What do u guys think? Who has the upper hand in this one,both are claiming niether one is worride bout their power. I think this fight will be an explosive brawl.
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What do u guys think? Who has the upper hand in this one,both are claiming niether one is worride bout their power. I think this fight will be an explosive brawl.
It's a tough fight but if Darchinyan pulls it off it will make Nonito Donaire at least top 5 p4p, maybe he even edges above Hopkins and Mosely
He might win. But I doubt Darchinyan gets the knock out. He might get knocked out himself if he goes for it
I've seen some Agbeko youTube fights. There's nothing special about him.
Love this one.Agbekos pressure will make or break him.I think he KO's Vic.I know he catches shots but Vic wont have that time to tap his gloves together and set traps.Hes not exactly hard to find as well.
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Originally Posted by Spicoli
If Agbeko knocks him out inside 5 rounds I wonder how that would affect the Ring standings?
Logically he would have to jump to 6 above Donaire because he would have both ko'd Darchinyan and in winning his title prior to that he would now have defeated twice as many world champs as Nonito too.
Bilbo. That aint possible. Why? Cuz Donaire is Darchinyan's conquerer.
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Originally Posted by Quinito
Indeed, Donaire has enjoyed a meteoric rise up the p4p rankings based soley on the achievements of Darchinyan since he beat him.
It stands to reason that if Donaire is the 7th best fighter in the sport purely because he beat Darchinyan (and not a single other world champ past or present) then Agbeko if he too beat Darchinyan would also have to leap above Darchinyan in the p4p rankings and based on the fact he then would have beaten twice as many world champions as Donaire (two) his resume would put him above Nonito too.
Then maybe Nonito and Agbeko could face off to see who is the p4p number 1 in the sport.
and there's something special about Cazares at SuperFlyweight?!? :confused:Quote:
Originally Posted by Quinito
None. Donaire should dispose Cazares inside 6 rounds.
Do you have Cotto ranked above Mosley in your P4P list?Quote:
Originally Posted by Quinito
LOL Bilbo has turned into such a spammer
Agbeko is pretty good. I look for this to be a good fight.
And slightly off topic but Cazares was a gigantic 108 pounder, he's really more naturally a 112 pounder at least, if Donaire just thinks he'll walk right through him that could be a tough fight. Size won't be the reason Donaire wins if he does IMO.
sorry but once you get beat by possibly the smallest champion in overall size today (Calderon), it doesn't matter how technically good he is, you shouldn't be considered a world beater just cause you move up in weight, Donaire should win inside 5 rounds, if it goes a round more than that it'll be a let down to be honestQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Cazares should of got the win in there first fight. The second was incomplete. Cazares will cuz Donaire problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralessorry but once you get beat by possibly the smallest champion in overall size today (Calderon), it doesn't matter how technically good he is, you shouldn't be considered a world beater just cause you move up in weight, Donaire should win inside 5 rounds, if it goes a round more than that it'll be a let down to be honestQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
i thought Calderon CLEARLY won the 1st fight, and won by 2 points, only due to the knockdown, if not it would have been a 3 point win for Calderon, and IMO he was outboxing Cazares a lot easier in the rematchQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseCazares should of got the win in there first fight. The second was incomplete. Cazares will cuz Donaire problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralessorry but once you get beat by possibly the smallest champion in overall size today (Calderon), it doesn't matter how technically good he is, you shouldn't be considered a world beater just cause you move up in weight, Donaire should win inside 5 rounds, if it goes a round more than that it'll be a let down to be honestQuote:
Originally Posted by OumaFan
Calderon is a pound for pound guy and a less controversial Pound 4 Pound selection than Donaire, no shame in that, more a credit to Calderon's skills than Cazares being a chump or something.
Since then he's beaten Roberto Vasquez at 115, I haven't seen that but unless Vasquez just looked shot to hell that's a good win.
Anyway Cazares is a big, strong guy, its not as big a deal for him to move up from 108 to 112 as it would be for some other guys.
I think we can safely say that Darchinyan has separated himself from his loss to Donaire. It is great what Donaire did to him. But Strength of schedule!!?? Vic is whooping Donaire's ass. Nonito need to pick up some more worthy opponents to be considered a better P4P fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Vic achievements henceforth are no longer propelling Donaire.. he needs to find a way to make his OWN legacy. Hell, I pick Vic in the rematch.
Go Vic!
Im rooting to Vic and think he will win. He is crafty enough to keep a single minded brawler off tempo (if that is what Abeko is ??? ) with the power to get his attention.
I think it will go the distance with Vic having his strongest rounds late in the fight and fairly wide Vic UD.
These assumptions are based on having never seen Abeko fight.
Glad people to see complaining about Donaire having his boxing accolades vicariously through Darchy's accomplishments over the past 2 years.
Go Vic!
Well, I think Darch will win by a UD or late stoppage, but I don't think that will matter because this fight will probably be canceled.
he's being sarcastic dude, basically everyone (aside from the nutthuggers) acknowledge that Donaire shouldn't be above Darcinyan right nowQuote:
Originally Posted by JonnyFoldsI think we can safely say that Darchinyan has separated himself from his loss to Donaire. It is great what Donaire did to him. But Strength of schedule!!?? Vic is whooping Donaire's ass. Nonito need to pick up some more worthy opponents to be considered a better P4P fighter.Quote:
Originally Posted by Bilbo
Vic achievements henceforth are no longer propelling Donaire.. he needs to find a way to make his OWN legacy. Hell, I pick Vic in the rematch.
Go Vic!
I scored it 115-113 for Cazares. He landed the harder punches and was the one forcing the action. Round 8 should of been scored 10-7. The knock down that was ruled a slip was legit.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMoralesi thought Calderon CLEARLY won the 1st fight, and won by 2 points, only due to the knockdown, if not it would have been a 3 point win for Calderon, and IMO he was outboxing Cazares a lot easier in the rematchQuote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseCazares should of got the win in there first fight. The second was incomplete. Cazares will cuz Donaire problems.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
Vic will stomp abeko, it won't get canceled with an injury vic would still win.
Lol! Bilbo could be right. Agbeko lessened Donaire's value win against Darchinyan therefor Donaire should no longer be on p4p list along with Darchinyan. Well let's see what the ring says.