Was Ricky Hatton weight Drain at 140?

I'm hearing this excuse on why he lost his last fight in brutal fashion was that he was weight drain at 140. The Hatton fans are saying that it was Ricky Hatton's eating habits and balooning in weight so much and then taking it down affected his performance and that he looked drain.

So was Ricky Hatton weight drain or is this an excuse by his beloved fans after they predicted an ko in favor of their man but it was the reversed?

Discuss.

Does'nt matter guys he got the shit kicked out of him and this arguement only proves that not only does PAC punch better than hatton but trains better than him too. Look PAC had a ton of excuses too, his mom there for the first time, no authentic philipino food in the u.s . Blah blah PAC's only real problem right now is them fucked up tatto's. C'mon PAC let my little cousin hook you up

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

I'm hearing this excuse on why he lost his last fight in brutal fashion was that he was weight drain at 140. The Hatton fans are saying that it was Ricky Hatton's eating habits and balooning in weight so much and then taking it down affected his performance and that he looked drain.

So was Ricky Hatton weight drain or is this an excuse by his beloved fans after they predicted an ko in favor of their man but it was the reversed?

Discuss.

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Noway was he weight drained the guy has never not made 140 first time stepping on the scales in his life, all bullshit he just got smashed by a fast powerful amazing fighter, Hatton doesnt live the life of a top athlete. You cant get away with that when you are fighting the best of the best.

Hatton and his dick head team always have excuses for everything, he basically wasnt good enough.

I think having to lose several stone before a fight cant be beneficial. It had to have a negative effect . He certainly didnt seem like the same Hatton in his last fight who walked through Tszyus shots all those years ago. After the KO defeat to Floyd he looked vulnerable vs a washed up Lazcano so his best days are behind him. He could fight Khan in 1 last fight but I think he is so badly washed up that I doubt he could even beat him these days

Never really rated Hatton TBH. I think he has achived any greatness he is likley to achieve. The only time he looked good in America was vs Castillo. Years of absuing his body has taken its toll.

What's there to discuss?!? Hatton's natural weight was 140... he got KTFO'ed at 140. His lack of boxing skills and defense were embarassingly exposed against a much superior fighter. He claimed to be fighting for the world's p4p title, when in actuality he shouldn't have been anywhere near the same ring as Pacquiao. Weight drained my ass.

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

I'm hearing this excuse on why he lost his last fight in brutal fashion was that he was weight drain at 140. The Hatton fans are saying that it was Ricky Hatton's eating habits and balooning in weight so much and then taking it down affected his performance and that he looked drain.

So was Ricky Hatton weight drain or is this an excuse by his beloved fans after they predicted an ko in favor of their man but it was the reversed?

Discuss.

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I'm a huge Hatton fan. Never heard this excuse. He's a 140 fighter. If he aint fighting at 140, he should probably retire because he can't compete with the top dogs at 147. Never in a million years should he have taken the Manny fight. I didn't see him winning. He doesn't deal well with Southpaws, and fighters with speed kill him, because he doesn't defend himself well. He lost because he wasn't good enough. I still don't think any less of him as a fighter though.

Making any weight is draining when you swell up like a dog tick between fights.

Seriously...

Yeah - I agree, he could have taken care of himself better in between fights.

But even if he was I dont think he really had a choice. He cant really compete at 47 with his skills and style...

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

I'm hearing this excuse on why he lost his last fight in brutal fashion was that he was weight drain at 140. The Hatton fans are saying that it was Ricky Hatton's eating habits and balooning in weight so much and then taking it down affected his performance and that he looked drain.

So was Ricky Hatton weight drain or is this an excuse by his beloved fans after they predicted an ko in favor of their man but it was the reversed?

Discuss.

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Funny all of a sudden he gets pole-axed at 140{where he was the self proclaimes untouchable KING there}and now he was weight drained.

I thought everyone was saying how good he initially came into camp looking; not all Fat Bastard looking like he usually did when going into pre fight training?

He just got owned; he never would have beat this version of Pac anywhere in his career. The fight didn't go long enough to have fatigue due to the 140 limit to make a difference anyways; he kept running into punches and falling down; weight wasn't the problem, stupidity and a ballooned up ego were.

But hy; he should go back to 147 so he can get KTFO a couple more times then say it was too high:rolleyes:

The answer is no. That is all.

No he was not. 140 he was at his best. Problem for him Manny Pacquiao at 140 was better.

I have never heard this excuse used before. Don't think it holds water for a fighter who has had almost all of his fight at 140. In fact I heard people saying how much of an advantage it was going to be for him, and how Pacquiao was going to have to deal with a real top tier 140 pound fighter.

I swear I've never heard so many excuses for losing as I've heard with Hatton.

His chin left him
unable to move up a division
Joe Cortez
his opponent cheated (used his elbows)
too much Guinness
weight drain
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If it wasn't for all of these things, he'd be an ATG for sure.

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

I'm hearing this excuse on why he lost his last fight in brutal fashion was that he was weight drain at 140. The Hatton fans are saying that it was Ricky Hatton's eating habits and balooning in weight so much and then taking it down affected his performance and that he looked drain.

So was Ricky Hatton weight drain or is this an excuse by his beloved fans after they predicted an ko in favor of their man but it was the reversed?

Discuss.

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i love ricky hatton, more than any other fighter since roberto duran, and i will defend him to the hills, but all these scenarios people are putton him in, for example, hatton had the wrong trainer, his mind wasnt right, he had a shit 2 days too late, the truth is he just couldnt cut it against the very best in the world. long live the hitman tho, he will always and 4eva occupy a place in my heart

ricky has been victim of his rhythm of life at the highest level of the competition. PErhaps that drinking a LOT and losing 40-50 pounds before a fight can work fine when you fight some good boxers, but when you hit the top of the elite and that you've done that repeatedly in your life.... it catches you up at some moment. That's what happened to Ricky, even harder because he has a very bad style (i.e not very defensive) to get exposed in an even bolder statment.

'Never heard that kind of excuse from Hatton fans. So far the majority of them blames Ricky himself for not following the game plan.

Well... whether Hatton was weight drained or not one thing is certain:
He shouldn't have been.

Because the British public are such mugs, his inability to act like an elite athlete (and his team's encouragement of him to act the way he did) might have won him lots of fans but it also stopped him from properly reaching his potential.

Honestly... the Mayweathers and Pacquios of the world don't give a fuck if you like to drink 12 pints and play darts with the lads down the pub. As far as his team were concerned though I'm sure making money/fans was a pretty big priority.

There was a program on around Christmas time about Hatton's life. I thought it would be interesting to watch his early amateur/gym footage etc... because despite having rants like this I do like the guy. I had to stop watching it though... his fucking dad going on about how 'normal' Ricky is was nauseating... could you possibly lay it on any fucking thicker mate?

Does his team (and the people stupid enough to buy into the image they were PUSHING) think that he is the only world level boxer out there who wouldn't rather be doing 'normal' things like chilling with his mates.

Do other boxers ride penny farthings around whilst throwing trouts at the public or something? What exactly makes Hatton more 'normal' than someone like Joe Calzaghe?

if he'd taken proper care (or even just tried a little outside of training camp, as opposed to not at all) of himself then he probably wouldn't be too far removed from the physicality he had when he fought Tyszu... and who knows if graham and hatton hadn't start to buy into their own hype that he could walk through a brick wall then maybe he would have been less undeveloped and a bit more refined when he needed to be.

Spending close to 100% of his camp getting fight fit would have been a lot better than spending 50% of his training camp shifting tens of pounds of dead weight and the other 50% getting fight fit.

Obviously he can live his life however he wants to bit is pisses me off to see what was a lot of god given ability go to relative waste.
Don't think he was weight drained, he just ruined himself and failed to step up his game/lifestyle when his level of opposition went up, not saying if he had he was a cert to beat these guys... I just know he could have been better.

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Well... whether Hatton was weight drained or not one thing is certain:
He shouldn't have been.

Because the British public are such mugs, his inability to act like an elite athlete (and his team's encouragement of him to act the way he did) might have won him lots of fans but it also stopped him from properly reaching his potential.

Honestly... the Mayweathers and Pacquios of the world don't give a fuck if you like to drink 12 pints and play darts with the lads down the pub. As far as his team were concerned though I'm sure making money/fans was a pretty big priority.

There was a program on around Christmas time about Hatton's life. I thought it would be interesting to watch his early amateur/gym footage etc... because despite having rants like this I do like the guy. I had to stop watching it though... his fucking dad going on about how 'normal' Ricky is was nauseating... could you possibly lay it on any fucking thicker mate?

Does his team (and the people stupid enough to buy into the image they were PUSHING) think that he is the only world level boxer out there who wouldn't rather be doing 'normal' things like chilling with his mates.

Do other boxers ride penny farthings around whilst throwing trouts at the public or something? What exactly makes Hatton more 'normal' than someone like Joe Calzaghe?

if he'd taken proper care (or even just tried a little outside of training camp, as opposed to not at all) of himself then he probably wouldn't be too far removed from the physicality he had when he fought Tyszu... and who knows if graham and hatton hadn't start to buy into their own hype that he could walk through a brick wall then maybe he would have been less undeveloped and a bit more refined when he needed to be.

Spending close to 100% of his camp getting fight fit would have been a lot better than spending 50% of his training camp shifting tens of pounds of dead weight and the other 50% getting fight fit.

Obviously he can live his life however he wants to bit is pisses me off to see what was a lot of god given ability go to relative waste.
Don't think he was weight drained, he just ruined himself and failed to step up his game/lifestyle when his level of opposition went up, not saying if he had he was a cert to beat these guys... I just know he could have been better.

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Well... whether Hatton was weight drained or not one thing is certain:
He shouldn't have been.

Because the British public are such mugs, his inability to act like an elite athlete (and his team's encouragement of him to act the way he did) might have won him lots of fans but it also stopped him from properly reaching his potential.

Honestly... the Mayweathers and Pacquios of the world don't give a fuck if you like to drink 12 pints and play darts with the lads down the pub. As far as his team were concerned though I'm sure making money/fans was a pretty big priority.

There was a program on around Christmas time about Hatton's life. I thought it would be interesting to watch his early amateur/gym footage etc... because despite having rants like this I do like the guy. I had to stop watching it though... his fucking dad going on about how 'normal' Ricky is was nauseating... could you possibly lay it on any fucking thicker mate?

Does his team (and the people stupid enough to buy into the image they were PUSHING) think that he is the only world level boxer out there who wouldn't rather be doing 'normal' things like chilling with his mates.

Do other boxers ride penny farthings around whilst throwing trouts at the public or something? What exactly makes Hatton more 'normal' than someone like Joe Calzaghe?

if he'd taken proper care (or even just tried a little outside of training camp, as opposed to not at all) of himself then he probably wouldn't be too far removed from the physicality he had when he fought Tyszu... and who knows if graham and hatton hadn't start to buy into their own hype that he could walk through a brick wall then maybe he would have been less undeveloped and a bit more refined when he needed to be.

Spending close to 100% of his camp getting fight fit would have been a lot better than spending 50% of his training camp shifting tens of pounds of dead weight and the other 50% getting fight fit.

Obviously he can live his life however he wants to bit is pisses me off to see what was a lot of god given ability go to relative waste.
Don't think he was weight drained, he just ruined himself and failed to step up his game/lifestyle when his level of opposition went up, not saying if he had he was a cert to beat these guys... I just know he could have been better.

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Ditto that.

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

I'm hearing this excuse on why he lost his last fight in brutal fashion was that he was weight drain at 140. The Hatton fans are saying that it was Ricky Hatton's eating habits and balooning in weight so much and then taking it down affected his performance and that he looked drain.

So was Ricky Hatton weight drain or is this an excuse by his beloved fans after they predicted an ko in favor of their man but it was the reversed?

Discuss.

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Hatton groupies are some of the biggest idiots around. The only bigger idiots out there are the ones who actually believe what they say. Some think he can actually return and be champion at 140 again. What does that tell you?

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

I'm hearing this excuse on why he lost his last fight in brutal fashion was that he was weight drain at 140. The Hatton fans are saying that it was Ricky Hatton's eating habits and balooning in weight so much and then taking it down affected his performance and that he looked drain.

So was Ricky Hatton weight drain or is this an excuse by his beloved fans after they predicted an ko in favor of their man but it was the reversed?

Discuss.

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Hatton groupies are some of the biggest idiots around. The only bigger idiots out there are the ones who actually believe what they say. Some think he can actually return and be champion at 140 again. What does that tell you?

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I know, stupid isn't it. I read some fan say Casamayor still had it in him to school Edwin Valero. Some fans are just blinded by the past that they lose touch with reality. ;D

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Well... whether Hatton was weight drained or not one thing is certain:
He shouldn't have been.

Because the British public are such mugs, his inability to act like an elite athlete (and his team's encouragement of him to act the way he did) might have won him lots of fans but it also stopped him from properly reaching his potential.

Honestly... the Mayweathers and Pacquios of the world don't give a fuck if you like to drink 12 pints and play darts with the lads down the pub. As far as his team were concerned though I'm sure making money/fans was a pretty big priority.

There was a program on around Christmas time about Hatton's life. I thought it would be interesting to watch his early amateur/gym footage etc... because despite having rants like this I do like the guy. I had to stop watching it though... his fucking dad going on about how 'normal' Ricky is was nauseating... could you possibly lay it on any fucking thicker mate?

Does his team (and the people stupid enough to buy into the image they were PUSHING) think that he is the only world level boxer out there who wouldn't rather be doing 'normal' things like chilling with his mates.

Do other boxers ride penny farthings around whilst throwing trouts at the public or something? What exactly makes Hatton more 'normal' than someone like Joe Calzaghe?

if he'd taken proper care (or even just tried a little outside of training camp, as opposed to not at all) of himself then he probably wouldn't be too far removed from the physicality he had when he fought Tyszu... and who knows if graham and hatton hadn't start to buy into their own hype that he could walk through a brick wall then maybe he would have been less undeveloped and a bit more refined when he needed to be.

Spending close to 100% of his camp getting fight fit would have been a lot better than spending 50% of his training camp shifting tens of pounds of dead weight and the other 50% getting fight fit.

Obviously he can live his life however he wants to bit is pisses me off to see what was a lot of god given ability go to relative waste.
Don't think he was weight drained, he just ruined himself and failed to step up his game/lifestyle when his level of opposition went up, not saying if he had he was a cert to beat these guys... I just know he could have been better.

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Me too. Very good post, Adam. Pretty much spot on all the way through.

And I think Hatton was weight drained. It seems a lot of the rumours regarding Hattons camp did turn out to be true. Hatton drying out before the fight is probably no lie either. But no excuses, the fight was 6 minutes long. It wasn't as if Hattons stamina could be questioned. But all other aspects of his performance can be strutinised. So at the end of the day he probably was drained but it didn't have bearing on what happened.

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

I'm hearing this excuse on why he lost his last fight in brutal fashion was that he was weight drain at 140. The Hatton fans are saying that it was Ricky Hatton's eating habits and balooning in weight so much and then taking it down affected his performance and that he looked drain.

So was Ricky Hatton weight drain or is this an excuse by his beloved fans after they predicted an ko in favor of their man but it was the reversed?

Discuss.

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Hatton groupies are some of the biggest idiots around. The only bigger idiots out there are the ones who actually believe what they say. Some think he can actually return and be champion at 140 again. What does that tell you?

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He is really 122 and needs pies chips and beer to make 140 :spongebob:

I think some people confuse offering a reason for his defeat as making an excuse. I am a Hatton fan but was straight up in praising Pac for doing the job. Ricky tries to be one of the lads and be 'normal' but doesn't realise that he simply can't.

Was he weight drained, maybe, regardless of that he didn't last long enough for it to be an issue as someone else has stated. There may have been to odd person trying to ecuse Hatton but I think even most of his fans on here were simply critical of him. In the end it wasn't a weight issue that got him it was simply not being able to change his ways in the ring.

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Originally Posted by generalbulldog

I'm hearing this excuse on why he lost his last fight in brutal fashion was that he was weight drain at 140. The Hatton fans are saying that it was Ricky Hatton's eating habits and balooning in weight so much and then taking it down affected his performance and that he looked drain.

So was Ricky Hatton weight drain or is this an excuse by his beloved fans after they predicted an ko in favor of their man but it was the reversed?

Discuss.

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Hatton groupies are some of the biggest idiots around. The only bigger idiots out there are the ones who actually believe what they say. Some think he can actually return and be champion at 140 again. What does that tell you?

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I know, stupid isn't it. I read some fan say Casamayor still had it in him to school Edwin Valero. Some fans are just blinded by the past that they lose touch with reality. ;D

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School Valero? Impossible. The mans resume speaks for itself. Just look at all the top fighters he's beaten

His lifestyle definitely didnt help his training camps. But in this case he could of had the perfect training camp and the perfect conditioning and he still would of lost exactly like he did. Why? Because ever since the tszyu win, hatton never really showed that he could implement a gameplan that didnt involve going face first. He would always get the macho thing going and try and throw his weight around, pac was prepared for that and knocked him the fuck out. Fighting with emotion is good but to the point where it takes over your brain is bad and thats what hatton was.

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Well... whether Hatton was weight drained or not one thing is certain:
He shouldn't have been.

Because the British public are such mugs, his inability to act like an elite athlete (and his team's encouragement of him to act the way he did) might have won him lots of fans but it also stopped him from properly reaching his potential.

Honestly... the Mayweathers and Pacquios of the world don't give a fuck if you like to drink 12 pints and play darts with the lads down the pub. As far as his team were concerned though I'm sure making money/fans was a pretty big priority.

There was a program on around Christmas time about Hatton's life. I thought it would be interesting to watch his early amateur/gym footage etc... because despite having rants like this I do like the guy. I had to stop watching it though... his fucking dad going on about how 'normal' Ricky is was nauseating... could you possibly lay it on any fucking thicker mate?

Does his team (and the people stupid enough to buy into the image they were PUSHING) think that he is the only world level boxer out there who wouldn't rather be doing 'normal' things like chilling with his mates.

Do other boxers ride penny farthings around whilst throwing trouts at the public or something? What exactly makes Hatton more 'normal' than someone like Joe Calzaghe?

if he'd taken proper care (or even just tried a little outside of training camp, as opposed to not at all) of himself then he probably wouldn't be too far removed from the physicality he had when he fought Tyszu... and who knows if graham and hatton hadn't start to buy into their own hype that he could walk through a brick wall then maybe he would have been less undeveloped and a bit more refined when he needed to be.

Spending close to 100% of his camp getting fight fit would have been a lot better than spending 50% of his training camp shifting tens of pounds of dead weight and the other 50% getting fight fit.

Obviously he can live his life however he wants to bit is pisses me off to see what was a lot of god given ability go to relative waste.
Don't think he was weight drained, he just ruined himself and failed to step up his game/lifestyle when his level of opposition went up, not saying if he had he was a cert to beat these guys... I just know he could have been better.

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Used to be a huge Hatton fan til soon after Tzsyu when this ridicilous 'man of the people' marketing started to go over board.

Elite boxers are blessed physically and MENTALLY, while he had the strength and enigine to be a a 140 great, he just didn't have the ring smarts and understanding to go any further, wether he'd had Futch,Roach Steward in his corner, it would always be his undoing. Rather than preparing for his opponents best weapons, he chose to believe that he had the natural attributes to negate it, confidence is one thing but ignorance is another.

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Originally Posted by AdamGB

Well... whether Hatton was weight drained or not one thing is certain:
He shouldn't have been.

Because the British public are such mugs, his inability to act like an elite athlete (and his team's encouragement of him to act the way he did) might have won him lots of fans but it also stopped him from properly reaching his potential.

Honestly... the Mayweathers and Pacquios of the world don't give a fuck if you like to drink 12 pints and play darts with the lads down the pub. As far as his team were concerned though I'm sure making money/fans was a pretty big priority.

There was a program on around Christmas time about Hatton's life. I thought it would be interesting to watch his early amateur/gym footage etc... because despite having rants like this I do like the guy. I had to stop watching it though... his fucking dad going on about how 'normal' Ricky is was nauseating... could you possibly lay it on any fucking thicker mate?

Does his team (and the people stupid enough to buy into the image they were PUSHING) think that he is the only world level boxer out there who wouldn't rather be doing 'normal' things like chilling with his mates.

Do other boxers ride penny farthings around whilst throwing trouts at the public or something? What exactly makes Hatton more 'normal' than someone like Joe Calzaghe?

if he'd taken proper care (or even just tried a little outside of training camp, as opposed to not at all) of himself then he probably wouldn't be too far removed from the physicality he had when he fought Tyszu... and who knows if graham and hatton hadn't start to buy into their own hype that he could walk through a brick wall then maybe he would have been less undeveloped and a bit more refined when he needed to be.

Spending close to 100% of his camp getting fight fit would have been a lot better than spending 50% of his training camp shifting tens of pounds of dead weight and the other 50% getting fight fit.

Obviously he can live his life however he wants to bit is pisses me off to see what was a lot of god given ability go to relative waste.
Don't think he was weight drained, he just ruined himself and failed to step up his game/lifestyle when his level of opposition went up, not saying if he had he was a cert to beat these guys... I just know he could have been better.

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Used to be a huge Hatton fan til soon after Tzsyu when this ridicilous 'man of the people' marketing started to go over board.

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yeah... how can you be humble if you brag about being humble? :rolleyes: ;)