Cotto grappling Clottey, is it intentional? is it a foul? Was Clottey acting hurt or was he really hurt?
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Cotto grappling Clottey, is it intentional? is it a foul? Was Clottey acting hurt or was he really hurt?
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It was nothing. Neither. Ref made the right call. Ref did an outstand job the whole fight
a non issue unless you're a huge Clottey fan
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Originally Posted by OumaFan
Clottey looks dead after Cotto body slam him and many people here said Clottey was just acting... Do you think that body slam gonna hurt or not??
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Never seen a dead person roll about with that type of facial expression before.Quote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Clottey looks dead after Cotto body slam him and many people here said Clottey was just acting... Do you think that body slam gonna hurt or not??
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Did I say "looks dead" ?? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by KelNever seen a dead person roll about with that type of facial expression before.Quote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Clottey looks dead after Cotto body slam him and many people here said Clottey was just acting... Do you think that body slam gonna hurt or not??
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Couldn't of hurt any worse than the punches he was taking from CottoQuote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Clottey looks dead after Cotto body slam him and many people here said Clottey was just acting... Do you think that body slam gonna hurt or not??
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Yea........Quote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerDid I say "looks dead" ?? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by KelNever seen a dead person roll about with that type of facial expression before.Quote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxer
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Originally Posted by KelYea........Quote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerDid I say "looks dead" ?? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Kel
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Who looks "deadlier" ;D , Hatton after KO'ed cold by PAC or Clottey after body slammed by Cotto ??
Cheers mate...;D
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Your going off topic now. You said "looks dead" your quoted on it?Quote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by KelYea........Quote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxer
Who looks "deadlier" ;D , Hatton after KO'ed cold by PAC or Clottey after body slammed by Cotto ??
Cheers mate...;D
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Mercante is awesome, toss up between him and Smoger as my favorite ref. That being said Clottey was very theatrical that night. Thought I was watching a soccer game with Clottey trying to draw the fouls. Proper place though, right close to broadway. Like others have said, if he was busier trying to fight rather than get the refs sympathy he may have won the fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Yep it's going off-topic... Now, back to the topic, is it intentional? is it a foul? was Clottey just acting?Quote:
Originally Posted by KelYour going off topic now. You said "looks dead" your quoted on it?Quote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by Kel
Who looks "deadlier" ;D , Hatton after KO'ed cold by PAC or Clottey after body slammed by Cotto ??
Cheers mate...;D
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there have been much worse than that without getting a point deduction. I don't even think a point deduction was right.
I remember Naz tackling some guy (cannot for the life of me remember who it was) and slamming him much worse than that and unless I'm mistaken he didn't get a point, much less a deduction.
Yeah Soto, that was much worse.Quote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Ricky Hatton was deducted by Ref Cortez for hitting the back of Floyd's head (actually Ricky's punch didn't even hit PBF, it hit the rope ;D )...
Guess, different refs, different judgements...
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Well, stay 'on topic' then. The Hatton pac fight has nothing to do with this fight/thread at all. There were no similar occurrancies at all.Quote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerYep it's going off-topic... Now, back to the topic, is it intentional? is it a foul? was Clottey just acting?Quote:
Originally Posted by KelYour going off topic now. You said "looks dead" your quoted on it?Quote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxer
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Clottey got up on Cotto's back, Cotto was pushing him off, and while he was pushing him off, Clottey's feet slipped on the advertising paint. Plain and simple.
I like how you conveniently use the clip that doesn't show that. :rolleyes:
Here's a clip that does show his feet slipping.
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You are going off topic again in your own thread! You are a proper nonce!Quote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxer
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Originally Posted by Diane
That's why it's being presented here for discussions.... No one accused Cotto of doing it intentionally, or forcing that it's a foul or saying Clottey was really hurt... It's still up for discussions...
BTW, good clip there...
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by the way he cried......i'd say this hurt a lot more....Quote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by KelYea........Quote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxer
Who looks "deadlier" ;D , Hatton after KO'ed cold by PAC or Clottey after body slammed by Cotto ??
Cheers mate...;D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O4qwBzJKrXY
Here's 2 clips side by side:
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Originally Posted by XaduBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
That's why it's being presented here for discussions.... No one accused Cotto of doing it intentionally, or forcing that it's a foul or saying Clottey was really hurt... It's still up for discussions...
BTW, good clip there...
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Hmmm, no one accused Cotto of doing it intentionally? :scratchchin:
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Originally Posted by XaduBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Clottey looks dead after Cotto body slam him and many people here said Clottey was just acting... Do you think that body slam gonna hurt or not??
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I don't know Diane, I unintentionally body slam people all the time. Last Christmas I got up to get a glass of water and ended up body slamming my Granny right into the Christmas tree. We all had a good chuckle about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DianeQuote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by Diane
That's why it's being presented here for discussions.... No one accused Cotto of doing it intentionally, or forcing that it's a foul or saying Clottey was really hurt... It's still up for discussions...
BTW, good clip there...
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Hmmm, no one accused Cotto of doing it intentionally? :scratchchin:
:smilie_pinoc:Quote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Clottey looks dead after Cotto body slam him and many people here said Clottey was just acting... Do you think that body slam gonna hurt or not??
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There's a few people here I would love to unintentionally body slam. ;) ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by CFHI don't know Diane, I unintentionally body slam people all the time. Last Christmas I got up to get a glass of water and ended up body slamming my Granny right into the Christmas tree. We all had a good chuckle about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by DianeQuote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxer
Hmmm, no one accused Cotto of doing it intentionally? :scratchchin:
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Originally Posted by XaduBoxer
Thats a great clip...Dianes.The other one doesn't seem to run all that fast:cwm13:
That was like some Gymkata move haha.Cotto did not forcibly slam him so much as he did not 'except' the clinch and it was all generated off of those gotdamn Logos that have seriously messed guys up in the past.
He obviously was not hurt.He put on a scene right out of 'Friday' and after some moments he continued.The leg was a none factor.
Are you coming on to me :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by DianeThere's a few people here I would love to unintentionally body slam. ;) ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by CFHI don't know Diane, I unintentionally body slam people all the time. Last Christmas I got up to get a glass of water and ended up body slamming my Granny right into the Christmas tree. We all had a good chuckle about it.Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane
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Originally Posted by CFHAre you coming on to me :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by DianeThere's a few people here I would love to unintentionally body slam. ;) ;DQuote:
Originally Posted by CFH
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What if I was? :lickish: ;D
I mean if it was Ref Joe Cortez, Cotto could have been deducted a point by comparing on how Cortez easily deducted a point on Hatton even if Hatton didn't really hit PBF at the back of his head...;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KelYou are going off topic again in your own thread! You are a proper nonce!Quote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxer
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I know it's not me, it's just the glamour and prestige of the Mod position that attracts the ladies. They've been flocking in droves ever since my name turned blue. Unfortunately, it seems to have the same affect on the fellas :-\.Quote:
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Originally Posted by CFHAre you coming on to me :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Diane
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What if I was? :lickish: ;D
Shades of WWE or ECW to me...he should have been deducted a point IMO or at least get a stern warning. But the referree did not (or did he).?
Funny thing is that it wasn't a grapple or bodyslam. Clottey lunged at Cotto to grab on and Cotto dipped and came up while trying to push Clottey back. In the process, Clottey legs went in an undesirable direction and he fell flat.
That is not Cotto's fault. Clottey lunging grab try was responsible for the whole thing so he has nobody to blame but himself. At no point did Cotto wrestle him down or ever grab him for that matter.
It was more like a typical boxing push to create distance. Its no biggie to me. It just happens that Clottey was in off balance position and made the push looked really violent.
It was no body slam by Cotto. It wasn't even close, or at least the intent for such cannot be visually supported. It was more like a failed attempt to clinch by Clottey, which was thwarted by Miguel's arm and body movements which then caused Clottey to lose balance, lose the support of his legs under him and fall. This then gave the slight impression of a slam.
The rest is theatrics that was Clottey's way to ease up on an embarassing situation on hand. Anybody who've slipped, with the potential to be laughed at, will do the same to avoid being the "clown" in this typical scenario. A purely instinctive move, but also can be stated that it too was visibly a matter of overdoing it on the part of Clottey.
if the ref was Joe Cortez he would have Dq'd Clottey on an accidental headbutt :rolleyes:, the guy needs to find a new job, he used to be a good ref, now he just makes an ass out of himselfQuote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxerI mean if it was Ref Joe Cortez, Cotto could have been deducted a point by comparing on how Cortez easily deducted a point on Hatton even if Hatton didn't really hit PBF at the back of his head...;)Quote:
Originally Posted by KelYou are going off topic again in your own thread! You are a proper nonce!Quote:
Originally Posted by XaduBoxer
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