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Pascal wins unanimous decision
I must admit, I am surprised. Diaconu's not exactly Roy Jones, but I thought he'd be too big for what I've always thought of as a fairly limited fighter in Pascal. I was wrong though, Pascal seems to be improving every outing and he now holds a belt at 175.
I thought he looked great against Froch so I knew he had class.
At least we now have a legit opponent for Chad Dawson, and maybe afterwards the winner can have Froch.
Imo Froch (who should be p4p number 7 in place of Donaire) now is unbeatable from 160 to 175.
I'm hoping he gets to retire Hopkins later in the year but failing that finishing what Andrade started against Bute would be a nice way to round out the year.
LOL Froch P4P? Seriously ? This is the guy that was being schooled until the 12th round against Taylor. Sure he won, but hes no way near the top 20 even. Hopkins schools him if they would fight this year
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Originally Posted by gest12645
No you are misunderstood, Carl 'the Cobra' Froch is the truth, he's unbeatable from 160 to 175 lbs.
Only Anthony 'The Man' Mundine gives him any trouble.
He would destroy Popkins.
Hope that clears it up for you.
froch was schooling taylor in the latter rounds.
Hopefully Pascal can establish himself as a top 175 so Dawson can have a natural rival. Anway its good to have a young champ in that divison.
It was a really enjoyable fight. My second proper look at Pascal actually, and apart from leaving his hands down too much seems to have a lot of good all round skills.
I felt the same as CFH. That Pascal would last the distance only to lose out on a close UD. I was hoping I was wrong though, because I think Pascal is a very gutsy fighter who is proving extremely watchable. I'm happy for him. I think him vs. Yusaf Mack would be a cracking tear up.
The only schooling Taylor and Froch would do is showing how solid professionals can have incredible fundamental flaws in their game!
Pascal to me is a guy who has all the tools in the world to be a A list fighter, but he fights like he's still a fanboy. One fight he wants to be Shane Mosley, then Floyd Mayweather, then Roy Jones Jr. He's all over the place. It's almost as if he's trying to be unorthodox just to be unorthodox.
Pascal is a kind of Judah to Dawson's Mayweather. Judah and Pascal have more tools... Dawson and Mayweather use theirs like they should be used.
Alot of people were saying Chad Dawson was avoiding Adrian Diaconu. I think this proves Chad Dawson would of beat Adrian Diaconu without much trouble. Chad Dawson vs Glen Johnson 2 is a must first, then fight Jean Pascal.Quote:
Originally Posted by CFH
Pascal should be a poker player, even in a fight his expression never changes at all.
And he looked good in the process. Pascal has the goods.
Pascal's body punching was a thing of beauty. He has gotten better overall IMO
6 Months ago if you asked me, i would have said froch and Pascal were over-rated tools. 6 months later I will say both are entertaining as hell and very decent fighters with tons of heart.
I'm not sold on Froch, but no way was he 'Schooled' infact he would've atleast been worth a draw with a 10-7 last round (which is what he would have got had Taylor survivedQuote:
Originally Posted by gest12645
IMO losing 8 rounds straight, and yes Froch lost 8 rnds straight, plus an extra point for the knockdown by Taylor in the 3rd, and there is no way possible Froch would have won or even gotten a draw, IMO he was getting a boxing lesson until Taylor tired, and was able to capatalize on it, and i applaud him for it, but he's hardly unbeatable from 168 on upQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HI'm not sold on Froch, but no way was he 'Schooled' infact he would've atleast been worth a draw with a 10-7 last round (which is what he would have got had Taylor survivedQuote:
Originally Posted by gest12645
Bernard Hopkins
Chad Dawson
Glen Johnson
Roy Jones Jr
Clinton Woods
Antonio Tarver
Zsolt Erdei
Hugo Hernan Garay
Jean Pascal
Juergen Braehmer
Pascal isn't that good. On boxrec (who's rankings are never wrong) he is number 9.
I'd have him about 4 or 5. Why is boxrec so shit at rankings?
I included links incase you need to fing out who soame of the people are.
Yeah, he actually slowed down the already much slower boxer! At first I just wanted Diaconu to knock Pascal's ass out so bad, but I gained a lot more respect for Pascal as the fight wore on. It was a little irritating when he held every time on the inside, but he can't really be blamed when Diaconu let him, and the ref never warned him.Quote:
Originally Posted by Deanrw
I think the fight was winnable for Diaconu, though. However, he and his corner seemed unable to adjust their fight plan. Seemed like Diaconu was so intent on knocking Pascal's head off that he missed the boat. After seeing the advantages in speed and movement Pascal had in the first round, it should have been Diaconu with the all out body attack. If he had done that, Diaconu would have had a much greater chance of catching him.
I think that the few times he shook Pascal up a litte actually hurt him, because it gave him more false hope that he could just catch him with one good head shot and end it.
I like a the thought of Pascal/Dawson, if Dawson gets past Johnson; which I have the feeling he will, but I'm definitely looking forward to a rematch with Diaconu too!
Very good win, was he tight at 168? I still think a Dawson would outbox him pretty easily.
If you think Taylor one all of the 1st 8 rounds you have lost any credibility in how to score a fight ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesIMO losing 8 rounds straight, and yes Froch lost 8 rnds straight, plus an extra point for the knockdown by Taylor in the 3rd, and there is no way possible Froch would have won or even gotten a draw, IMO he was getting a boxing lesson until Taylor tired, and was able to capatalize on it, and i applaud him for it, but he's hardly unbeatable from 168 on upQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG HI'm not sold on Froch, but no way was he 'Schooled' infact he would've atleast been worth a draw with a 10-7 last round (which is what he would have got had Taylor survivedQuote:
Originally Posted by gest12645
No way did Froch loose the first 8 rounds, when i watched it live on line i thought Froch was totally outboxed, but when i re watched it on TV, it was a very very close fight if Taylor would of survived that last round I think I had it Taylor by 1 point but thats with a 10-8 last round not 10-7 so like I say very close fight.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HIf you think Taylor one all of the 1st 8 rounds you have lost any credibility in how to score a fight ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesIMO losing 8 rounds straight, and yes Froch lost 8 rnds straight, plus an extra point for the knockdown by Taylor in the 3rd, and there is no way possible Froch would have won or even gotten a draw, IMO he was getting a boxing lesson until Taylor tired, and was able to capatalize on it, and i applaud him for it, but he's hardly unbeatable from 168 on upQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
The Pascal win is looking very good now.
I've only seen the fight once, but i thought it was something like 7 rounds to 1 to Jermain Taylor in the first 8 rounds. With Carl Froch winning the last 3 rounds or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HIf you think Taylor one all of the 1st 8 rounds you have lost any credibility in how to score a fight ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesIMO losing 8 rounds straight, and yes Froch lost 8 rnds straight, plus an extra point for the knockdown by Taylor in the 3rd, and there is no way possible Froch would have won or even gotten a draw, IMO he was getting a boxing lesson until Taylor tired, and was able to capatalize on it, and i applaud him for it, but he's hardly unbeatable from 168 on upQuote:
Originally Posted by BIG H
Even if it had gone to the scorecards it would of been reasonably close, because Jermain Taylor would of visited the canvas a 2nd time before he made the final bell. And that would of been a 3 point round, added to the 4 other rounds Carl Froch won.
seen the fight only once that being the actual night of the fight, but Taylor was well ahead going into the last round, although the tide was turning due to Taylor's stamina, i remember that if Taylor would have made it out of the final round he would have won by about 2 points, but Taylor CLEARLY won the early rounds and quite easily at that, Froch is no ring technicianQuote:
Originally Posted by ICBI've only seen the fight once, but i thought it was something like 7 rounds to 1 to Jermain Taylor in the first 8 rounds. With Carl Froch winning the last 3 rounds or so.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIG HIf you think Taylor one all of the 1st 8 rounds you have lost any credibility in how to score a fight ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Even if it had gone to the scorecards it would of been reasonably close, because Jermain Taylor would of visited the canvas a 2nd time before he made the final bell. And that would of been a 3 point round, added to the 4 other rounds Carl Froch won.
Watched this fight on a replay this mornin. Really quite enjoyed it and quite like Pascal too. Just wish he had a bit more power. Just seems to fall short of the knockout stuff...... He would be very very good if he had that.