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Arum " outside the ring he shoots up cars and shit like that he entertains " - on floyd mayweather jr
Arum " they are rolling around on the ground like homosexuals " - on mma(ufc)
lmao I can't decided which quote is the highlight of this video. ;D
Well, Floyd and Arum had a very bad split so thats expected. But with MMA. Rolling around like homosexuals??? I for one don't know what homosexuals roll around like maybe he knows what he is talking about. But as far as the MMA part... he is just ignorant. How many fights has Arum won? He is probably 0-0. He is not and has never been a fighter so its laughable for him to put it down like he is some kind of expert in the fight game. He needs to understand what he is and is qualified in enough to make such a harsh statement. Maybe Arum has enough experience in the gay field to speak on that but he has zero experience in the fight field so let the fighters fight and the promoters promote.
LOL... Arum may be an old fool but what he said about Mayweather was pure truth
Arum is full of shit! that hole interview was borderline racist :o Im not a skin head and i watch the ufc as do all of my friends who have hair and not tattoo's!
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Originally Posted by blegit
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WOW, that was funny, Bob started laughing at a point and so did I!
Don't get me wrong here, I'm not defending the guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by blegit
He may not be politically correct, but he is an expert promoter with more years in boxing that a lot of posters combined. The MMA is his competition and as a promoter of boxing he's going to say things that put down the MMA and promote boxing. He may sound like an "oof" but behind that verbal clumsiness is a multi-millionaire that brings us great fights.
I have to admit what he says is true. There are no long term fighters or champions, no true famous world reknown personalities, No racial legions of fans like Mexicans, Puerto Ricans, Irish, Filipinos that are crazy about the sport or a specific fighter. It's basically entertainment for all the Hulksters that have grown up. Do you really envision a MMA hall of fame ? It is nothing more that WWF gone Wild ..........Quote:
Originally Posted by fan johnnyDon't get me wrong here, I'm not defending the guy.Quote:
Originally Posted by blegit
He may not be politically correct, but he is an expert promoter with more years in boxing that a lot of posters combined. The MMA is his competition and as a promoter of boxing he's going to say things that put down the MMA and promote boxing. He may sound like an "oof" but behind that verbal clumsiness is a multi-millionaire that brings us great fights.
Arum doesnt strike me as the gay type. And it doesn't take a genius to draw a gay comparison when a man is mounting another man.Quote:
Originally Posted by blegit
I liked Arum's rant. Good, colorful commentary.
daaaaaaaaamn Arum came off as racist as ever lol "it's just a bunch of skin head white trash" lol "i know the Mexicans, Filipinos, and Blacks aren't buying this garbage"
And that's why the British suck at MMAQuote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfan
I heard rumours that England didn't have white people anymore, but I guess this confirms it.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleAnd that's why the British suck at MMAQuote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfan
WatchQuote:
Originally Posted by cleveland steamer
Mayweather-Burton
Mayweather-Ndou
Mayweather-Sosa
Mayweather-Chavez
Mayweather-G. Hernandez
Mayweather-Corley
Floyd isn't a pussy, and when he isn't fighting somebody way bigger than him, he knows how to throw down.
im a skinhead with ta2s so I guess Arum was right there.Quote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfan
I think he was making a decent point about Floyd not being an entertainer but went OTT dissing MMA
I never underestimate Arum's ability to sound like an ignorant bigot.
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Originally Posted by LyleAnd that's why the British suck at MMAQuote:
Originally Posted by mattboxingfan
You don't follow MMA do you. In the USA vs UK Ultimate Fightier MMA show and tournament the UK obliterated the US. So apparently they DONT suck.
You just made my point right there. If wins by running around the ring against the much smaller Marquez and doesnt knock him out I dont think there will be too many people left who will fall for his "self hype" and not buy his fights anymore. I dont care how good his skills are if I fall asleep during his fights, which I did when he fought Oscar. Leave that kind of shit off PPV.Quote:
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Oh really?Quote:
Originally Posted by Majesty
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I8q32TVHgpY
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That's one match. When the US faced the UK, they really got mangled, no offense to the US, most of my favorite MMA and boxers fighters come from over here but halas, in the duel US-UK, the US got steamrolled and got teach the notion of togetherness/team spirit.Quote:
Originally Posted by Lyle
Bisping was the one hope for the Brits to be a "big time fighter" and he got flattened. One fight, but a meaningful one, unlike anything that happens in TUF
I don't think that Arum was 100% spot on about MMA but he did put out a few home truths there... no doubt about it. ;D
That video was hilarious. "A bunch of homosexuals rolling around". LOL
As above that was soooooooo funny!!!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RbyKZoiyriM
the Roy Jones of today still whips his ass, dumbass can't even do the Ali shuffle without getting pegged in the face lol
Ha ha ha. The idiot MMA/UFC fanboys on that video's comment sections thinks that Silva would kill Roy Jones in a boxing match because of the "pwnage skills Silva has"
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Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
hahaha! i didn't watch it, but Arum is a bad ass for saying that! love the guy lol ;D
UFC is just medicore-athletic hardass-wanna be white guys who wrestled in college, roofied girls, and have won a few bar fights. Blind aggression will win that shet 40% of the time. Blind aggression is almost as good as skill in that joke league. I put mma with golf, ping pong, and bowling. not a real sport.
every so often i get into a mma match when I drink too much. actually it's more exciting when i do it. seating room only ;D
You have never watched MMA nor do you have any idea about it apparently :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortez The KillerQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
hahaha! i didn't watch it, but Arum is a bad ass for saying that! love the guy lol ;D
UFC is just medicore-athletic hardass-wanna be white guys who wrestled in college, roofied girls, and have won a few bar fights. Blind aggression will win that shet 40% of the time. Blind aggression is almost as good as skill in that joke league. I put mma with golf, ping pong, and bowling. not a real sport.
every so often i get into a mma match when I drink too much. actually it's more exciting when i do it. seating room only ;D
Further stabbing home the point Bob Arum knows nothing about MMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
A lot of MMA stars train in gyms and most of them even train with professional boxers in preparations.
How quickly he forgets Diego "Nightmare" Sanchez who trained with his former protege Oscar De La Hoya. Oscar went as so far as to call him the "Next Great". Oh how Bob Arum forgets. Bob Arum must also forget Rampage Jackson who is "black" and whom has a huge following in the US and in Japan. BJ Penn who is Hawaiian and known as one of the best p4p in his weight division that even despite being a lightweight has gone up to heavyweight and because of his jujitsu skills pulled off a few wins. Oh and Anderson Silva, who is widely considered number 1 p4p in general who also has a huge following in Japan, the US and Brazil.
So the fact Bob Arum makes such a close minded statement shows he knows absolutely nothing about MMA or its stars and is just talking out of his ass for the close minded numb nuts close minded enough to believe him :) But all would be forgotten if Bob Arum could make a quick buck off of an MMA fighter he would be praising MMA. The only reason Bob Arum talks out of his ass on these things is because he can't make money off of it currently. Let's not forget how he praises Oscar when Oscar is signed with him, and when Oscar left he had nothing but negativity. Bob Arum barks to the moon only when its green. So I barely take anything he says seriously ;) Yes Antonio Margarito got suspended because he was a Mexican Boy translation: fuck!! this suspension is gonna lose me money.... makes all the sense in the world Bob. Don't know why anyone takes anything this idiot says seriously :)
HAHAHahahaha... you said it. those days are loooong gone though my friend. If everyone had known he'd fight like a pussy after superfeatherweight, we'd never bought fights! DUH! (and you forgot the super-shot Corrales-Mayweather fight)Quote:
Originally Posted by TaethWatchQuote:
Originally Posted by cleveland steamer
Mayweather-Burton
Mayweather-Ndou
Mayweather-Sosa
Mayweather-Chavez
Mayweather-G. Hernandez
Mayweather-Corley
Floyd isn't a pussy, and when he isn't fighting somebody way bigger than him, he knows how to throw down.
P4P fighters don't have weight divisions. That's the point. Sorry, not picking on you, jsut saying.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyYou have never watched MMA nor do you have any idea about it apparently :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortez The KillerQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
hahaha! i didn't watch it, but Arum is a bad ass for saying that! love the guy lol ;D
UFC is just medicore-athletic hardass-wanna be white guys who wrestled in college, roofied girls, and have won a few bar fights. Blind aggression will win that shet 40% of the time. Blind aggression is almost as good as skill in that joke league. I put mma with golf, ping pong, and bowling. not a real sport.
every so often i get into a mma match when I drink too much. actually it's more exciting when i do it. seating room only ;D
Further stabbing home the point Bob Arum knows nothing about MMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
A lot of MMA stars train in gyms and most of them even train with professional boxers in preparations.
How quickly he forgets Diego "Nightmare" Sanchez who trained with his former protege Oscar De La Hoya. Oscar went as so far as to call him the "Next Great". Oh how Bob Arum forgets. Bob Arum must also forget Rampage Jackson who is "black" and whom has a huge following in the US and in Japan. BJ Penn who is Hawaiian and known as one of the best p4p in his weight division that even despite being a lightweight has gone up to heavyweight and because of his jujitsu skills pulled off a few wins. Oh and Anderson Silva, who is widely considered number 1 p4p in general who also has a huge following in Japan, the US and Brazil.
So the fact Bob Arum makes such a close minded statement shows he knows absolutely nothing about MMA or its stars and is just talking out of his ass for the close minded numb nuts close minded enough to believe him :) But all would be forgotten if Bob Arum could make a quick buck off of an MMA fighter he would be praising MMA. The only reason Bob Arum talks out of his ass on these things is because he can't make money off of it currently. Let's not forget how he praises Oscar when Oscar is signed with him, and when Oscar left he had nothing but negativity. Bob Arum barks to the moon only when its green. So I barely take anything he says seriously ;) Yes Antonio Margarito got suspended because he was a Mexican Boy translation: fuck!! this suspension is gonna lose me money.... makes all the sense in the world Bob. Don't know why anyone takes anything this idiot says seriously :)
But in all seriousness, Arum has a few valid points. There are a lot of fights won on sheer aggression. How the hell does Griffin beat Rampage? I think the whole sport is flawed because there are too many easy ways out of fights/fighting.
I guess you have to figure out what you like to see. A man without a match (mayweather), a man who always has contention (Gatti), a man who wins on luck (Griffin, Mayorga). Conditioning is really big in MMA, which I think he wrongfully takes away from them... There's so muc more I could say but Ill leave it at that.
I think I've some desperate moments in my life. I've gotten low before. I usually don't remember it cleary when I wake up.Quote:
Originally Posted by MajestyYou have never watched MMA nor do you have any idea about it apparently :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortez The KillerQuote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
hahaha! i didn't watch it, but Arum is a bad ass for saying that! love the guy lol ;D
UFC is just medicore-athletic hardass-wanna be white guys who wrestled in college, roofied girls, and have won a few bar fights. Blind aggression will win that shet 40% of the time. Blind aggression is almost as good as skill in that joke league. I put mma with golf, ping pong, and bowling. not a real sport.
every so often i get into a mma match when I drink too much. actually it's more exciting when i do it. seating room only ;D
Further stabbing home the point Bob Arum knows nothing about MMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
A lot of MMA stars train in gyms and most of them even train with professional boxers in preparations.
How quickly he forgets Diego "Nightmare" Sanchez who trained with his former protege Oscar De La Hoya. Oscar went as so far as to call him the "Next Great". Oh how Bob Arum forgets. Bob Arum must also forget Rampage Jackson who is "black" and whom has a huge following in the US and in Japan. BJ Penn who is Hawaiian and known as one of the best p4p in his weight division that even despite being a lightweight has gone up to heavyweight and because of his jujitsu skills pulled off a few wins. Oh and Anderson Silva, who is widely considered number 1 p4p in general who also has a huge following in Japan, the US and Brazil.
So the fact Bob Arum makes such a close minded statement shows he knows absolutely nothing about MMA or its stars and is just talking out of his ass for the close minded numb nuts close minded enough to believe him :) But all would be forgotten if Bob Arum could make a quick buck off of an MMA fighter he would be praising MMA. The only reason Bob Arum talks out of his ass on these things is because he can't make money off of it currently. Let's not forget how he praises Oscar when Oscar is signed with him, and when Oscar left he had nothing but negativity. Bob Arum barks to the moon only when its green. So I barely take anything he says seriously ;) Yes Antonio Margarito got suspended because he was a Mexican Boy translation: fuck!! this suspension is gonna lose me money.... makes all the sense in the world Bob. Don't know why anyone takes anything this idiot says seriously :)
And at times in those moments, I stoop down. I've watched mma with co-workers. I even enjoyed it a littlle. Kind of like that night at MGM when I hadn't slept for 4 days, and i bought $600 of "cocaine" and I use parentheses because apparently the fuking yak I buy in vegas is worse than here in pittsburgh, which mean one of two things: pittsburgh snow is great, or more likely, the korean guy with tattoos who i thought looked really cool and when he approaches and i put out mucho dinero at the 3-6 nl table is trying to sell you bunk yak.
And that was my trip.
I had an std after. which really sucked because i had a research-psych position at Pitt (solid respectable university) and thenI was done and than vegas w two good friends and my health insurance expired by the time i sent tot the docter when i know i haad shit down there and I had to pay $65 cash and dude was like "go to CVS, you can get shit for that over the counter"
fyi, i have to drop this. When mma fighters try to "box" or fight stand-up it's embarrassing. For them. But I think they don't even notice how embarrassed they are because they are cut on steroids (cycle off 30 before fight) and creatine and AAKG (which is what makes there veins stick out)
Ufc is more about appearance and making 14 kids think it's coo. any "adult" that thinks they like that shit is semi-autistic.
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you know at first i thought those ufc guy were just thugs but i watched a programme that scientists taking reports on there power & it was scary there power was so much higher than any other martial artists. the scientist made them do some of the tests again as they couldnt believe the readings.
Yes they do. To be p4p you are either dominating your division or divisions. That's how you get the p4p moniker imo.Quote:
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Originally Posted by MajestyYou have never watched MMA nor do you have any idea about it apparently :)Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortez The Killer
Further stabbing home the point Bob Arum knows nothing about MMA.Quote:
Originally Posted by ElTerribleMorales
A lot of MMA stars train in gyms and most of them even train with professional boxers in preparations.
How quickly he forgets Diego "Nightmare" Sanchez who trained with his former protege Oscar De La Hoya. Oscar went as so far as to call him the "Next Great". Oh how Bob Arum forgets. Bob Arum must also forget Rampage Jackson who is "black" and whom has a huge following in the US and in Japan. BJ Penn who is Hawaiian and known as one of the best p4p in his weight division that even despite being a lightweight has gone up to heavyweight and because of his jujitsu skills pulled off a few wins. Oh and Anderson Silva, who is widely considered number 1 p4p in general who also has a huge following in Japan, the US and Brazil.
So the fact Bob Arum makes such a close minded statement shows he knows absolutely nothing about MMA or its stars and is just talking out of his ass for the close minded numb nuts close minded enough to believe him :) But all would be forgotten if Bob Arum could make a quick buck off of an MMA fighter he would be praising MMA. The only reason Bob Arum talks out of his ass on these things is because he can't make money off of it currently. Let's not forget how he praises Oscar when Oscar is signed with him, and when Oscar left he had nothing but negativity. Bob Arum barks to the moon only when its green. So I barely take anything he says seriously ;) Yes Antonio Margarito got suspended because he was a Mexican Boy translation: fuck!! this suspension is gonna lose me money.... makes all the sense in the world Bob. Don't know why anyone takes anything this idiot says seriously :)
P4P fighters don't have weight divisions. That's the point. Sorry, not picking on you, jsut saying.
But in all seriousness, Arum has a few valid points. There are a lot of fights won on sheer aggression. How the hell does Griffin beat Rampage? I think the whole sport is flawed because there are too many easy ways out of fights/fighting.
I guess you have to figure out what you like to see. A man without a match (mayweather), a man who always has contention (Gatti), a man who wins on luck (Griffin, Mayorga). Conditioning is really big in MMA, which I think he wrongfully takes away from them... There's so muc more I could say but Ill leave it at that.
And Griffin beat Rampage by using his range and his distance and setting him up with leg kicks. He actually fought a very smart fight, he tried going toe to toe and got dropped in the first round. Afterwards he started fighting smart using his leg kicks and his size he basically outboxed Rampage's aggression in a manner of saying.
And Forrest against Anderson Silva sorta reminded me of Pacquiao vs Hatton. Griffin went in there with really no clue how he was gonna beat Silva so he tried a gameplan and when it didnt work he tried slugging and that didn't work and was his downfall. He found out Silva could hurt him and hurt him bad and he never recovered. He was already "out" before Silva stopped him with the walk away jab, Griffins legs were already gone, anything could have put him down at that point.
For the most part I agree, but every once in a while whether out of real training or out of blind ass luck you see someone do something that any boxer would do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortez The Killer
I just see it as a totally different entity outside of boxing, I can watch it, and appreciate the skill involved but I have nothing invested in the majority of MMA fighters....Machida, Silva, and GSP are good classy guys, they'll never beat any top boxer in boxing, but the same can be said about any top boxer who fights them in MMA.
I like how i've been here a while; and Lyle is the only one who takes me seriously. Maybe not seriously; but at least at face value.Quote:
Originally Posted by LyleFor the most part I agree, but every once in a while whether out of real training or out of blind ass luck you see someone do something that any boxer would do.Quote:
Originally Posted by Cortez The Killer
I just see it as a totally different entity outside of boxing, I can watch it, and appreciate the skill involved but I have nothing invested in the majority of MMA fighters....Machida, Silva, and GSP are good classy guys, they'll never beat any top boxer in boxing, but the same can be said about any top boxer who fights them in MMA.
Even when i'm between jobs and have been drinking since 2 pm on Monday. Don't judge me.
But to respond to your response my friend, one only must watch Sanchez- Stevenson. It is truly the Hagler-Hearns of MMA. Truly a classic. i've killed fifths of vodka and still box better than that.
If Hagler and Hearns had no skills, did performance-enchanching drugs that made them slow and gave them physically awkward movements, and seriously licked my nut sack at fighting; than they would be widely popular UFC fighters.excuse my français :o
Whoever hasn;'t seen it, I want to reiterate: Sanchez- Stevenson.
Tis' truly an mma classic.