has a chance to catch Cotto infront of him... I predict Cotto will tire first because of the constant movement/bouncing in the early rounds then he will be forced to stand there toe-to-toe with Clottey and this is where Clottey will pick him up, probably landing a brutal uppercut since Cotto is susceptible to uppercuts during infighting...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
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Clottey isn't faster than Cotto, and he's not as good of a counter puncher either, he's gonna be in that little shell of his most the fight, waiting for opportunities that will never comeQuote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerClottey got faster hands than Cotto... Cotto can work the body but taking some risk catching the fast stinging counterpunch combos from Clottey... Look for the uppercut to catch Cotto... Foot movement goes to Cotto tho...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesClottey's open to the body while having his earmuffs on, and IMO not as quick nor as sharp as Cotto, hasn't had the quality opponents eitherQuote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxer
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IMO Clottey got faster hands and good in throwing combos... I think Clottey the bigger man too...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesClottey isn't faster than Cotto, and he's not as good of a counter puncher either, he's gonna be in that little shell of his most the fight, waiting for opportunities that will never comeQuote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerClottey got faster hands than Cotto... Cotto can work the body but taking some risk catching the fast stinging counterpunch combos from Clottey... Look for the uppercut to catch Cotto... Foot movement goes to Cotto tho...Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
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Clottey has an awesome frame and is durable with nice tight guard.But he does not effort to use his physical advantages....his mind wanders.....and faster Cotto will be clipping him but must keep that slide movement up.He backed straight and literally sat on the ropes vs. Tony.Clottey can be out maneuvered and waits around too much.
I think Clottey's biggest problem in this fight will be the fact that I don't think that he has the power to bother Cotto.
Thats why Clottey always gets gassed in the middle rounds, until he catches a second wind. He has been cutting weight like this since the Margarito fight, maybe longer. He walks around 170ish I think.
So you think he has the power, I'm confused? Double negative got me f'ed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Lol, I meant to say that I don't think he has the power to bother Cotto. I don't know how I managed to screw that up. It's a gift I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by No ContestSo you think he has the power, I'm confused? Double negative got me f'ed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
I think Clottey has the power to bother him, but i think Cotto will be too quick with his combinations.. stick and move.. I see Cotto pulling this out but wouldn't be surprised if Clottey lands something big.. Left hook maybe?..Quote:
Originally Posted by CFHLol, I meant to say that I don't think he has the power to bother Cotto. I don't know how I managed to screw that up. It's a gift I suppose.Quote:
Originally Posted by No ContestSo you think he has the power, I'm confused? Double negative got me f'ed up.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Cotto may just come out and box his ears off, if he learned his lesson in the Margarito fight. Cotto is the better boxer but Clottey isnt sloppy like Margarito. Cant wait for this fight.
Cotto was weight drained at 140.
I'm sure since he started at 147, he has weighed more around the 155 area on fight night.
When Cotto fought Margarito, they looked weightclasses apart.
That wasn't the case with Clottey
Clottey has faster hands. He throws 4 to 6 punch combos most of the time. He's got the advantage fighting inside. Cotto should win if keeps his distance and use his excellent footwork.