In my personal opinion Eddie seems to be the more naturally talented fighter but Arreola carries the mexican fan base. What is everyone's thoughts?
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In my personal opinion Eddie seems to be the more naturally talented fighter but Arreola carries the mexican fan base. What is everyone's thoughts?
That's cuz Arreola style of fighting is more exciting than Chambers style fighting. Not to mention nobody really gives a fukk about Chambers
Nobody cares because he is not promoted right. Granted he would probably be an elite cruiserweight but it isn't the case. Head2Head I give Chambers a complete advantage but Arreola will get the first title shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I think Arreola knocks him out. I doubt Chambers can hurt him. But I'm sure Arreola can hurt him. The way Chambers lost against Povetkin showed he might not have the heart to be champion.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGTIMETIMMYNobody cares because he is not promoted right. Granted he would probably be an elite cruiserweight but it isn't the case. Head2Head I give Chambers a complete advantage but Arreola will get the first title shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Watch Arreola-Walker. When Walker boxed and stuck to the gameplan Arreola was in trouble. Chamber doesn't have one punch power but he would hit Arreola at will if he use his speed properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseI think Arreola knocks him out. I doubt Chambers can hurt him. But I'm sure Arreola can hurt him. The way Chambers lost against Povetkin showed he might not have the heart to be champion.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGTIMETIMMYNobody cares because he is not promoted right. Granted he would probably be an elite cruiserweight but it isn't the case. Head2Head I give Chambers a complete advantage but Arreola will get the first title shot.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
I saw Arreola-Walker. Walker never boxed in that fight. He just went at Arreola. His speed was what gave Arreola problems. Arreola brings to much pressure for Chambers. Watch Povetkin-Chambers and see how Chambers deals with pressureQuote:
Originally Posted by BIGTIMETIMMYWatch Arreola-Walker. When Walker boxed and stuck to the gameplan Arreola was in trouble. Chamber doesn't have one punch power but he would hit Arreola at will if he use his speed properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseI think Arreola knocks him out. I doubt Chambers can hurt him. But I'm sure Arreola can hurt him. The way Chambers lost against Povetkin showed he might not have the heart to be champion.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGTIMETIMMY
Walker never boxed??? He was giving Arreola all he could handle until he tried going toe-to-toe with him. Chamber has too much speed and accuracy for Arreola to deal with. I would love to see Chambers leave Goosen when he contract is up then he could be marketed right by a promotional company who needs a HW.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseI saw Arreola-Walker. Walker never boxed in that fight. He just went at Arreola. His speed was what gave Arreola problems. Arreola brings to much pressure for Chambers. Watch Povetkin-Chambers and see how Chambers deals with pressureQuote:
Originally Posted by BIGTIMETIMMYWatch Arreola-Walker. When Walker boxed and stuck to the gameplan Arreola was in trouble. Chamber doesn't have one punch power but he would hit Arreola at will if he use his speed properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent Demise
Of course he does.. chambers has already shown he doesn't have the heart or focus of a champ. Arreola hasn't really had a real shot at anything important yet. Who's most likely to beat one of the big K's ?? Maybe neither but i'd give chris the better chance and since right now that's all it's about he'd get more of my attention too.
Yea, but that only lasted for ONE round. Then he was knocked the * out.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGTIMETIMMYWatch Arreola-Walker. When Walker boxed and stuck to the gameplan Arreola was in trouble. Chamber doesn't have one punch power but he would hit Arreola at will if he use his speed properly.Quote:
Originally Posted by Violent DemiseI think Arreola knocks him out. I doubt Chambers can hurt him. But I'm sure Arreola can hurt him. The way Chambers lost against Povetkin showed he might not have the heart to be champion.Quote:
Originally Posted by BIGTIMETIMMY
Arreola is a better heavyweight and vastly more exciting. Straight up.
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Originally Posted by Violent Demise
You summed it up perfect mate.
Whiole Chambers is the overall more talentwed fighter easily Chris has the style that justifies the price of a ticket
#1 Arreola is a natural heavyweight and Chambers is like Chris Byrd (who might not be a bad trainer for Eddie)
#2 Arreola can knock pretty much anyone out and Eddie has to win on points which could be very difficult considering the size of the opponents he might face and where he would fight them.
It would be nice if either of them would get in shape 208 for Eddie is a good sign, a step in the right direction.
Chris Arreola looks like the Latino version of butterbean.
http://thebluecorner.files.wordpress...1/arreola1.jpg
http://www.mmaweekly.com/absolutenm/...Butterbean.jpg
No, I still say Proboscis Monkey
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gA7ZPaUMbrw
Well Eddie just proved tonight he is the best american Heavyweight.
Both are bloated and receiving too much hype.But thats where it ends.Arreola can actually fight .Butterball is a genuine circus creation :jester-new:Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Think Chambers gives him fits early but is slow on feet and too content-relaxed to disway Chris when it counts.Bad night for eddie
Amazing how everyones opinion will change after today. If Chambers keeps coming in light he may be the best american heavyweight. Him, Arreola, And Haye should fight each other.
You should lump Povetkin in that group too
If you wanna get incredibily basic with butterbean, the fact is as much of a entertainer and hype he got it was do to the fact he would fight anyone, he could punch a hole through someone and he has tremendous heart and will.. Thats what they want to see in a gladiator type.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliBoth are bloated and receiving too much hype.But thats where it ends.Arreola can actually fight .Butterball is a genuine circus creation :jester-new:Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Think Chambers gives him fits early but is slow on feet and too content-relaxed to disway Chris when it counts.Bad night for eddie
I loved to watch butterbean do his thing, becuase he would fight you if you had a baseball bat, he just didnt care...
....and amazingly you don't like Wladimir Klitschko :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
Butterbean NEVER EVER sniffed his way through a fight, ever!!!! and bet your a$$ if the guy had someone in trouble he wouldnt turn into a jabaholic best believe there would be a decapitation happening:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle....and amazingly you don't like Wladimir Klitschko :rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
Sorry man you walked into the helicopter blade on that one
I hear you man.He did what he could with what he had .Its always burned me up seeing his azz on numerous PPV cards:furious2:;D.Dont think they wanted him fighting serious guys,thats why they restricted him to 4 rounds.Sad to say but I rewatched an old tough man tournament a month ago that I....cough-hack-cough....recorded and they "fought" the bouts back to back.One right after the other within a matter of hours.Crazy shite indeed.Butterbean got the crisco beat out of him and lost to a Scotty Biskner in the final.Quote:
Originally Posted by JT RockIf you wanna get incredibily basic with butterbean, the fact is as much of a entertainer and hype he got it was do to the fact he would fight anyone, he could punch a hole through someone and he has tremendous heart and will.. Thats what they want to see in a gladiator type.Quote:
Originally Posted by SpicoliBoth are bloated and receiving too much hype.But thats where it ends.Arreola can actually fight .Butterball is a genuine circus creation :jester-new:Quote:
Originally Posted by generalbulldog
Think Chambers gives him fits early but is slow on feet and too content-relaxed to disway Chris when it counts.Bad night for eddie
I loved to watch butterbean do his thing, becuase he would fight you if you had a baseball bat, he just didnt care...
....yet it's hard to believe that Butterbean never sniffed a title either ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
I made sure I saved my 8000 post to tell you that doing pull ups on Wlad Klits jimmy is no way to go thru life son:rolleyes:Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle....yet it's hard to believe that Butterbean never sniffed a title either ;)Quote:
Originally Posted by JT Rock
Thank you for being synonymous with this milestone
That is all;)
You should have just saved that post for declaring your love of Butterbean :shakehead:
The sooner you brace yourself for Wlad getting exposed for the 3rd time the better. Trust me on thatQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
He isint a Hall of famer, hasnt beaten a hall of fame worthy opponent.
You rake on Tyson but at least he beat an older Larry Holmes for goodness sakes and got some decent comp in there not to mention went on to be a polarizing figure
Nothing wrong for rooting for Arreola Lyle, he is atleast a citizen of this country which you are zealous over ;D
When a CLASS American Heavyweight hits the scene, I'll be the first one there paying my respects.
Cris Arreola has some boxing skill, he doesn't like using it, and although he hits hard he takes lots of punishment and has been hurt by very limited fighters....he stands a poor chance vs a true boxer and even poorer chance when that boxer can either take a punch or punch back.
I don't hate Arreola, I don't like his chances vs Wladimir or Vitali given his previous results though. He's better than Butterbean, I'll give you that
So by your rational if Wladimir KO'd Evander Holyfield he'd be a Hall of Famer???
I just think it's a sad day for the American heavyweights when Arreola and Chambers are being touted as the future of the American heavyweights.
That's how bad the HW division is for America.
Chambers could and probably should beat Arreola. Doesn't mean he would though, obviously he's got some issues.
Though clearly Arreola is what more fans look for in a heavyweight.
Sad to say but Larry was still very competitive at an advanced age more so than Evander, Larry was crafty and like Bhop could slow the pace of a fight more to his tempo, albeit he wasnt as successful as Hop but it prevented him from getting terribly embarrassedQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
He got Ko'd by a prime Tyson
Gave a prime Holyfield all he could handle
Beat Mercer
Lost by a round or two against Oliver Mccall
I know you grasp at times but you know that Larry was better than Evander at this juncture
As far as Arreola, we dont know how good he could be, he definetly has boxing skill and dosent utilize it since he has been able to assurt his will through applying pressure and determination. No one has the pure boxing skill as Klitschko and will not win that battle. the guy who beats Wladimir is going to be a decent enough boxer who can pick his spots and apply intelligent aggression and pressure. Arreola has excellent power, heart and determination. IF he is able to apply the above technique than he will derail Klitschko.
Everyone knows he is a Fat tattooed slob that likes to where pink trunks, but he has a coolness and composure to go with a blue collar down to earthness that people like to rally behind
Evander basically beat Nicolay Valuev and other than that hasn't been given any chances. But seriously, what you're saying is basically there is NOBODY boxing right now that Wladimir can beat to become a Hall of Famer...I disagree with that whole heartedly.
Wladimir deserves some respect, it doesn't matter about whether you like his style or not he has done a lot in the sport 53 wins and 47 KO's...that's nothing to sneeze at.
I think if Arreola, Haye, Povetkin, and Chambers are able to hold their own vs the top level of the division, Wlad should be given full credit when he beats them.
Holyfield got screwed I agree.. Best thing for his health thoughQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
As far as the above referenced names.. Klit better run the table against all of them to be hall worthy since he dosent have a nemesis on the same path as him... Check that he does but he would rather exchange xmas presents and have turkey dinner instead of fighting him;D
Who are you talking about man??? It can't be Haye because he's the one who punked out of that fight for some unknown reason.
No, I was talking about his brotherQuote:
Originally Posted by Lyle