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Cotto started off like a steam engine but even miguel was shocked at clotteys power and punch resiliance.
Through 9-10 i had clottey taking the fight and can imagine your regular cotto fan had their hearts in their mouths at that point.
But miguel pulled it out the bag late on and i had the knockdown being the decisive factor in the fight.
Cotto 114-113 Clottey
Cotto 114-113.
I could also agree with 115-112 Cotto or Clottey with the same scores.
Close fight.
115-112 Cotto for me. Like I said in another thread, I had it 85-85 going into the 10th, and Clottey lost the last 3 rounds on my card. Some of the rounds were very close though. People screaming robbery in a close fight is beyond me.
114-113 Cotto for me as well, Clottey falling asleep in the last three rounds did it for him.
115 - 113 Cotto.
I haven't seen the fight since this morning and didn't do a clear RBR but those are the kinds of scores I think I would go with. It was a close fight and going into the 11th I really wasn't sure if Cotto had anything left.Quote:
Originally Posted by Pugilistic
The cut was the main factor in the swing IMO. Cotto wasn't really being hit with anything big until the vision became impaired and he couldn't see Clottey's right which began to land at will.
Decent fight.
ok just downloaded the fight and watched it with my new 10mb broadband ;D
heres my scorecard
Cotto Clottey
rd1 10 8
rd2 9 10
rd3 10 10
rd4 10 9
rd5 9 10
rd6 10 9
rd7 9 10
rd8 9 10
rd9 9 10
rd10 10 10
rd11 10 10
rd12 10 9
115 each
I had Cotto winning by a point (114-113)
Clottey had a great fight until he started looking for fouls, I can't STAND that shit. I hope he never gets a big fight again.
Clottey-Cotto 114-113
I think cotto def deserved to win, he changed and adapted to his cut. Clottey although tough as nails, failed to adapt and take advantage when he really should have.
114-113 Cotto. The 12th round was crucial for both fighters cuz I had it even in my scorecard after the 11th. My card was very similar to Lederman's.
forgot my score
Cotto
115-113
114-114 draw. 6 rounds Clottey, 5 rounds Cotto, 1 even, Take a point from Clotty for the knockdown. I was pretty much agreeing with how Steward had it up until his emotions got the better of him. Cant fault him for that though, thats why I like him, he honest about it. Didnt agree with the Lederman card as usual, though all in all HBO did a nice job, and as much as I dont like him, credit to Kellerman for a job well done last night.
I gave Cotto the fight by 1 point
114-113 is how I scored it due to the knockdown in the first.
Robbery no way, how would my reaction been if Clottey won the fight?
I would have said he earned it,
Thhis was a fight that either man could have won and rounds were so close, IMO it was the last couple of rounds that won it for Cotto....
114-113 either way really, have seen it twice and have seen it both ways.
Clottey appeared the better fighter, he won his rounds more clearly (except for obviously the sixth) but its not just about that, he gave away some rounds and obviously the knockdown was huge.
Amazing how nearly all of us have come to the conclusion of 114-113 cotto yet not a single pro judge scored it for that last night!
As for the guy that scored it 115-115
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RD 1:10-8 Cotto
RD 2:10-9 Clottey
RD 3:10-9 Cotto
RD 4:10-9 Cotto
RD 5:10-9 Clottey
RD 6:10-9 Cotto
RD 7:10-9 Clottey
RD 8:10-9 Clottey
RD 9:10-9 Clottey
RD 10:10-9 Clottey
RD 11:10-9 Cotto
RD 12:10-9 Cotto
rounds 2 and 10 were very close, but I gave it to Clottey. Round 3 was very close, but I gave it to Cotto.
seen the fight twiceQuote:
Originally Posted by "The L.A. Earthquake"
last night i had it 114-113 Cotto, today i have it 115-113 Cotto, Clottey put up a good fight but he let it go by giving up the last 3 rnds, plain stupid of him to think he was that ahead anyways
I was drunk need to see a replay :p. Seemed like Cotto just barely pulled it off with the last rounds though. He showed some good determination fighting with that huge cut, he made Robert Guerrero look like a straight up bitch;D. He obviously learned his lesson from the Margarito fight, and boxed and moved, and kept a higher output.
You serious? He didnt have to look for them they were pretty clear fouls. Cotto had about 3 good fouls, low blows(a few times), hit Clottey blatantly behind the head, and also pushed him in the back to the ground. That was a wwf move. Him acting like it hurt more than it did was just a ploy to get points deducted, ala B-Hop in the Calzaghe fight. But they were fouls, and could have been point deductions from a strict ref.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
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Originally Posted by hattonthehammer
why because i scored a couple of rounds even, they were close rounds that
could have gone either way u fucking vagina declining halfwit :homo2:
honestly though, Clottey getting slammed onto the ground was more his doing than anything, he was leaping up and trying to clinch Cotto, hell he was halfway up his back for godsake lol, Cotto just shoved him off, then Clottey tried his hand at acting lol ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by No ContestYou serious? He didnt have to look for them they were pretty clear fouls. Cotto had about 3 good fouls, low blows(a few times), hit Clottey blatantly behind the head, and also pushed him in the back to the ground. That was a wwf move. Him acting like it hurt more than it did was just a ploy to get points deducted, ala B-Hop in the Calzaghe fight. But they were fouls, and could have been point deductions from a strict ref.Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
Well I tried to judge the fight as unbiasedly as possible, and I had it 114-113 for Cotto last night, rewatched it today, and could have easily made an argument for 115-112 for Cotto. Reading around the boxing websites, I was seeing many writers giving it to Cotto by 115-112 and even a few 116-111. And of course, there were a couple that scored it for Clottey by 114-113, but most did score it for Cotto.
Obviously, I'm proud of Cotto for showing what a true champion is made of. He continues to show his heart, and his will. So naturally today I'm feeling like......
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Cotto has his flaws obviously, but his vulnerability, his heart, his humbleness, and his willingness to take the tough fights, is why I like him so much.
All I have to say to the doubters, and the haters, who all said that Margacheato stole Cotto's heart, and that he lost is will, is............
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I want to give a special shout out to my friend JT Rock. Thanks for chatting with me before the fight, you helped calm my nerves, and in turn, I was glad to help calm you down after the fight. You're a true friend. :-*
I watched it two more times and had it 114-113 for Cotto both times. The first time I watched it I didn't score but had the feeling the fight could have gone to either.
I think Cotto edged the win, but if they gave to Clottey (no chance of that in MSG) I couldn't see how people can complain.
commentators kept mentioning the similarities of Margo vs Cotto but it seemed a lot more like Mosely vs Cotto in that Cotto maintained his ground in the early rounds and chose to box and run in the late rounds.
If one fighter was KD even if he was winning the round would you consider it a 10-8 round automatically?
I have to agree with the draw or maybe even a 1 point Cotto win. But Cotto should have been deducted a point when he threw Clottey down. Was it a case of the referree being scared to be blamed for the possible loss of a fight in a fighter's hometown?
114-113 Clottey.
There were a lot of close rounds though, so I don't have a problem with Cotto getting the decision.
I had it 116-111 Cotto. It seems no one else (bar 1 of the judges) had it this wide though. I scored rounds 1,2,3,4,6,10,11,12 for Cotto.
I thought Clottey just didnt do enough punching and took periods off in a lot of rounds, apart from the middle of the fight where he took charge. Also for my money Cotto was the ring general a lot of the time on his toes with Clottey following him around but not cutting off the ring. I think others perceiving that as effective pressure by Clottey is where our scores differ. I really do believe anyone scoring the fight for Clottey is totally wrong. I can see a draw as possible if you gave round 1 as a 10-9 (which I dont think it is).